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The 3 wheeled cycle market just got more interesting

There are two 'motorcycle' markets that BRP Spyders don't cater for:

Adventure Bikes
Several issues here:
  • Belt drive on the Spyder is never going to be off-road friendly
  • Nanny setup + car rear tire isn't configured to handle spirited off-road riding (I've tried;-)).
  • Higher ride height would mean leaning version is required for stability
  • They already have a range of quads/side-by-sides for the off-road market so wouldn't want to poach customers, problem is these are not suitable on-road.

Sports/Sports Tourer
Originally this was covered by the GS/RS, with the ST being OOTB Sports Tourer. There's currently nothing in the lineup that covers that, the F3 variants being 'cruiser' based with a sitting position to match.

Looking at the photos in that article it would suggest Yamaha may be targeting both those gaps.
 
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Culpjp said:
When I was at Homecoming, I noticed that one of the patents on display was for a leaning system. Just because BRP hasn't released one doesn't mean they haven't designed one. Who knows it could be the 10K Spyder coming for 2019.
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just my opinion, but wrongo bongo
 
While there might be a segment that would want a leaning 3 wheeler, count me out. The point of lean is finite, I mean that past some point the geometry will lock up and not go past that lean angle. Exceed that and bad things will happen. If I want a leaning bike, it's a two wheeler that I can drag a knee. The Spyder is for more sedate riding, and I've got both sides covered, with neither being a compromise.
 
asp125 said:
...... The Spyder is even better at the fast & exciting riding than many 2 wheelers AND YET still allows for more sedate riding, so I've got both sides covered, with neither being a compromise.
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Fixed it for you asp125! :thumbup:

And you are right, if you really want a bike that leans, there are already lots of great 2 wheeler examples out there, why wouldn't you?? :dontknow:

But then, depending on the effort you want to put in or the way you want to ryde today, the Spyder can handle the fast & exciting and the sedate & gentle and is up for soo much more besides - the only real limitation is you & the way you want to ryde! ;) Altho I'd still like a turbo & a more relaxed nanny...... :rolleyes:
 
My initial concerns relate to durability and mechanical complexity. If it's a complex solution, it may be more fussy to maintain. The Spyder's current suspension draws from many years of automotive suspensions and chassis design; it's pretty straightforward and thus easy to make sturdy and durable. Who knows? Maybe durability won't be an issue. Perhaps the solution isn't as hard as I imagine.

However, if the bike leans, you're right back to the relatively shorter life of regular motorcycle tires -- and now you have to pony up for three, not two. Quality motorcycle tires ain't cheap.

Finally, looking at those designs, there's no room for a frunk, so maybe the Spyder will retain the edge for cargo capacity. And towing ability.
 
Sturgis reverse trike kit

Have any of you seen the Sturgis reverse trike kit thats being installed on the Honda Goldwings? It's amazing how much they look like the Can Am Spyder!
The Sturgis website is not in English, but check out Gene's Gallery in Springfield,MO. to see pics and get info. It might be fun to visit Gene's while down at SpyderFest in May.
We're interested to see them and may trade the Spyder for one eventually, primarily because of Honda's track record for reliability which I'm not sure Can Am can beat.
We love our 2015 RT Limited, but have been discouraged this past riding season with our oil leak issues (which are hopefully fixed now, but will have to wait for Spring to be sure)

Check 'em out and let me know what y'all think!
 
Sturgis reverse trike kit

SPYD3R said:
SORRY, but this just doesn't compete with our SPYD3RS......
those front wheels need to be connected to a Double-Wish-Bone configuration to compete.... until a manufacturer comes out with a similar configuration, i'm not interested....
i truly hope that :bowdown: HONDA View attachment 156820 is researching a direct competitor to BRP's creation.... :yes:
Dan P
SPYD3R
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IMHO the Yamahas are really awful looking. We do like the looks of the Sturgis reverse trike its installed on the Honda Goldwings. Look very much like the Spyder!
 
Chupaca said:
Still these models are like the threewheeled scooters. They have a very narrow stance with a massive amount of suspension parts up front..:dontknow: I personally don't want a three wheel leaner. I would go back to two wheels you loose all the benefits ...
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:agree:

asp125 said:
. . . The Spyder is for more sedate riding, . . .
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Speake for yourself. :lecturef_smilie: I don't ryde sedate! I'd challenge any 3-wheel leaner to beat me in the twisties.
 
PrairieSpyder said:
:agree:



Speake for yourself. :lecturef_smilie: I don't ryde sedate! I'd challenge any 3-wheel leaner to beat me in the twisties.
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Sedate for ME, compared to my GSXR. I've never been able to beat my 2 wheeled time up one stretch of local twisties on a Spyder. 600lbs Spyder vs 424lb sportbike?

Yes the Spyder can be faster than most all cruisers and other non-race reps. We've beaten that one to death before.
:bdh:
 
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Roadster

Rob Rodriguez said:
Saw this article at Spyder Life Magazine. http://www.financialexpress.com/aut...eup-buys-patent-for-brudeli-leanster/1002602/

Looks like Yamaha will now have 3 reverse trike type models soon. I have to think Honda will be close behind since they have been showing concept bikes the last few years.

What I find interesting.....Both Honda and Yamaha are showing, and in Yamaha's case building, 3 wheeled, reverse trike designs that lean. How long and how many people have been on this forum asking for BRP to have a leaning Spyder? I'm not sure why BRP has such a reluctance to building leaning and performance minded Spyders but this may finally force them to do so.
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you have your TRIKE, one wheel in front 2 in back, then you have a ROADSTER, 2 wheels in front , 1 in back.. Reverse trike? I did have a person asking who is riding the "tri-pod looking thingy", that is my favorite reference to the Spyder as of now..
 
opiewhan said:
you have your TRIKE, one wheel in front 2 in back, then you have a ROADSTER, 2 wheels in front , 1 in back.. Reverse trike? I did have a person asking who is riding the "tri-pod looking thingy", that is my favorite reference to the Spyder as of now..
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A trike with two wheels in front is a reverse trike also called a tadpole trike.
The Spyder is a reverse trike. The "roadster" name was given it by BRP.

Some interesting reading here:
http://www.reversetrike.com/
 
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IdahoMtnSpyder said:
Showing at CES this week. Not a competitor to the Spyder but will be to the Slingshot for those who want something more classy. The Vanderhall all electric Edison2 was brought out last November. More info here: https://electrek.co/2018/01/08/all-electric-vanderhall-motor-edison-three-wheeler/ and https://vanderhallusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Vanderhall-Edison-PressRelease-v1.pdf
 Vanderhalls are front wheel drive.

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They sure look better than a Slingshot.
The gas engine ones have been out for a while. And at 30 to 50 thou., they aren't cheap.
Would be interesting to see what the front wheel drive is like.
The top of the line has AC. In an open cockpit, I wonder how that works?
A limited dealer network (27) for now. But that will likely change if they catch on.
https://vanderhallusa.com/
 
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SpyderBears said:
Have any of you seen the Sturgis reverse trike kit thats being installed on the Honda Goldwings? It's amazing how much they look like the Can Am Spyder!
The Sturgis website is not in English, but check out Gene's Gallery in Springfield,MO. to see pics and get info. It might be fun to visit Gene's while down at SpyderFest in May.
We're interested to see them and may trade the Spyder for one eventually, primarily because of Honda's track record for reliability which I'm not sure Can Am can beat.
We love our 2015 RT Limited, but have been discouraged this past riding season with our oil leak issues (which are hopefully fixed now, but will have to wait for Spring to be sure)

Check 'em out and let me know what y'all think!
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when I was a vendor at last years Honda wing ding genes gallery was there with there trikes very nice looks similar to the spyder only downfall no storage you will definetly need a trailer for the wing its my understanding you still need to purchase a wing then take it in for the mod which by the way wasn't cheap so your looking at around 40k.
 
Chupaca said:
Still these models are like the threewheeled scooters. They have a very narrow stance with a massive amount of suspension parts up front..:dontknow: I personally don't want a three wheel leaner. I would go back to two wheels you loose all the benefits ...
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I dont understand your comment Chupaca, you lost all the benefits of two wheeling when you bought a planar suspension Spyder, anything else containing leaning that is effective is a move towards two wheeling?? :dontknow::dontknow:
 
asp125 said:
While there might be a segment that would want a leaning 3 wheeler, count me out. The point of lean is finite, I mean that past some point the geometry will lock up and not go past that lean angle. Exceed that and bad things will happen. If I want a leaning bike, it's a two wheeler that I can drag a knee. The Spyder is for more sedate riding, and I've got both sides covered, with neither being a compromise.
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You drag your hand like this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iyTa6XLTLKY#

Also check out Pikes Peak run, do you ride your two wheels more agressively? Cant suggest you would on roads.
Things will only improve from there.
 
asp125 said:
While there might be a segment that would want a leaning 3 wheeler, count me out. The point of lean is finite, I mean that past some point the geometry will lock up and not go past that lean angle. Exceed that and bad things will happen. If I want a leaning bike, it's a two wheeler that I can drag a knee. The Spyder is for more sedate riding, and I've got both sides covered, with neither being a compromise.
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The Tilting Motor Works reverse trike conversion allows a Goldwing to lean as far as it does without the conversion.
 
This made me laugh

gnorthern said:
And the Spyder isn't? My oldest daughter called it a dorky old man batmobile.
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I read this and just laughed out loud!! I guess that I fit the first part of that description! But, I didn't know that my Spyder was as cool as the Batmobile...

Orange trim batmobile.jpg
 
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