BajaRon
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All Spyders have the evap canister. It is a federal, nation wide, requirement. Sorry, I do not remember the vent hose size. But 1/4" is probably in the ball park.
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Canister-Ectomy - 2008-2016 SM5/SE5
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All Spyders have the evap canister. It is a federal, nation wide, requirement. Sorry, I do not remember the vent hose size. But 1/4" is probably in the ball park.
krakum1967
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I finally did this job, kept putting it off, and that was dumb, I can run the trike in the car port now and not get gas stoned, I think part of me will miss that, but its really not good for you, and doesnt set a good example for neighborhood kids either....
Anyway, I had a fuel filter exactly like the one pictured hanging in the shop, and I have moved it to 3 different houses and shops now, its been 8 years of "I will use it someday", piad 95 cents for that thing...I finally used just it, and the extended hose. I use the filter as the joiner tube, and I ran forward, I had enough hose to vent it through the same holes as the radiator drains, but it runs way up high on the high frame way before that, not gonna get any drips there, and its forward of the engine, and goes out the tube hole for the radiator reservoir drain.
OMG, the SMELL IS GONE....its like a BB King song playing in the back ground, substitute thrill for smell.....
Thanks for this guys, its works for sure, and yep, I see the top corner thingy in the gauge now, and it filled a bit more than usual I think, I will have mileage tests later to prove it. THE SMELL IS GONE!!!!!!!
Anyway, I had a fuel filter exactly like the one pictured hanging in the shop, and I have moved it to 3 different houses and shops now, its been 8 years of "I will use it someday", piad 95 cents for that thing...I finally used just it, and the extended hose. I use the filter as the joiner tube, and I ran forward, I had enough hose to vent it through the same holes as the radiator drains, but it runs way up high on the high frame way before that, not gonna get any drips there, and its forward of the engine, and goes out the tube hole for the radiator reservoir drain.
OMG, the SMELL IS GONE....its like a BB King song playing in the back ground, substitute thrill for smell.....
Thanks for this guys, its works for sure, and yep, I see the top corner thingy in the gauge now, and it filled a bit more than usual I think, I will have mileage tests later to prove it. THE SMELL IS GONE!!!!!!!
KX5062
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I did it on my old 2008 Commiefornia edition and it was the same. And, I will add that it DID make a big difference. DO IT!
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Thank you all for this thread and comments nice to see everyone's little pieces of wisdom if not before this will be done this winter when she is put away for awhile. anybody have any warnings about the sequential led turn signals for the front fenders from sling mods that was the other thing i had in mind for this off season. thanks again
Thank you all for this thread and comments nice to see everyone's little pieces of wisdom if not before this will be done this winter when she is put away for awhile. anybody have any warnings about the sequential led turn signals for the front fenders from sling mods that was the other thing i had in mind for this off season. thanks again
AVBIZ
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Not sure about the check valve; sounds like you just need to route the gas tank vent hose higher than the tank before running to the rear of the bike.
I have my 2014 RTS done for several years now...The reason I did mine was because of excessive cranking when trying to start the engine in extremely hot weather...I think mine had a periodic purge valve problem...Since venting the gas tank to the atmosphere the hard starting in hot weather has gone away...larryd
BajaRon
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I would ask how you routed the vent hose? I'd say this is your issue. If you're getting raw gas out the end, something is wrong. You don't want a 'Check Valve'. This would defeat the purpose of the vent hose and probably cause major issues. You need to address the root problem. Done correctly, you will never have liquid come out the tube.
If your EVAP canister system is working perfectly, there is no net benefit or negative to your Spyder's function. However, if anything at all is not just right. For example, if you fill your fuel tank to the top, or if the PCV malfunctions, etc., then you can have some major negatives. Eliminating this system precludes any of the issues that you might otherwise run into. One great advantage is that you can put more fuel in the tank, giving you greater range, with zero concerns.
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Ron,
I like the greater range. Would hardly call that a side benefit. Thanks for the response.
PatrickH
Yep definitely a big plus on the V Twins.
BajaRon
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Most people do not even know that there is a small triangle that appears at the top of their fuel gauge when the tank is actually filled to the top. Typically you can get 1/2 gallon or more in the tank if you work at it a bit. If you drill a hole at into the top of the metal inlet, you can fill that last amount faster. A large, wasted air space was built into the top of the fuel tank to try and keep the evap system from getting overwhelmed with raw fuel. With the Evap cannister eliminated, so is the problem of filling your tank.
I can typically go 15-20 miles before my triangle goes away. This adds about 10% to my overall range.
Hello Ron, when you say "If you drill a hole at into the top of the metal inlet, you can fill that last amount faster.", where are you talking about drilling? Is it in the neck just below the threads for the gas cap? Or is it IN the threads? I really like how you're talking about getting this extra range (gas capacity). PatrickH
BajaRon
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There is a small slot just below the threads on the upper side of the fill tube. This is designed to vent air as you fill the tank. But it is too small. You just want to enlarge this hole to at least 1/4". If you do it with a drill, go slow and use a magnet to catch shavings. Or, some have used a strong flat blade screwdriver to widen the hole. Though you have to be careful not to deform the fill tube in the threaded area. I'll attach a picture if I get time.
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