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So that happened. Passed out from the heat.

Geesh. Glad it didn't happen while you were riding!
Be careful out there, folks. That heat can sneak up on you.
Just a little note...start hydrating before you think you need it.
Water is great, but you also need to replace electrolytes.
Hopefully, you get a good deal on your next ride. Goldwings are lovely.

this happened solely on 2 things.

1- I spent 90 minutes in the gym/ 40 minutes cardio an 50 minutes lifting.

2- showered came up guzzled 60 Oz water Gatorade combo.

went out side gathered up tools place jack got up moved jack rinse repeat about 7 times mind you heat index was already 110°

now I'm light headed and go to lay on the ground and made it in record time BOOM. the rest is history. OH and I walk to the gym it's 2.25 miles one way.

Current weather is

due point | 77°
97 °F
LIKE 114°

Partly Cloudy

N7
 
The regret started on the ride home from the dealer when I could barley keep it in my lane, then the tire every 8K lack of adjustability on just about every aspect of the trike from floor boards to handle bars and grips and brake pedal, I wont even get into joke of an information center and the BRP APP, then toss in the crap dealer net work for me it's just a boiling cauldron of dismay over my decision to buy into allure of a spYder.

Even the after market is lacking, it's getting there but has a long long long way to go before it catches up with the likes of Harley/Honda/Kawasaki/Yamaha/BMW/Suzuki.

I share your thoughts. My 2014 RTL was sold one week after the warranty expired for the same reasons you stated here. I went back to riding my 2 wheel Goldwing for one season. After being on 3 for a few years, I found my skill level, balance, strength, etc. was not what I remembered. I was cautious enough to not crash or dump the bike. But I just wasn't as comfortable as I thought I should be. So after a LOT of research and soul searching, I became the new owner of a Goldwing/California Sidecar Trike. For me, It was the right move at a time when I was not ready to give up riding. I know there are some in the Spyder world who say a traditional trike is not nearly as stable as a Spyder. And maybe some aren't. But I don't share that opinion. My CSC with IRS is every bit as stable as my Spyder was. In fact, I am MORE comfortable and confident in aggressive riding than I EVER was on my Spyder. So, after over 40 years riding 2 and 3 wheels, I would never go back to a Spyder or 2 wheeler. Something to think about. Good luck in whatever you do...... Jim
 
10k in 9 months of ownership and my tire is down to the cord.

Did the sway bar last month.
Slice, was that the 2022's stock Kenda tire that bared itself that quickly? 10k miles to cords is what each of my original Kenda rear tires did, my General Altimax on my 13 still looked new after 24k. (PS, I'm a heavy 260lbs so expect to wear rear tires a bit faster than most healthy folks....)
 
Slice, was that the 2022's stock Kenda tire that bared itself that quickly? 10k miles to cords is what each of my original Kenda rear tires did, my General Altimax on my 13 still looked new after 24k. (PS, I'm a heavy 260lbs so expect to wear rear tires a bit faster than most healthy folks....)

Yep stock tire and I weigh in at 247 Lbs.
 
It is not just the heat. You have to be acclimatized to the heat or it will get you. I was born in Florida. Never had a problem with the heat. Only time I ever left Florida, for any amount of time was for military service, and I was in places hotter than here most of the time. Even though I have always lived here, I know I am a lot older now, and I slow down in the hottest months of the summer. Slowed down so much today, they we fired up the grill at noon, and baked tortilla pizzas on a big, flat cast iron griddle, with charcoal. Then I took a nap. Works for me. You got to stay hydrated, got to replace the salt you lose, and got to slow down when it gets up in the triple digits. The middle of June, until the middle of August, is the hottest time here. Some "so-called" expert, or some health reporter, working in an air conditioned office, is going to tell you you don't need the extra salt intake when you sweat a lot. I don't believe them. Your body will know you need more salt.
 
Passed out fromm heat.

Slice, sorry to hear of your troubles. That is a fine looking Wing, with a honda trained mechanic with his own shop near by seems difficult to be a wrong decision. You are alway welcome here, you have some interesting perspectives, keep the shinny side up. Are you going to trade your Spyder or sell it outright? Sounds like a great bike for a second buyer.

Al in Kazoo
 
One last thought about your head injury...... Be very careful for the next week or two. A concussion can come up and bite you several days after a blow to the head. I had one many years ago that caused me issues several days after conking my head on a car door jamb. I was sitting down and the room started spinning really bad. It was so bad I could hardly make my way to the bathroom where I then puked my guts out. Use caution......
 
Slice, sorry to hear of your troubles. That is a fine looking Wing, with a honda trained mechanic with his own shop near by seems difficult to be a wrong decision. You are alway welcome here, you have some interesting perspectives, keep the shinny side up. Are you going to trade your Spyder or sell it outright? Sounds like a great bike for a second buyer.

Al in Kazoo

Going to try and trade it so I don't have to deal with people that will want it for $20- and a case of beer.
 
One last thought about your head injury...... Be very careful for the next week or two. A concussion can come up and bite you several days after a blow to the head. I had one many years ago that caused me issues several days after conking my head on a car door jamb. I was sitting down and the room started spinning really bad. It was so bad I could hardly make my way to the bathroom where I then puked my guts out. Use caution......

This was certainly not my first head shot, I have put myself on hold for 48 hours.

Been there done that.
 
Sorry to hear and glad you're ok.

Good luck Slice, I'd say that you gave the Spyder a fair chance.
The Honda is a nice bike also. Maybe when the time comes you can have a trike kit installed on it.
 
Well big guy I hope you have a lift for that two wheeler because just from talking to you and seeing what your writing here you will still work on that bike, and you will have to get on the ground if you can't lift it! So get yourself some pillows to rest your noggin on and get your two-wheeler:2thumbs: back! Good luck
 
You might consider buying an Apple Watch to work with an Iphone. It has a feature where if you suddenly fall, as from fainting from the heat, it can alert those you designate as emergency contacts. A relative of mine suddenly collapsed a few months ago and her Apple Watch summoned emergency responders as well as informed her son of the incident. Can be a valuable resource if living alone and doing physical work in a hot environment.

Going from 3 back to 2 wheels seems odd to me, but if it works for you then all is good. I was a 2 wheel rider for 35+ years when at 78 I had two tipovers with my Goldwing within a short period of time. In both cases I needed help in getting the bike upright again. At the same time of these incidents, my wife expressed her growing concern about riding with me. The riding was okay, it was the stopping safely that had her concerned. I ended up trading in that Goldwing for a new RT and have not regretted this decision in the two years since. I find that I don't miss the leaning in curves as much as I thought I would, and that loss is more than compensated by the inherent stability of the Spyder, especially when coming to a stop on other than pristine road surfaces. Just the other day I was out for a nice ride when suddenly the smooth asphalt road turned to soft gravel. I was caught by surprise but it was of no concern. Had I been on the Goldwing, and especially if I had been riding two up, that change of road surface could have been very disturbing and challenging. But with the Spyder it was nothing at all to be worried about, other than slowing down a bit. And just a few weeks back I took a demo ride on a new Harley trike. The ride was okay but it made me even more convinced of the superiority of having two wheels in front rather than two wheels in back.
 
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You might consider buying an Apple Watch to work with an Iphone. It has a feature where if you suddenly fall, as from fainting from the heat, it can alert those you designate as emergency contacts. A relative of mine suddenly collapsed a few months ago and her Apple Watch summoned emergency responders as well as informed her son of the incident. Can be a valuable resource if living alone and doing physical work in a hot environment.

Going from 3 back to 2 wheels seems odd to me, but if it works for you then all is good. I was a 2 wheel rider for 35+ years when at 78 I had two tipovers with my Goldwing within a short period of time. In both cases I needed help in getting the bike upright again. At the same time of these incidents, my wife expressed her growing concern about riding with me. The riding was okay, it was the stopping safely that had her concerned. I ended up trading in that Goldwing for a new RT and have not regretted this decision in the two years since. I find that I don't miss the leaning in curves as much as I thought I would, and that loss is more than compensated by the inherent stability of the Spyder, especially when coming to a stop on other than pristine road surfaces. Just the other day I was out for a nice ride when suddenly the smooth asphalt road turned to soft gravel. I was caught by surprise but it was of no concern. Had I been on the Goldwing, and especially if I had been riding two up, that change of road surface could have been very disturbing and challenging. But with the Spyder it was nothing at all to be worried about, other than slowing down a bit. And just a few weeks back I took a demo ride on a new Harley trike. The ride was okay but it made me even more convinced of the superiority of having two wheels in front rather than two wheels in back.

I also have to chime in. Going from three to two sounds like a step backwards to me also, from a safety standpoint. I love those big bikes and have had my share of them. When I layed my Vulcan 900 down the second time, because of losing balance coming to a stop, I realized that my two wheeling days were at an end. I can still look back in my mind and see all those special bikes and the places I went over the last 50 years. I am going to stick with those memories. :bowdown:
 
I also have to chime in. Going from three to two sounds like a step backwards to me also, from a safety standpoint. I love those big bikes and have had my share of them. When I layed my Vulcan 900 down the second time, because of losing balance coming to a stop, I realized that my two wheeling days were at an end. I can still look back in my mind and see all those special bikes and the places I went over the last 50 years. I am going to stick with those memories. :bowdown:
I actually went to 3 wheels because of an accident on 2 wheels and the wife "insisted". After a couple of years I picked up another 2 wheeler to add to the stable. I still don't consider myself a seasoned rider, but I felt uncomfortable at first when I got back in 2 wheels. So I did the next best thing and sold the 2 wheeler and picked up another spyder (2012 RSS, I still had the 2014 RT at the time). After a couple of more seasons I tried another 2 wheeler and feel good on both. I might continue with both, but a spyder is staying in my toy chest. But that is just my experience .
 
Like you, I became afraid of riding a heavy 2 wheeler, but still have my 2015 Syder F3-S. Recently, I have been reading reviews of the Yamaha Xmax 300. It is lightweight and doesn't require any shifting, but is fairly expensive.
 
I came off a 96 Harley to a 2017 F3 LTD, I tried to go back to a Harley and found out I hated to shift and was spoiled not putting my feet down. As we get older (71) we know our limitations , I know I will not go back to 2 wheels. As I always say, if you feel and you can do it, DO IT. Stay safe Slice.
 
Anyone that lives alone or has a tendency to fall, or faint, should consider an Apple Watch. It has a feature which calls 911 and gives your location if it senses that you fell, and also notifies your emergency contact. Before sending out a call for help it will beep and the screen will ask you if you have fallen? If you click "no" then it does not make the call. Could be a lifesaver for someone who passes out or falls or crashes in a remote area. I've had the Apple Watch think that I have fallen twice in the last year, and each time I could click that I was OK and had not fallen, but if I had needed help the watch would have called for help without me doing a thing.
 
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