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Wife’s butt falls asleep on 2021 RTL seat. Got any suggestions?
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Wmoater
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“R - Large front and back” are on dads new 2021. He used them on old series and kept them for his new spyder. The new RT are a bit bigger on driver but it fits fine slide forward a bit. Passenger R large perfect. The old series was a touch big the RT fits perfect now.
Pooch
Member
I still have and use the original Air Hawk I purchased in 2008 for my Suzuki Boulevard cruiser driver seat. It must be a Large.
It fit my 2008 Gold Wing trike driver seat fine also.
It fits my Spyder 2021 RTL driver seat just fine also.
I also purchased the Large square for the Pillion seat.
But I must say I haven't had to use it often on the Spyder - I find the seat very comfortable.
I use almost no air in them - makes them nice and cushy... also have never secured them to the seat in any way - they can't escape as long as you are sitting on them...they don't slide around either.
I do lock them up when I walk away from the bike in a public place.
It fit my 2008 Gold Wing trike driver seat fine also.
It fits my Spyder 2021 RTL driver seat just fine also.
I also purchased the Large square for the Pillion seat.
But I must say I haven't had to use it often on the Spyder - I find the seat very comfortable.
I use almost no air in them - makes them nice and cushy... also have never secured them to the seat in any way - they can't escape as long as you are sitting on them...they don't slide around either.
I do lock them up when I walk away from the bike in a public place.
Wmoater
Active member
Unscrew the rubber end (valve) blow 3-4 times max. (Yes like a beach ball or floating mattress) 3-4 Blows is way to much! Put bladder back in seat cover. Have wife sit on it literally and turn the valve letting air out. Tighten valve have her wiggle butt around. It should feel like a poopy diaper. An easy way to see if you’re raised up is use your mirror on a fixed spot with no air hawk. When the air hawk is under you, the exact point should be the exact point without the air hawk in the mirror. You should NOT be elevated off seat at all! As you swoosh your butt around the bladder should flow from one side to other but look like no air moving. It takes a few tries. Once you find the sweat spot you’ll know. In all honesty, 1/2 blow is all it takes but I had to empty my wife’s till she could find the right amount. The less air the better!
mhan
Member
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2021 Sea to Sky here.
Just returned from 3000 mi trip. Wife (76yrs) used this Walmart gel cushion on the back seat and she loves it. Some days she went 6 to 7 hrs with never a butt complaint. I don't use anything as the S2S has gel seat. I could go about 4hrs before needing a butt break.
2021 Sea to Sky here.
Just returned from 3000 mi trip. Wife (76yrs) used this Walmart gel cushion on the back seat and she loves it. Some days she went 6 to 7 hrs with never a butt complaint. I don't use anything as the S2S has gel seat. I could go about 4hrs before needing a butt break.
Well ordered air hawks for the both of us. Mine is nice and comfy. Wife said it was worse than the seat took about 10 minutes before she started to squirm around instead of 30 minutes. She said she couldn’t do it. Friend let her barrow a butt pad like mhan has in post and it is getting close to comfortable....so.... I got a new air hawk for my seat.
Wmoater
Active member
Out of curiosity, where are her foot pegs/platform set? Are her knees at a 90, over bent or almost straight? Do you have “your”-driver backrest on or off with her? It almost sounds like the legs are to high (90) and the backrest is pushing her to far back so she’s sitting straight up on the front of her cheeks. Might want to play around with the foot rests height too? Sounds dumb but my wife loves the armrest because she can use then to wiggle down into seat like a lounger and relax. Also sounds dumb but my wife doesn’t let her butt get used to the seat on long rides. She starts out with regular seat. Next fuel stop 3 hours later slaps on air hawk. Next stop she puts down a gel pad inside air hawk. Usually 10 hours is about it but I’m sure she’d switch it up again. I’m similar but only change once a day. Keep riding, she’ll figure it out. If not the saddle is to wide so she’ll need to elevate higher with a square pad. That may be why the pad feels better.
Pooch
Member
These things take almost no air to get the cushy feel. Just a little bit too much and the feel isn’t great.
You might have her start all over with squishing All the air out then add a couple of small puffs of air til it feels right.
Drwerner
New member
Craig owner of WildAss is a great guy and provides great support. His rubber bladder is very well made and sets them apart from the competition. No affiliation, jsut a fan - see more frtom them here: https://www.wild-ass.com/there-for-the-long-haul-how-our-seat-cushion-materials-work/
They are blown up by mouth and maybe what feels like half full or less. Your butt will tell you. They are not meant to be firm. They will feel spongy when you first sit on them and wonderful the longer you ride. What is cool about an air cushion is that they self adjust to everyone's different backside.
Be Safe, Be Seen,
David
Peteoz
Well-known member
Yes, that’s the first thing that Daylong do when building you a custom seat, Wmoater. They ensure your knees are slightly lower than your butt. Then they provide support to the outer thighs through wings on the side of the seat (which is effectively what Airhawk is doing with the very low pressure they recommend. If you can achieve that somehow, you are on the way to a comfy seat.
Pete
Pete
Arachnerds
Member
We had pretty uncomfortable seats on our previous Hondas so made some sheepskin covers and put 1"-2" memory foam padding underneath. Felt MUCH better! Sold the Hondas and ride the Spyder together so now they are on it instead. Still comfy. Something else to consider is if the passenger footbeds are high enough for her. Usually they are too low if she has a shorter inseam. That can make a big difference in how a person feels, because of how her thighs rest on the seat.
