trikermutha
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Hell I put Goodyear Comfort Tread tires when I had the Triglide to help soften the ride. As it rode like a tank :yikes:
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Hell I put Goodyear Comfort Tread tires when I had the Triglide to help soften the ride. As it rode like a tank :yikes:
It does ride better than an armored personnel carrier. Having the opportunity to ride in several tanks along with other tracked vehicles, I named my TriGlide "Sherman".
I was just one of the unfortunate ones who could not keep tires on my Spyder. I really loved riding it. Great machine. Tires and a couple other issues had my wife saying it had to go. Just wish BRP would spec and supply a better tire.
IdahoMtnSpyder
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It's time to point out what I wrote back in July, 2016. http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...-Kenda-tires&p=1160433&viewfull=1#post1160433
When you read the quotes below you'll understand about HD trikes and other trike conversions. What rim is on their bike? It's a car rim, right? Car rim, car tire. The Spyder rim is not designed nor sold as a car rim even though the cross section profile is essentially the same as a car rim. If you dig into the bowels of NHTSA records of filings by tire manufacturers I'm sure you will find documentation that Kenda certifies their tires to fit properly on Spyder rims, and no certification for fitting car rims. No car tire manufacturer has, I'm sure, nor will they ever, certify their tire to fit properly on a Spyder rim. It's not worth the cost for them to do so, particularly if the Spyder rim is in fact ever so slightly variant from standard car rim design. No certification, no sanctioned use. I don't recall the exact requirement but NHTSA regulations state something to the effect that any tire that is not certified for car rims (maybe also truck rims) must be labeled for its intended use, hence the motorcycle use label on the Kendas and 'Not for Highway Use' on wheelbarrow tires. Trailer tires are labelled for trailer use because they are not intended nor certified for car rim use.
From the post linked above:
Federal Reg:
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IdahoMtnSpyder
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Special Motorcycle Use?
I don't have any Kenda Spyder tires now. So would one of you who have both Spyders with Kenda tires and two wheel motorcycles around take a look at the labels and let us know just exactly what they are. The difference in labels should be interesting to see. I can't find any good pics on Google, although I did see a pic of one two wheeler tire that was labeled "Rear wheel use only."
That info will enlighten us a bit on this discussion of car tires on Spyders.
I don't have any Kenda Spyder tires now. So would one of you who have both Spyders with Kenda tires and two wheel motorcycles around take a look at the labels and let us know just exactly what they are. The difference in labels should be interesting to see. I can't find any good pics on Google, although I did see a pic of one two wheeler tire that was labeled "Rear wheel use only."
That info will enlighten us a bit on this discussion of car tires on Spyders.
always young
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It's the rim profile
I've seen this same discussion on my motorcycle forum as well. Someone finally came up with the most logical answer of why you "can't" use car tires on motorcycles. The profile on the rim for the bead is different between the two. The car tire profile tends to lock the bead onto the rim. The motorcycle rim profile doesn't lock the tire on the same way. Regardless though, people have been using car tires on 2 and 3 wheeled bikes with great success for quite some time. Once my stock tires wear out on my F3 Ldt I'll be switching over as well.
I've seen this same discussion on my motorcycle forum as well. Someone finally came up with the most logical answer of why you "can't" use car tires on motorcycles. The profile on the rim for the bead is different between the two. The car tire profile tends to lock the bead onto the rim. The motorcycle rim profile doesn't lock the tire on the same way. Regardless though, people have been using car tires on 2 and 3 wheeled bikes with great success for quite some time. Once my stock tires wear out on my F3 Ldt I'll be switching over as well.
Woodaddict
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bead
the Spyder has car like bead profiles.
the Spyder has car like bead profiles.
Peteoz
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I have been looking at and discussing car tyres on motorcycles for many many years, always young, and I have NEVER seen a report of a car tyre EVER coming off a motorcycle rim. I don’t know that the above claim qualifies as a “logical” answer, as there is absolutely no evidence to back it up.
Pete
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BEAD COMPARISION
If there is a difference between the Spyder rim and an Auto/truck rim the difference is to small to see ..... Awhile back someone here posted Pics of the outline to both done as an over-lay ..... you couldn't tell the difference ...the lines matched up perfectly ....... just sayin .... Mike :thumbup:
If there is a difference between the Spyder rim and an Auto/truck rim the difference is to small to see ..... Awhile back someone here posted Pics of the outline to both done as an over-lay ..... you couldn't tell the difference ...the lines matched up perfectly ....... just sayin .... Mike :thumbup:
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Bob Denman
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yup! :agree: :thumbup:
Rob looked them over VERY closely, and pronounced the Spyder's rim to be identical to a car rim.
Rob looked them over VERY closely, and pronounced the Spyder's rim to be identical to a car rim.
Tire manufacters have done actual tests......have you?
Until someone shows me an actual test conducted that would be permitted in a court I'll stick with my trusted Kenda tires.
All this "talk" and what they "feel" would never be permitted in a court when you are sued in an accident using car tires.
Vehicles involved in serious accidents involving death or likely to die always get impounded and investigated by insurance companies.
They do this because claims are very expensive and they are looking to void your insurance claiming you violated the contract.
"Legalities" are everything when everything you own becomes someone else's. nojoke
Until someone shows me an actual test conducted that would be permitted in a court I'll stick with my trusted Kenda tires.
All this "talk" and what they "feel" would never be permitted in a court when you are sued in an accident using car tires.
Vehicles involved in serious accidents involving death or likely to die always get impounded and investigated by insurance companies.
They do this because claims are very expensive and they are looking to void your insurance claiming you violated the contract.
"Legalities" are everything when everything you own becomes someone else's. nojoke
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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Does anyone know what lamont does or recommends?
Bob Denman
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Nobody is telling you that you've GOT to change.
They're just saying that the World won't end; if you do! :thumbup:
Until someone shows me an actual test conducted that would be permitted in a court I'll stick with my trusted Kenda tires.
All this "talk" and what they "feel" would never be permitted in a court when you are sued in an accident using car tires.
Vehicles involved in serious accidents involving death or likely to die always get impounded and investigated by insurance companies.
They do this because claims are very expensive and they are looking to void your insurance claiming you violated the contract.
"All this "talk" and what they "feel" would never be permitted in a court when you are sued in an accident using car tires.
Vehicles involved in serious accidents involving death or likely to die always get impounded and investigated by insurance companies.
They do this because claims are very expensive and they are looking to void your insurance claiming you violated the contract.
Nobody is telling you that you've GOT to change.
They're just saying that the World won't end; if you do! :thumbup:
Raprider
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Probably not.
Will he testify in court for you?
Will he be allowed to testify in a court?
Will he be willing to risk his business giving bad advice?
What Lamont does personally versus professionally will never be discussed on this forum, none of us will. :thumbup:
None of those babbling about tires on this forum are tire engineers and as such are not professionals in this field.
If they were they could be sued for giving "bad advice".
Will he testify in court for you?
Will he be allowed to testify in a court?
Will he be willing to risk his business giving bad advice?
What Lamont does personally versus professionally will never be discussed on this forum, none of us will. :thumbup:
None of those babbling about tires on this forum are tire engineers and as such are not professionals in this field.
If they were they could be sued for giving "bad advice".
Bob Denman
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You're the first person I've ever known, that has used the term "logical" anywhere near our Court System! :roflblack:
And no: Insurance companies can't void your coverage for using automotive tires on your Spyder... nojoke
What are your credentials for making this claim? Are you an engineer or an attorney?
IdahoMtnSpyder
Active member
What is needed is for the rim manufacturer, whoever that is, to certify that the rim is designed in accordance with such and such rim profile standard recognized by the Tire and Rim Association. If they would certify the Spyder rim is designed to the same profile as a passenger car tire then there would be no question about the legality or advisability of putting a car tire on a Spyder rim. If that certification has not been made by the wheel manufacturer then Kenda must have certified their tire as fitting the Spyder rim.
I just sent a request to Kenda to provide me with the information about which rims and rim profiles the Spyder tires are certified to fit. We'll see what happens.
Bob Denman
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You can tell the differences with just a glance... nojoke
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