HDX replaced breather tube

[Smylinacha]

HDX changed the oil on the :spyder:today. Used Redline.
Lots of oil in the airbox which he didn't like so we went to the auto parts store and he got a new hose. Removed the old one, put the new one on so it snakes around the airbox and then goes down thru the bottom pan.

HDX washed the engine w/ S&S because it was filthy from oil and cr@p.

New green filter compared to old one.

Side by side comparison

 

[BajaRon]

Not sure I'm getting the picture on this (though you have many pictures so it's probably me).

But does this vent to open air?

 

[SpyderGirl]

I could be wrong but won't you end up with oil draining out of that hole onto the ground? I would think that's a environmental issue... just a thought. I installed the oil catch can and breather filter on mine over the weekend.

 

[BajaRon]

I could be wrong but won't you end up with oil draining out of that hole onto the ground? I would think that's a environmental issue... just a thought. I installed the oil catch can and breather filter on mine over the weekend.

Ok, at least we both have the same impression that it is an open line exiting into open air.

If there is no filtration on that hose it is possible for dirt or other foriegn matter to get into the system. That long a hose will also invite condensation to run back into the oil.

I'm not sure this is a great idea.

 

[Smylinacha]

Not sure I'm getting the picture on this (though you have many pictures so it's probably me).

But does this vent to open air?

Yup it does

 

[Smylinacha]

Ok, at least we both have the same impression that it is an open line exiting into open air.

If there is no filtration on that hose it is possible for dirt or other foriegn matter to get into the system. That long a hose will also invite condensation to run back into the oil.

I'm not sure this is a great idea.

HDX can explain it better than me. So when he gets home later, he'll read this. Right now it's better than all that oil in my airbox - it was bad in there!

 

[BajaRon]

HDX can explain it better than me. So when he gets home later, he'll read this. Right now it's better than all that oil in my airbox - it was bad in there!

Oil in the airbox is not good and there is no reason for it to be there. But neither is it the end of the world.

They run that vent into the airbox for several reasons. One is so the environment (air) going back into the vent is clean. I would not bypass that feature.

There are other, very easy and clean ways to fix the Oil in the Airbox issue that you might want to consider.

 

[Smylinacha]

Oil in the airbox is not good and there is no reason for it to be there. But neither is it the end of the world.

They run that vent into the airbox for several reasons. One is so the environment (air) going back into the vent is clean. I would not bypass that feature.

There are other, very easy and clean ways to fix the Oil in the Airbox issue that you might want to consider.

But if oil kept going in there and it got worse (which it was since the last time he checked it) then it's not good for the filter in there. Specially when I spent all that money on the green one w/ the cleaning kit.

 

[BajaRon]

But if oil kept going in there and it got worse (which it was since the last time he checked it) then it's not good for the filter in there. Specially when I spent all that money on the green one w/ the cleaning kit.

Isn't the green filter an oil suspension type?

 

[RoadHammer]

That's easier than the a catch can mod. I like it"click:

 

[truck 85]

i like the red line but could not find any 5w40 what did you use for your oil change?

 

[BajaRon]

i like the red line but could not find any 5w40 what did you use for your oil change?

5w-40 is not critical. Viscosity measurement and consistancy isn't always that great across the variouis brands anyway. There are 5w-40 oils that, when tested, do not meet the specs. even right out of the bottle, much less after a few thousand miles.

10w-40 is just fine in the Spyder and that's what I use in mine (AmsOil). AmsOil is tested as extensively or more so than any other oil out there and they always meet their specs.

Plus the fact that the wider the spread between the low number and the high number the more modifiers have to be added to the oil. High quaility modifiers are expensive and some oil manufacturers skimp here. While an oil may meet specs. when new, it may not be long before it doesn't.

You don't really want modifiers, you want oil. So a narrower spread is usually a longer lasting product.

Good oils, like AmsOil and others, maintain their rated specs. a lot longer.

There is much more to oil than the numbers on the outside of the bottle.

 

[Campverdefela]

Venting to atmosphere is not a new idea. We've been doing it on Harleys since they went to the head breather/fill your intake with oil system years ago. The intent is not to cover the ground with oil, rather it's to keep the oil in the crankcase. The much higher vertical rise of the new breather tube allows the oil mist held in suspension to fall out before it gets to the highest point, and cling to the inner wall of the vent line, allowing it to run back into the crankcase.....With a 5' lineal run, combined with 3' of vertical rise from the open end, I'm not concerned about introducing foreign matter into the system. Not gonna happen. Neither will it invite any more condensation than what normally occurs. Been running my HD's this way for years, only get an occasoinal drop from the vent tube(much less than I just washed off the airbox and engine on Smylinacha's bike with the stock EPA approved setup:gaah.

Not sayin' my way is any better than the other mod's that are also being used for this issue, but it's worked for me in the past, and it's maintainence free. No hot, oily crankcase vapors in the intake, and no catch cans to empty.

:2thumbs: Great solution, thanks....

 

[aubierules]

From here........

http://www.myoilshop.com/

how bout WD 40?:yikes:

***JUST A JOKE*** kids dont try this at home

 

[truck 85]

how bout WD 40?:yikes:

***JUST A JOKE*** kids dont try this at home

LOL :2thumbs::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

 

[Firefly]

Oil in the airbox is not good and there is no reason for it to be there. But neither is it the end of the world.

They run that vent into the airbox for several reasons. One is so the environment (air) going back into the vent is clean. I would not bypass that feature.

There are other, very easy and clean ways to fix the Oil in the Airbox issue that you might want to consider.

:agree:

Should at least put an in-line filter - but preferably a catch-can system.

 

[krb1945]

HDX... did you...

put a foam filter in the vent hose at the highest point? If you didn't you might consider it because that would stop any oil loss through the tube. Only the fumes would get through.

As you know I am now using a short clear tube and as of this time with the foam inserted I get no oil in the air box. And yes, I use a fuel system screen on each of the foam just as insurance. /Ken

 

[krb1945]

Have you seen the youtube...

on inflating a tire with WD40? It works every time. /Ken

 

[Firefly]

on inflating a tire with WD40? It works every time. /Ken

Yup--- done that plenty of times on tractors using starter fluid, WD-40, etc.

Works like a charm.