Concealed carry on a RT - which holster?

[safecracker]

When I carry on Spyder it is at the 4:30 position IWB.

 

[campermac]

I carry my P365 in my Sticky Holster. Don't even know it is there and when I am off the bike it doesn't leave a foot print so that others can't see it either.

 

[Jeriatric]

California > Concealed or Open carry

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I don't believe concealed carry, and especially open carry, are necessary. But if you insist on doing it all I ask is you be mindful of all those around you and participate in vigorous gun use and safety training equal to what law enforcement officers go through. An LE spoke to our church some time ago about safety. She said you need to be so well trained that you use the weapon instinctively. That requires refresher training every few weeks or months, just as the LE folks do. When you are in a panic or crisis situation you dare not plan on being able to think rationally and quickly. The human mind isn't created that way.

 

[Navydad]

In all my years of reading these CCW posts, yours, is the first "I had to" that I recall ever reading.

Glad it all worked out!

I actually was carrying because there had been folks with their dogs harassed by a group of coyotes at the floodwall. The problem with urban coyotes is they have lost their fear of people and will come after the smaller pets. I didn't have a small dog with me, but I wasn't about to be treed by coyotes either. The coyotes were eventually all trapped and removed from their city home. I don't carry often in our small town and really have no fear here, but I want the option to protect mine when away from home or when strolling through urban coyote country.

 

[PistonBlown]

I believe a rough translation to this song is: "love faith and peace be amongst us all."

It's a great thought, but when people all over the world are trying to kill each other with trucks, knives, bombs, guns, and whatever they can get their hands on, it becomes a great wish. It has become a world wide mindset that violence is the new cure for people that don't believe the way others think they should. This new age of violence has several roots; religion, nationalities, race, class, culture, etc. We have lost our humanity.

I'm on the side of those that just want to live our lives and tolerate others. I also believe that you must be able to defend yourself and you have a right to do it. You cannot count on the authorities to always do it for you. There's an old saying I learned as a police officer, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." I always conceal carry.

And of course all those guns you have in the US have done wonders in lowering the number of deaths.

As someone one who has seen more than enough violence in my 50 years, most recently being within two metres of the Christchurch shooter, I see no need for them.

So time for me to leave SpyderLovers, I'd rather ride in peace than read this stuff.

 

[Bfromla]

I carry a spare tire & I can't remember the last time I needed it.

Interesting analogy.:thumbup:

:spyder2:Spare tire :hun: :dontknow: that safety card however :clap::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

 

[Dennis in Lodi]

I don't believe concealed carry, and especially open carry, are necessary. But if you insist on doing it all I ask is you be mindful of all those around you and participate in vigorous gun use and safety training equal to what law enforcement officers go through. An LE spoke to our church some time ago about safety. She said you need to be so well trained that you use the weapon instinctively. That requires refresher training every few weeks or months, just as the LE folks do. When you are in a panic or crisis situation you dare not plan on being able to think rationally and quickly. The human mind isn't created that way.

This view is a bit off base for me. Most shootings are at very close range and even an untrained person can point a pistol at 6 feet and shoot to save their life. Consider this. YOU, Your child, relative for close friend is standing in a situation with a gun in their face. Next to them is a dead person just shot by this offender. Then by a miracle as conceal carry person ends this situation. I think any victim would have little concern about how accurate I shoot and other possible collateral damage my missing might have. But make no mistake, if I responded to that situation with my conceal carry, my personal freedom would be in real trouble. If I don't loose my freedom, I would have to be on guard the rest of my life from retaliation from friends and family of this offender that I cripple or kill.
I have carried my gun for 7 years and not one person except a very select few have even the slightest clue. I envision standing in a a place of business with some young worker who is SOMEBODY's son or daughter, facing grave danger that they didn't sing up for. In that situation, without hesitation, I will place my FREEDOM on the line to save that person. It would be an honor if I did that service for you one day and it would help put a face on the picture of what the real conceal carry person is. I challenge ANYONE to look at the statistics of crimes committed by conceal carry persons or even collateral damage from lack of weekly training to use the weapon.
D3ennis

 

[kissfan]

I don't believe concealed carry, and especially open carry, are necessary. But if you insist on doing it all I ask is you be mindful of all those around you and participate in vigorous gun use and safety training equal to what law enforcement officers go through. An LE spoke to our church some time ago about safety. She said you need to be so well trained that you use the weapon instinctively. That requires refresher training every few weeks or months, just as the LE folks do. When you are in a panic or crisis situation you dare not plan on being able to think rationally and quickly. The human mind isn't created that way.

As an NRA instructor, may I give an observation?

Most LE folks do not train more than twice a year after the academy. Most are not "gun people" and only shoot/practice enough to qualify for the next year. I have personally witnessed LE training, and I used it as a teaching tool with my students as how NOT to handle firearms. Rounds in the ceiling, sweeping one another. Don't confuse wearing the uniform with firearm knowledge.

 

[Lew L]

And of course all those guns you have in the US have done wonders in lowering the number of deaths.

As someone one who has seen more than enough violence in my 50 years, most recently being within two metres of the Christchurch shooter, I see no need for them.

So time for me to leave SpyderLovers, I'd rather ride in peace than read this stuff.

To bad---- Your contributions to the site have been worthwhile and interesting.

Please don't be run off by those of us who would rather " be judged by 12 than be carried by 6. "

 

[ARtraveler]

PM sent to PistonBlown.


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[TONYO]

My Spectrum on a ST>>

 

[jcoats1]

Really???

 

[Fatcycledaddy]

Why not just leave it at home, assuming that you’re just out for a ride and not a holdup job?

I don't leave it at home for the same reasons I don't leave my helmet, eye protection, leathers, gloves, and any other Safety equipment at home when i just go out for a ride.
I will never know when I will need it until I do need it. When I do need it, if it is setting at home, it does me no good and is too late to use it.
Just as I hope I never have to use all of the safety equipment that i wear when I ride, I also hope I never have to use the safety equipment I carry on my person. Both sets of safety equipment have one purpose and that is to prevent bodily harm and or death if possible.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

As an NRA instructor, may I give an observation?

Most LE folks do not train more than twice a year after the academy. Most are not "gun people" and only shoot/practice enough to qualify for the next year. I have personally witnessed LE training, and I used it as a teaching tool with my students as how NOT to handle firearms. Rounds in the ceiling, sweeping one another. Don't confuse wearing the uniform with firearm knowledge.

So you're saying proper training is essential for proper handling of a firearm?

 

[Wildrice]

So you're saying proper training is essential for proper handling of a firearm?

Nothing about firearms scare me more than someone who buys a handgun for protection, never goes to a range to fire it, or never fires it at all while thinking it may be their life saver. Call the ER, resident with bullet hole in their foot :-( I would never recommend a pistol to be used by the uninitiated, pistols can be complicated where as in a panic environment a revolver is fairly simple--just aim & pull the trigger. It's one thing to be shooting at a range & totally different when someone breaks into your home--no time to remember to cock the slide or take the safety off without being an experienced shooter.

 

[kissfan]

So you're saying proper training is essential for proper handling of a firearm?

It is suggested, yes.

My statement said not to equate Law Enforcement with proper firearm handling and tactics.

 

[Pallidus Aranea]

To the original question - concealed carry on an RT. For me just depends on what I am wearing that day. I can comfortably carry in the rear waistband, ankle, inside the jacket (vented or leather) or I have a "tank bag" if for some strange reason I want it "with me" but "not on me".

Why do I carry - First and foremost - it is a Constitutional right granted, just like my right to vote. I use both to the best of my ability. I have been on the victim end of things one too many times - albeit for many different reasons. Wearing is two parts for me (1) it provides me some control in a situation where I normally would have none and (2) insurance - since I am well trained and disciplined, I can provide some additional "insurance" for my family.

 

[BoilerAnimal]

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So much for concealed carry.

 

[2dogs]

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I don't think that's such a good idea Tonyo. JMO

In one of my travels I happened across some bikes parked outside a restaurant where we stopped for bite. I noticed one of bikes had an empty holster strapped on to it's handlebars. Later we were all leaving at about the same time and I commented to the rider of the bike with the empty holster about the item. I was told there was no gun for it. He said no one knew that but him, so no one took any chances not knowing who had the gun or where it was. Interesting concept.