Any insight on Instrument Cluster compatibility - will a 2013 cluster work on a 2015?

[Aviator19xx]

I am looking at potentially having to replace the instrument cluster on my 2015 Spyder RTL. I have found a new/old stock 2013 instrument cluster, p/n 7100033940. The part numbers for the cluster on my 2015 are 710003944 (original according to the parts manual) replaced by 710005891. I've tried researching the 2013 part number to see if it would interchange with the one on my 2015. But no luck.

Does anyone have insight on whether the 2013 instrument cluster would be compatible with my 2015 model? Any help whatsoever will be greatly appreciated.

 

[CopperSpyder]

the 2013 spyder has a 998 engine with a 5 speed transmission, the 2015 has a 1330 engine with a 6 speed transmission. So software will be different and gears in speedo if any, I'm just guessing here.

 

[BertRemington]

To answer your question directly, apparently not, probably for CopperSpyder's reasons.

This is not for the weak-kneed but we're talking $1,300 here. Start at:

https://www.canamseadooskidooparts....f870022084623d6c/electrical-system-front-view

You already have the part# but start there anyway. Now back up a bit higher in the tree until you reach a screen that allows you to enter that part number. You will get a compatibility list (four items as I recall). There will be a Where Used at the end of each one. Explore each and every Where Used because they will return different results. My quick look says something in the 2014-2018 range. Be careful with F3 - their final drives are often 89T. You will probably need a BUDS firmware download and reset. Best wishes.

 

[Aviator19xx]

the 2013 spyder has a 998 engine with a 5 speed transmission, the 2015 has a 1330 engine with a 6 speed transmission. So software will be different and gears in speedo if any, I'm just guessing here.

I forgot about that. Gosh I’m glad you mentioned that. Thanks very much.

To answer your question directly, apparently not, probably for CopperSpyder's reasons.

This is not for the weak-kneed but we're talking $1,300 here. Start at:

https://www.canamseadooskidooparts....f870022084623d6c/electrical-system-front-view

You already have the part# but start there anyway. Now back up a bit higher in the tree until you reach a screen that allows you to enter that part number. You will get a compatibility list (four items as I recall). There will be a Where Used at the end of each one. Explore each and every Where Used because they will return different results. My quick look says something in the 2014-2018 range. Be careful with F3 - their final drives are often 89T. You will probably need a BUDS firmware download and reset. Best wishes.

Thank you for that info. I’m going to check that out. Much appreciated.

 

[Aviator19xx]

I forgot about that. Gosh I’m glad you mentioned that. Thanks very much.



Thank you for that info. I’m going to check that out. Much appreciated.

First a big thank you to everyone who offered their help to solve my problem. BUDS, was showing me two faults; P0571 and P1571, both coming from the WPM indicating an HBS (parking brake light switch) failure and deactivation failure. I'd clear the faults and rewrite the file back to the bike. But each time I'd activate or deactivate the parking brake, both faults would reoccur. I contacted Powersport-Diag tech support by chat. The tech said he elevated the problem to the next level and I got a support ticket emailed to me. I was suppose to be contacted within 24 hours by email. Yeah, right. What a joke. I even phoned them! Got a live person in Finland. He too said he would escalate the problem and I would be contacted within 24 hours. I waited 3 days and got absolutely ZERO help from Powersports-Diag support (yes, literally zero help. No further communications...period), I decided to start replacing the key components of the parking brake system, one by one in an effort to fix this problem. I ordered a new parking brake light switch, parking brake motor and the WPM module. The last item would have been the cluster, which I did not order. When the parking brake motor arrived, I replaced it first and adjusted the parking brake cable after the motor was installed. The parking brake switch was still testing good as I could turn on the bike and press the roller lever on the switch with the parking brake set and the red light on the cluster would go on/off with each movement of the switch roller arm. To my pleasant surprise, after replacing the parking brake motor, BINGO, IT WORKED normally. The parking brake engages and disengages with each depression of the parking brake switch on the console and the red light on the cluster goes on, then off.

Don't ask me why the motor fixed it because after I cleaned the armature and brushes on the old motor, it was working perfectly. But quite honestly, I could care less why. It works! And my bike is fixed finally. I'll keep my fingers crossed. For sure, I am no longer a neophyte on the upside of the learning curve about the parking brake system on the Spyder.

 

[BertRemington]

WRT PBM, here's my hypothesis. The drive is a high-ratio combination of a metal worm gear and plastic (nylon?) worm wheel. The drive operates properly with light loads but binds under heavy loads, which the WPM detects and releases the power relays (there are two). The detection may be current (too high) or time (too long). The binding could be caused by damage to the worm wheel or to wear on housing at the ends of the worm gear, in both cases resulting in a mismatch of the mesh that is critical to gear operation. I believe certain years were subject to early PBM failures.

 

[Aviator19xx]

WRT PBM, here's my hypothesis. The drive is a high-ratio combination of a metal worm gear and plastic (nylon?) worm wheel. The drive operates properly with light loads but binds under heavy loads, which the WPM detects and releases the power relays (there are two). The detection may be current (too high) or time (too long). The binding could be caused by damage to the worm wheel or to wear on housing at the ends of the worm gear, in both cases resulting in a mismatch of the mesh that is critical to gear operation. I believe certain years were subject to early PBM failures.

Now THAT is brilliant! Thank you for that.