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Haze on lamp glass.

DeVille

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Hope you all can help me!

Recently got a Spyder RT-L 2016.
The lamps are hazed just above the projector lens.

Tried to use water-sanding and then polish, but it seems to be on the inside.
Have anyone got this issue before, and how to overcome it?

Is it possible to remove the lamp and disassemble so that I can polish the inside?

Spyder lamp.jpg

BR
/DeVille from Sweden.
 
Hey...

I know this is a silly question but... is there any possibility that this is water vapor condensation that is caught on the inside of the assembly?

Just asking because I have seen someone ask this questions a few times in the past for other bikes and that what it has turned out to be, though it does not look like it form the out side. It turned out that the headlight assemblies venting system was plugged up.

Tim
 
I have read about that also, but it is not water/condensation.

Are there any good place to buy new lamps, if I mess it up and break it.

/DeVille
 
I have read about that also, but it is not water/condensation.

Are there any good place to buy new lamps, if I mess it up and break it.

/DeVille

Yes you can buy NEW headlights, they will cost you about $ 600.00 a pair ..... Consider getting LED headlamps ( at least 16,000 lumens ) ..... good luck .... Mike :thumbup:
 
Aha!

The ones I have seen is $800 each..
Does anyone got a link where I can find the pair for $600 ?

/DeVille
 
Hope you all can help me!

Recently got a Spyder RT-L 2016.
The lamps are hazed just above the projector lens.

Tried to use water-sanding and then polish, but it seems to be on the inside.
Have anyone got this issue before, and how to overcome it?

Is it possible to remove the lamp and disassemble so that I can polish the inside?

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BR
/DeVille from Sweden.

DeVille, that IS on the inside, and NO, it's not condensation, it's a defect in the polycarbonate developing due to heat produced by the halogen lights behind the projector lens! :lecturef_smilie: .

That haze issue was a known problem in the earlier Spyders, even those still running the factory light globes; I don't know what years beyond 2013 were included, but I feel it was certainly 2014 and possibly as far as 2016... :dontknow: . Many of us here in Oz had those lights (which are our Lo beam headlights & likely yours too if that's an EU spec Spyder ;) ) replaced free of charge by BRP as a goodwill gesture..... You can't readily pull the lens/light assy apart to polish it out, but I'm not sure that'd work anyway - I reckon that because it's a defect in response to heat from the lamp globes, the haze/fogging permeates the entire depth of the polycarbonate! :cus:

I say that cos when I checked my lights for the haze, I noticed that my Hi beam lights also had similar haze spots, only up there they weren't where heat from the lamp shining thru projector lens would rise to like it is in your lower lamps, the hazy bits were directly in the focus spot of the light emitted thru the projector lens, sorta like the focus spot of the sun shining thru a magnifying glass - those upper hazy bits started out as maybe 30-35mm dia haze spots on the inside of the poly directly in front of the projector lens where the light beam hit the polycarbonate; but a few days later, after a very hot day (high 40's °C) that I spent ryding on heat reflecting asphalt in a Toy Run Procession at low speed with the Hi beams on for about 6 hours straight, I discovered the haze had melted the focus spot in the upper lights out from the inside, distorting the poly all the way thru & on one light, actually melting a 10-20mm dia hole right thru the poly lens!! :shocked: .

By then, I'd already been waiting about a month or so for word on when the replacement Lo beam lights would come in for the dealer to swap them over, but when I showed the tech the melted spots in the upper lights, they very quickly added the upper lights to the 'replace' order & put a hastener on it all! So both my upper and lower lamp assemblies on both sides were replaced not too long after that haze progressed into a hole!! So do carefully check your haze spots for any distortion/deterioration, and check your upper/Hi beam lights just as carefully too! :lecturef_smilie:

You might try asking your dealer if they'll start a case with BRP for you to get them replaced FoC; maybe include the info that here in Oz most lights with haze spots like those were replaced as a good will gesture because it was such a prevalent issue! :dontknow: . I really don't think it was a recall, but sooo many 'still factory spec' Spyders here in Oz suffered from this haze issue that it was pretty obviously a production problem/failure & not anything else, so they replaced them! And as soon as we got them home, most Spyder Ryders who hadn't already done so immediately swapped out the high temp halogen type lamp globes & replaced them with much cooler running LEDS! :thumbup:

Haven't had a real problem since, altho maybe now, 5+ or something years later, I'm not completely sure that there isn't a very light haze juuust starting to develop on those Lo beam lamps again?!

Good Luck! :cheers:
 
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YOU CAN “NOT” BUY NEW LEFT SIDE FOGLIGHT ASSEMBLY! They have been on back Order since last October 20th. They’re are none in North America. They were produced and the shipment that was on a semi went missing during the trucking shutdown and never appeared. I’ve got confirmation that it will be shipped for the 5th time august 26th. We’ll see. You picture is right side. They had those back in January. Just no lefts. So if you need right only replaced you’re in luck! If you want to replace both you’re going to have to wait.
 
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Thanks for all the info guys!

I have this problem on both sides, just annoying since the rest of the bike looks really good imho.

Im in Sweden, we get tops 30C here.

But I'll definetly get leds asap to not make it worse!

/DeVille.
 
Thanks for all the info guys!

I have this problem on both sides, just annoying since the rest of the bike looks really good imho.

Im in Sweden, we get tops 30C here.

But I'll definetly get leds asap to not make it worse!

/DeVille.

The LED's should run a LOT cooler than the Halogen's ..... good luck .... Mike :thumbup:
 
Hope you all can help me!

Recently got a Spyder RT-L 2016.
The lamps are hazed just above the projector lens.

Tried to use water-sanding and then polish, but it seems to be on the inside.
Have anyone got this issue before, and how to overcome it?

Is it possible to remove the lamp and disassemble so that I can polish the inside?

View attachment 197854

BR
/DeVille from Sweden.

That is plastic, not glass. Treat it the same as you would the haze on a modern automotive lens cover.
 
That is plastic, not glass. Treat it the same as you would the haze on a modern automotive lens cover.

You really should read or at least skim thru the rest of the responses before adding yours Pete! :rolleyes: That won't work, cos as I said in my earlier post/response, the haze is on the INSIDE, & it's effectively cooked into the polycarbonate cover from the inside - so nothing you do on the outside of the polycarbonate will even touch it! :lecturef_smilie:
 
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You really should read or at least skim thru the rest of the responses before adding yours Peete! :rolleyes: That won't work, cos as I said in my earlier post/response, the haze is on the INSIDE, & it's effectively cooked into the polycarbonate cover from the inside - so nothing you do on the outside of the polycarbonate will even touch it! :lecturef_smilie:

I did read them, Peter. I think my response is correct though; whether the haze is on the inside or the outside, it needs to be treated the same as if it was any automotive polycarbonate lens cover. In other words, the solution isn't unique to Spyders, I don't think, so he could widen his search a little beyond Spyders.

He did ask if there's any way to open up the housing so he could do something about the inside, and I don't know the answer to that; do you?
 
Tried to use water-sanding and then polish, but it seems to be on the inside. Is it possible to remove the lamp and disassemble so that I can polish the inside? View attachment 197854

/DeVille from Sweden.

I think this is an interesting question. I don't know the answer, but my guess is it would take cutting the clear plastic away from its base, then epoxying it back together after polishing the inside of the lens cover.
 
I did read them, Peter. I think my response is correct though; whether the haze is on the inside or the outside, it needs to be treated the same as if it was any automotive polycarbonate lenso cover. In other words, the solution isn't unique to Spyders, I don't think, so he could widen his search a little beyond Spyders.

He did ask if there's any way to open up the housing so he could do something about the inside, and I don't know the answer to that; do you?

Soo, clearly you didn't really read my earlier post after all, nor even the one you quoted?!? :banghead:

Treating it like any other automotive polycarbonate lens cover WON'T work, cos it's a defect in the polycarbonate that results in the haze ie. it's a heat induced defect/failure & the haze/fogging permeates the entire depth of the polycarbonate lens cover, from the INSIDE right thru to the OUTSIDE.... so any automotive based treatment of the SURFACE, either inside or out, or even both, is pointless! And Yes, I DO know & answered the question about opening up the housing.... it can't readily be done! :rolleyes:
 
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