Kumho mounted, not balanced yet

[ButterSmooth]

Today I had Vredestein Quatrac 5s mounted and balanced on the front wheel and a Kuhmo Ecsta mounted, but not balanced, on the rear. The local tire shop couldn't balance the rear, because the hub wouldn't fit on their machine.:banghead:

Two methods occurred to me: Drop balance the wheel using the axle and weights, or Ride-on. I think Ride-on is the way to go, but 30 minutes of web searches didn't find any car formula Ride-on in stock or available. I need 17oz -- anybody have a lead to some?

 

[RICZ]

I had problems with Ride-On. It would put the tire out of balance and when I got a puncture, it didn't do its job of plugging the small hole. So I went to Counteract beads - less abrasive than Dyna Beads. The Counteract beads worked very well and don't make a mess inside the tires. Ask tire people what they think of it

 

[Peter Aawen]

If your rear Kumho has been mounted properly, there's a better'n very good chance that you won't actually need any balancing done on it at all! :clap:

So give it a ryde, run it up & down thru the gears a few times, take a few corners at speed (safely if you will, please! ) and if it's not giving you any grief, then don't buy yourself trouble that's not really there, just get on and Ryde! :thumbup:

I have probably run more rear tires on my Spyder than just about anyone else here except maybe SpyderAnn & a couple of other 'high mileage' ryders, and I seriously cannot remember the last time I had any concerns re balancing my rear tires Modern tires from reputable manufacturers fitted/mounted properly on their rims & run on the rear of our Spyders/Rykers will rarely need balancing. hyea:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

If your rear Kumho has been mounted properly, there's a better'n very good chance that you won't actually need any balancing done on it at all! :clap:

So give it a ryde, run it up & down thru the gears a few times, take a few corners at speed (safely if you will, please! ) and if it's not giving you any grief, then don't buy yourself trouble that's not really there, just get on and Ryde! :thumbup:

I have probably run more rear tires on my Spyder than just about anyone else here except maybe SpyderAnn & a couple of other 'high mileage' ryders, and I seriously cannot remember the last time I had any concerns re balancing my rear tires Modern tires from reputable manufacturers fitted/mounted properly on their rims & run on the rear of our Spyders/Rykers will rarely need balancing. hyea:

:agree::agree: .... I've had 7 rear auto tires on various Spyders .... I only balanced the first one, and discovered it only needed 1/2 oz. .... The next six I didn't balance and have not noticed a vibe or wear issue .... IMHO the way the swing arm is constructed, it provides a stronger more stable fixture for the rear axel / wheel .... No one who has driven my Spyders have ever mentioned they thought something wasn't right about the rear end or said there were any vibes ..... good luck ..... Mike :thumbup:

 

[bikerchris1270]

Today I had Vredestein Quatrac 5s mounted and balanced on the front wheel and a Kuhmo Ecsta mounted, but not balanced, on the rear. The local tire shop couldn't balance the rear, because the hub wouldn't fit on their machine.:banghead:

Two methods occurred to me: Drop balance the wheel using the axle and weights, or Ride-on. I think Ride-on is the way to go, but 30 minutes of web searches didn't find any car formula Ride-on in stock or available. I need 17oz -- anybody have a lead to some?

I use Centramatic wheel balancers available from LaMonster.... takes all guess work out of the equation. They work!

 

[Gwolf]

I just used the axle on 2 jack stands and taped the weights on until it didn't roll on the rear Kumho. Peeled the paper, stuck the weights on, and it doesn't vibrate enough to notice at any speed. Been on there for about 5,000 miles and showing no wear at all. Still no vibrations. Only used about 1/2 oz of weights. Don't have any beads in the tire.

 

[MONK]

So I went to Counteract beads - less abrasive than Dyna Beads. The Counteract beads worked very well and don't make a mess inside the tires. Ask tire people what they think of it

I went to the Counteract website. All I could find for motorcycles was some sort of innertube (I guess). Is that what you're referring to? Does it go IN the tire or on the back side of it like the Centramatic balancers?

HAGO!

 

[ButterSmooth]

I went to the Counteract website. All I could find for motorcycles was some sort of innertube (I guess). Is that what you're referring to? Does it go IN the tire or on the back side of it like the Centramatic balancers?

HAGO!

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[ButterSmooth]

I just used the axle on 2 jack stands and taped the weights on until it didn't roll on the rear Kumho. Peeled the paper, stuck the weights on, and it doesn't vibrate enough to notice at any speed. Been on there for about 5,000 miles and showing no wear at all. Still no vibrations. Only used about 1/2 oz of weights. Don't have any beads in the tire.

That is my drop balance plan, but if Peter and Mike are to be believed (risky :joke I shouldn't have to do anything. My plan at this point is to put it on the drop balance setup, just to see how far it's out of balance. Then I'll put it on the Spyder and if I feel anything, spend the $25 and add Counteract beads. Another worry eliminated.

Supposed to be 50° tomorrow, so that will be the big new tire test!

I truly appreciate the help guys!!

 

[Joel The Biker]

Dont waste your time balancing it. It should be fine. I have installed 3 rear tires without balancing and had no issues at all.

 

[Steve W.]

The shop that mounted and balanced (most of) my tires also could not balance the rear. When I got the wheels and tires back to my shop, I used the axle and jackstands method to check the balance on the rear. I could not find any need to add any weights, so I just put it back on the bike. 5200 miles on the Q5s so far, and nothing has changed my opinion that any weight needed to be added. :thumbup:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

The shop that mounted and balanced (most of) my tires also could not balance the rear. When I got the wheels and tires back to my shop, I used the axle and jackstands method to check the balance on the rear. I could not find any need to add any weights, so I just put it back on the bike. 5200 miles on the Q5s so far, and nothing has changed my opinion that any weight needed to be added. :thumbup:

Just so we understand ....No balance weights on the REAR .... but did you have to balance the Q-5's ( the front tires ) .......... Thanks, Mike :thumbup:

 

[RICZ]

Quality tires do make a difference for the better. My front Kendas had a least 3 ounce of weights on each wheel. Had a pair of Federal Formoza mounted on the front and each got but 3/4 of an ounce to balance.

 

[ButterSmooth]

Road force balancing my front Vredesteins resulted in forces of 8# and 10# remaining, which is well below the 20# threshold of perception. I don't know what the max acceptable force is, but the tech thought these tires were quite good.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Today I had Vredestein Quatrac 5s mounted and balanced on the front wheel and a Kuhmo Ecsta mounted, but not balanced, on the rear. The local tire shop couldn't balance the rear, because the hub wouldn't fit on their machine.:banghead:

Two methods occurred to me: Drop balance the wheel using the axle and weights, or Ride-on. I think Ride-on is the way to go, but 30 minutes of web searches didn't find any car formula Ride-on in stock or available. I need 17oz -- anybody have a lead to some?

I'm surprised the tire guy didn't offer to put a liquid tire balance in it. My local tire shop put Liquid Balance in my rear tire, the same stuff they regularly use in large pickup and truck tires.

 

[trikermutha]

Last two rears I put on used Counter act beads , that is it and never had a issue.

 

[billybovine]

If it was my Spyder I would take off the Kuhmo and put on a better tire. I hate to say it but a crappy Kenda is better then the Kuhmo. As for balancing. Just put in some beads.

 

[Steve W.]

Just so we understand ....No balance weights on the REAR .... but did you have to balance the Q-5's ( the front tires ) .......... Thanks, Mike :thumbup:

That is correct. I just checked, one front wheel required 1/2 ounce, the other required nothing. :thumbup:

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[jcthorne]

I recommend taking the tire and wheel to a motorcycle shop that has the correct tools to mount and balance that tire correctly. Do the job right.

I also agree with the sentiment you can do far better than that Kumho for a tire. Those get rather squirrely in the rain and are pretty poor traction.

 

[Lew L]

Road force balancing my front Vredesteins resulted in forces of 8# and 10# remaining, which is well below the 20# threshold of perception. I don't know what the max acceptable force is, but the tech thought these tires were quite good.

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