Do we like modular helmets or not???

[Haikanko]

I wear an open face helmet with ear plugs as find full face claustrophobic......

 

[VegasSpyder]

I agree on the helmet. Just yesterday I saw a couple on one bike, no helmets (not required in Nevada on a 3 wheeled machine) driving like FOOLS!

 

[FalconAF]

They don't make a modular because they can't get Snell Certification.

You keep saying that, but it is misleading. Snell certifies helmets primarily for the RACING community, so yes, their standards will be higher than the regular CONSUMER community. So if a manufacturer is not MAKING a helmet designed to meet RACING standards to begin with, of course they probably won't get a Snell certification. But Snell has 3 different categories of ratings also. Primarily, they will not "certify" a modular helmet because it doesn't meet RACING standards. And yes...as of today, you won't see professional RACING riders wearing modular helmets during competition events.

But that does NOT mean that ALL modular helmets are "unsafe" or aren't "as safe as" a full face helmet for a non-racing environment user JUST BECAUSE Snell won't certify the helmet.

Just because Snell doesn't or won't "certify" a non-racing designed helmet does NOT mean the helmet is unsafe for NORMAL everyday riding use.

For those who want to understand it all, here is the link to the FAQ's Snell site. Well worth reading ALL of it to understand the reality of the situation instead of just blindly implying something like "no modulars are safe because they aren't Snell certified".

http://www.smf.org/helmetfaq#aSAMKdiff

 

[Pirate looks at --]

You keep saying that, but it is misleading. Snell certifies helmets primarily for the RACING community, so yes, their standards will be higher than the regular CONSUMER community. So if a manufacturer is not MAKING a helmet designed to meet RACING standards to begin with, of course they probably won't get a Snell certification. But Snell has 3 different categories of ratings also. Primarily, they will not "certify" a modular helmet because it doesn't meet RACING standards. And yes...as of today, you won't see professional RACING riders wearing modular helmets during competition events.

But that does NOT mean that ALL modular helmets are "unsafe" or aren't "as safe as" a full face helmet for a non-racing environment user JUST BECAUSE Snell won't certify the helmet.

Just because Snell doesn't or won't "certify" a non-racing designed helmet does NOT mean the helmet is unsafe for NORMAL everyday riding use.

For those who want to understand it all, here is the link to the FAQ's Snell site. Well worth reading ALL of it to understand the reality of the situation instead of just blindly implying something like "no modulars are safe because they aren't Snell certified".

http://www.smf.org/helmetfaq#aSAMKdiff

Please Please Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything about safety. You even quoted me, and I never said anything about Safety. The Snell Foundation is Located in my town. I have toured their facility, and they have been guests at our club meeting. I know a bit about Snell. It matters not why they will or will not certify a helmet. They have their standards, and modulars do not meet those standards. Full face helmets with interior flip down sun shades do not meet their standards. They would be happy to certify a modular helmet, and they have tested many of them, but they don't meet the minimum standards. In fact most full face helmets don't meet those standards, and are not certified. So I have worn Arai Snell Certified helmets in the past, mainly for comfort as they have great ventilation and for my head shape they fit great. I now where Shoei Neo-Tec 2 not certified by Snell, but safe enough for me. So do me a favor. If you are going to quote me, get it right.:clap:

 

[FalconAF]

They would be happy to certify a modular helmet, and they have tested many of them, but they don't meet the minimum standards.

I wasn't "putting words in your mouth". I quoted your reply to another person's reply about them wearing a full face helmet for the "additional safety" of it. And that the maker of that helmet didn't make modulars. You then said the maker didn't make modulars "because they couldn't get Snell to certify one".

My point in my post was in regards to what your post DOES imply (again) in what I just quoted you again above. The Snell standard is not "the" standard for the entire motorcycle helmet industry. It is "a" standard established by Snell alone. If Snell decides to use their own standard(s) for every helmet, of course some won't meet Snell's requirements. But this thread is full of "implications" that no modular helmet is safe because Snell won't certify them. And that is a wrong impression for any motorcycle forum to express, especially to a potential new rider coming here looking for accurate safety information.

That's all I was saying. So please don't put words in my mouth either. Miscommunication and misunderstanding is a hazard of all written communication.

 

[jnt]

Yes. Started with BMW helmet in late 80s. Latest is SCHUBERTH C-3 Pro. Very quiet at speeed. Sprung for their comm collar and happy with that as well.

 

[Pirate looks at --]

You keep saying that, but it is misleading. Snell certifies helmets primarily for the RACING community, so yes, their standards will be higher than the regular CONSUMER community. So if a manufacturer is not MAKING a helmet designed to meet RACING standards to begin with, of course they probably won't get a Snell certification. But Snell has 3 different categories of ratings also. Primarily, they will not "certify" a modular helmet because it doesn't meet RACING standards. And yes...as of today, you won't see professional RACING riders wearing modular helmets during competition events.

But that does NOT mean that ALL modular helmets are "unsafe" or aren't "as safe as" a full face helmet for a non-racing environment user JUST BECAUSE Snell won't certify the helmet.

Just because Snell doesn't or won't "certify" a non-racing designed helmet does NOT mean the helmet is unsafe for NORMAL everyday riding use.

For those who want to understand it all, here is the link to the FAQ's Snell site. Well worth reading ALL of it to understand the reality of the situation instead of just blindly implying something like "no modulars are safe because they aren't Snell certified".

http://www.smf.org/helmetfaq#aSAMKdiff

"They don't make a modular because they can't get Snell Certification. That is also why they came out with the "External Flip Up Sun Visor" as Snell will not approve the internal flip up sun visor."

Now that is the exact thing I posted. You have an active imagination, or a poor understanding of the English language, neither of which is a bad thing. You even said, "You keep saying that", and I had only made one post on the subject. No where do I make a statement about safety, or that Snell is better than any other rating DOT, or ECE. I merely pointed out that Arai thinks that the Snell certification is important to them and their customers. I also stated that I wore Arai for a while for comfort, not safety. Again stick to your own words, I think you will be better off.

 

[Raprider]

Currently wearing Scorpion EXO GT-920 Modular (with sun shield) for both me and the misses and very pleased with them.
Occasionally wear our HJC Half-helmets, but have been using less since getting the modulars.

We had always used full-face helmets prior. We both wear glasses and find the modulars much easier to put the glasses on with the chin bar up. Also makes it easy to grab the water bottle or chat with a co-rider at a stop light, or open the helmet in traffic.

 

[Petrom714]

Something about my fat head that I can't get on a full face! Only the flip up lets me widen the opening a smidge tugging on the straps to get it on comfortably.

try the arai quanum x--if you're round/round oval---slight force needed to pull it on /off but really gotten comfortable with the full face security and how well designed it is

 

[Fat Baxter]

I would love to have a modular helmet. Unfortunately, I have a long-oval head, and no one makes a modular helmet for that head shape. I tried a Neotec, but it created a monstrously unbearable hot spot on my forehead after about an hour. So I'm stuck with Arai Signets, a full-face helmet.

In the short time I tried the Neotec, I noticed how nose-heavy it was compared to my Arai. Annoyingly so.

 

[Flanker]

Nah! They suck! :joke:

Icon Airframe Pro Warbird for me.

https://www.jpcycles.com/product/16...&creative=77103310579382&device=c&matchtype=e

 

[Bama Fan]

Modular here. Nolan N100-5. Awesome helmet.

 

[foxtail1]

I used a full face for over 10 years, then switched to modular (HJC RPHA MAX). Love the helmet, and really like the Pinlock insert. It makes an enormous difference when riding in bad weather. I can remember riding with my full face helmet in bad weather with my visor cracked open to try to keep it from fogging, but the Pinlock solved that.

 

[rahine]

I like the modular. I wear a Shoei Neotec II

 

[Fatcycledaddy]

I currently have a modular, a shark evoline 3 and love it. I'm looking to buy another shortly. Dale

Make that 2 more with Shark. We have the EVO one 2 and love them. The only helmet that I have seen that can be used as full and open face.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

IMHO they are best of all worlds ….. Mike hyea:

 

[jbim]

Only and always full face for me, my wife and son. I wear glasses as well.

J

 

[jerrydonna]

we ride with our Sena Calvery his her, or Sena Momentum. we live in a helmet state, but travel west yearly have gone topless a little but the 1/2 calvary is mostly over my bald head

 

[Saluda]

Yes, a lot.

 

[Motorcycledave]

Hi Bob Merry Christmas