changing spark plugs on 2014 rt limited

[SteveLaoyster]

Best place for thermal paste is......Radio Shack or any Electronics store. and you can get it in various sizes usually in an injector and a little goes a long long way

You'll want to make sure it is capable of handling the high temperatures of the Rotax engine. The Radio Shack stuff probably isn't rated for it.

 

[BajaRon]

I know some thermal paste's, probably older stuff, use zinc oxide or some other oxide to help with heat transfer.

Does the stuff recommended by BRP have something like this or is it just silicon grease as I saw on ebay?

I'm just trying to see what thermal paste's can be used and trying to get educated on this up-to-date technology. Thanks.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Ski-Doo-New-...ash=item2cab3a2fd6:g:SPcAAOSwlfxXFU4a&vxp=mtr

Silicone grease is another name for Dielectric Grease. It goes on the spark plug boots to keep them from vulcanizing to the spark plug. Do not use this on the spark plug threads.

You'll want to make sure it is capable of handling the high temperatures of the Rotax engine. The Radio Shack stuff probably isn't rated for it.

Any decent thermal paste will work fine. Though it probably wouldn't hurt to get something like Artic Silver. It doesn't have to be special. You'd be surprised how hot CPU's get.

 

[Buckeye Chuck 54]

My way to change spark plugs.

I'm an old gearhead who used to rebuild motorcycle engines. But health issues forced me to get into 3 wheels if I wanted to keep the wind in my face. I bought a BMW K1200LT that had a Hannigan trike conversion. I couldn't work on it, changing oil was about all I could do. The BMW dealer charged me over $1100 to service it. When BRP started using the 1330 engine on the RT's it was time for the change. Now I don't have to worry about adjusting valves or any other things that needed done. Although a chore, I can change my own oil, and air filter. As for spark plugs, I have no issue handing over my card and let the dealer do it for me. I have them changed every 50,000 miles or every spring, whichever comes first. These iridium plugs look new after I rode 49,000 last year. I'm thinking of increasing change intervals to 75,000. The dealer charges over $20 a plug and 2 hours labor, well worth it.
Buckeye Chuck

 

[2loves]

Have been messing with this challenge for days. AFTER I GET THIRD SPARK PLUG CHANGED NEVER EVER WILL I TAKE ON THIS TASK AGAIN. Old plugs didn't look all that bad after 30k.

 

[SteveLaoyster]

Have been messing with this challenge for days. AFTER I GET THIRD SPARK PLUG CHANGED NEVER EVER WILL I TAKE ON THIS TASK AGAIN. Old plugs didn't look all that bad after 30k.

That's not good that you had issues getting them changed out.

Did you use any of the suggestions made by me or Bob above?

The problem with our suggestions is that they probably would have made matters worse.:roflblack::roflblack:

 

[JayBros]

I went to a dealer to purchase the paste and was told that it's a large tube that costs over $100. What the parts guy did was go back into the service area and he put some into a small plastic zip bag (4 changes worth) and gave that to me at no charge.

Ask your dealer if they will do that for you.

Cheap Cycle Parts has 90ml of the part number I gave for about $39. That would probably do quite a few plugs.

 

[SteveLaoyster]

For anyone interested:


As you can see, the lower the line is on the graph, the more capable the compound is to transfer heat.

 

[agedbikeman]

changing spark plugs on 2014 rt limited Your Message

This paste is also known as "Heat Sink Compound", it's use in tv's with power transistors and chips for the same purpose as BRP are saying, but given the fact that spark plugs are screwed in and tightened, I can't see where metal to metal contact can be improved with this compound, I think it's BRP being OTT like they are with everything else like loctite. The rattling clanking heap of the 1330 engine can hardly be described as quality so I don't know what all the fuss is about. My 1330 runs well but sounds like 2 skeletons tap dancing in a biscuit tin.

 

[Bob Denman]

My 1330 runs well but sounds like 2 skeletons tap dancing in a biscuit tin.

I can't tell if that's better, or worse; than sounding like a tray full of empty dishes getting tossed down the cellar stairs!

 

[SteveLaoyster]

Dishes?!! Skeletons!!!??:yikes::yikes: Where do I find these on the parts listing if they need to be replaced??? How many miles until I have to??:roflblack::roflblack:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

THIS THERMAL PASTE

For anyone interested:
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As you can see, the lower the line is on the graph, the more capable the compound is to transfer heat.
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Steve in the upper graff , the box has 7 compounds but the graff only has 6 lines ???? ....... and what exactly is better the ability to transfer heat or the resistance to that ???? .... Mike :thumbup:

 

[SteveLaoyster]

Steve in the upper graff , the box has 7 compounds but the graff only has 6 lines ???? ....... and what exactly is better the ability to transfer heat or the resistance to that ???? .... Mike :thumbup:

I just took a closer look & both the Dow Corning tc5022 and the Shinetsu stuff have the same line. And on the chart it looks like they didn't even bother to put the specs on for the worst of the bunch.

The ability to transfer the heat from one medium to another is the needed ticket.

Both the graph and the chart have the ones with less resistance to thermal transfer at the bottom.

Looks like the Dow Corning tc5022 is the stuff to get. Found it on moddiy.com for $10 for 3.5 grams.

 

[BajaRon]

This paste is also known as "Heat Sink Compound", it's use in tv's with power transistors and chips for the same purpose as BRP are saying, but given the fact that spark plugs are screwed in and tightened, I can't see where metal to metal contact can be improved with this compound, I think it's BRP being OTT like they are with everything else like loctite. The rattling clanking heap of the 1330 engine can hardly be described as quality so I don't know what all the fuss is about. My 1330 runs well but sounds like 2 skeletons tap dancing in a biscuit tin.

Yes, the spark plugs are screwed in and you're probably correct that application of thermal paste is not going to improve the metal to metal heat transfer rate. However, there are voids between the treads where there is no direct metal to metal contact at all. It is these voids that the thermal paste fills, effectively creating a much larger contact/surface area through which heat transfer can take place. With the sensitivity of the anti-knock sensors and the related actions which will be taken by the computer to prevent pre-ignition (all negative in respect to engine performance, power and fuel mileage). I'm not sure that BRP is being OTT on this one.

 

[agedbikeman]

Dishes?!! Skeletons!!!??:yikes::yikes: Where do I find these on the parts listing if they need to be replaced??? How many miles until I have to??:roflblack::roflblack:

Dishes, Skeletons, AND biscuit tins are all replaced at 30,000 millipigs :roflblack::clap::gaah:

 

[agedbikeman]

A 25g tube of Servisol heat sink compound which will do all that's expected in this case cost 3.99GBP, about 5 bucks and will do lots of spark plugs

 

[BajaRon]

I went to a dealer to purchase the paste and was told that it's a large tube that costs over $100. What the parts guy did was go back into the service area and he put some into a small plastic zip bag (4 changes worth) and gave that to me at no charge.

Ask your dealer if they will do that for you.

BTW the spark plugs are $20 each for a total of $60. My next change will be at 50,000 miles on the current plugs as the ones I changed at 40,000 looked great

I sell the 3 Spark Plug Replacement Kit for the 1330 motor $36.95 delivered. And it includes Thermal Paste and Dielectric Grease. Don't pay $20 for your spark plugs! :yikes:

 

[lewisalice]

I sell the 3 Spark Plug Replacement Kit for the 1330 motor $36.95 delivered. And it includes Thermal Paste and Dielectric Grease. Don't pay $20 for your spark plugs! :yikes:

Where is your website so I can order from you?

 

[pegasus1300]

agedbikeman:" My 1330 runs well but sounds like 2 skeletons tap dancing in a biscuit tin". :clap::roflblack::clap::roflblack::clap::roflblack:

 

[BajaRon]

Where is your website so I can order from you?

email me at [email protected]

or PM me here on Spyderlovers.com

 

[Mad Mac]

So what's the rumor I've heard that, it's easier to take the frunk off to get to the plugs??? Mac:roflblack::roflblack: