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Unstable ride feeling........
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Easy Rider
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I'm keeping that option open.
I spent near to $30K on this "amazing" machine and I do NOT expect it to feel like it's going to jump into the other lane......or off the road.....for no apparent reason at all.
Easy Rider
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You almost had me convinced that you were unbiased......almost.
How do you reconcile those two statements above ??
If it is so damn stable, why do so MANY owners complain that it is NOT ????
And I'm not an amateur at this driving thing. Over the course of 55 years or so I've driven or ridden almost anything on the road, including farm tractors, big trucks straight and semi, and about 30 different motorcycles and probably a hundred different cars and light trucks.
Your second statement above sounds a LOT like you are saying that all of those who think it feels like it is NOT stable are just mistaken and should get over it. I don't appreciate that.
He is saying the bike is stable. For those folks who just can't adapt to the different riding dynamics of this unique machine, it will never feel stable. No disconnect there as far as I'm concerned.
Highwayman2013
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Please get a good alignment and try not to be so offended by people who have more experience with Spyders. I too have experience driving many different vehicles. The spyder is unique and requires somewhat of a different approach. Like I told you before we are trying to help you get to a happy place with your spyder. There is an easy way and a hard way. Let us make it easy.
ofdave
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sometimes one can overthink a situation.
There have been good suggestions posted here.
There have been comments on perhaps not continuing to ride a machine that causes so much personal grief.
Asking for help and then belittling those who give advice without at least an open-minded review of the advice serves no useful purpose.
If you only want answers that show your opinion to be correct, then the question is a waste of time.
Sell the Spyder that causes so much angst before you hurt yourself on it just to prove you were right all along.
There have been good suggestions posted here.
There have been comments on perhaps not continuing to ride a machine that causes so much personal grief.
Asking for help and then belittling those who give advice without at least an open-minded review of the advice serves no useful purpose.
If you only want answers that show your opinion to be correct, then the question is a waste of time.
Sell the Spyder that causes so much angst before you hurt yourself on it just to prove you were right all along.
Easy Rider
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Thank you. I do appreciate the help.
I do NOT appreciate someone saying "it is a stable machine, no matter what you might think."
That is just a rude insult.
Easy Rider
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It is called a discussion.
There has been no "belittling" going on here.......except maybe from YOU.
ofdave
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GearHd
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X2!! :agree:
When I purchase my 2015 Rt last July with 10200 miles on it I thought I made one big mistake. It wander all over the road and handled terrible. I joined this group and got to reading and learned a lot. First thing I did was set correct tire air pressure. Then took the front tires off and had them balanced. Got to reading about laser alignment. After finding out how simple that was I got the equipment and did my own. That was the biggest improvement of all ( Yes I know there is going to be people say take it to a dealer. I have not found a dealer in my area I would let mess it up now.) Then I put Doc's belt tensioner on replaced all three tires with car tires. I also purchased set of three Centramatic balancers. I do my own tires but I have a local tire shop that has a real good expensive balancer. I was not real happy with the balance I was getting on the front tires so I removed the Centramatic balancers and had the local shop balance them. It handle and rides like a dream. I can let loose of the handle bars at 80 miles and hour on a smooth highway and it will stay straight for a long distance. I ride with two fingers on the handle bars. I also bleed the brakes and it stops and does not pull either direction. I have put over 7000 miles on it and never rode for 2-1/2 months. The alignment and tires are the most important things in handling. I ride alone and weigh 150 lbs. so I don't think a sway bar would improve my ride or handling.
ThreeWheels
Active member
Just means you're one of the lucky ones.
On my wife's Cognac, I did have Squared Away fix the previous laser alignment the first owner had done at one of the well-regarded dealers in the mid-West...
BajaRon
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There is no such thing as an unbiased person. But I try to center my bias based on fact. How well I do this is for others to decide.
The great majority of 'complainers' are new or (Spyder) inexperienced riders coming off of 2 wheels. You won't find many experienced Spyder riders complaining about stability issues.
I understand your frustration. But it's hard to judge a coin from one side. If you can get to where you can see the other side of this coin, things will take on a completely different perspective for you. We're trying to get you to the other side of this mountain.
It is a simple, physical fact that the Spyder is one of the most stable machines you can ride. However, that does not necessarily mean that YOUR Spyder is stable. Thus a number of very good, tried and true suggestions have been made to at least eliminate the Spyder as the cause of your woes. But the truth is. It may well be that you are the biggest contributor to the problem. If we are genuinely looking for a solution. It is best to examine all possibilities. Especially those with the greatest probability.
Exactly! And you are making my point here (and points of several others). I also have similar experience. And it was all this experience that made riding the Spyder the worst experience I've ever had on any machine. Twitchy, uncontrollable, miserable. A nearly un-rideable, wretched machine! That was my early impression of my new Spyder. But it was nearly 100% my fault. This is my point. I too would have been offended if someone had told me this. But they would have been 100% correct. Because it was true.
I readily admit it now because I've seen both sides of the coin. And I now know the core problem was me. Once I did allow that it might be my fault. I changed the way I rode and discovered an amazingly stable machine. Now I love it!
You're half right. I am saying that there is a very good chance that, like me, you are the lions share of the problem here. I am not saying that you should 'get over it'. That would mean ignoring the problem which, even if you could, I would not recommend it. The goal here is not for you to appreciate me. It is for you to appreciate your Spyder. The reason I post is because I think that can be achieved.
I am very sorry you feel this way. Baring the mechanical issues discussed in this thread being present. Your Spyder is a very stable machine, regardless of how you may feel about it. Reality should not insult anyone.
Some people feel very unsafe in an airplane. But the fact is, aircraft are by far one of the safest ways to travel. Just saying that perception sometimes defies reality.
I am not here to upset, belittle, or berate anyone. I am sorry if anyone comes away with this feeling after reading one of my posts.
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johnsimion
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This is IMHO the best suggestion of all. For that matter, go to the dealer and let them ride your Spyder and see what they think. And maybe have them ride it as passenger and with you as the driver. And while you're there, try out a brand-new Spyder for yourself and see if you have the same issues with it.
Excellent advice. Let us know what you think after you've done this.
I know a lot people don't think very many people are capable of laser alignment. Most of the dealers to not have mechanics that understand the alignment and would take the time. I was a mechanic, machinist and tool & die maker for over 30 years. Since 1956 I have been in manufacturing management and sales. All you have to do is line the front wheels with the rear. It is real important on three wheels.
spyderjeffrey
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By myself i ride balls to the wall , with the wife on diff. story . found higher pressure looser ride .
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Easy Rider
New member
What brand and model are your new tires ??
Since you did that AFTER the alignment, did you notice that the new tires made much difference ??
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