girl convicted Friday of involuntary manslaughter

[cuznjohn]

TAUNTON, Mass. – A woman who sent her boyfriend a barrage of text messages urging him to kill himself when they were both teenagers was convicted Friday of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that raised questions about whether words can kill.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/16/judge-set-to-announce-verdict-in-texting-suicide-case.html

THIS STORY REMINDS ME OF MANY YEARS AGO, it was in a news paper somewhere that a mother had a son with O C D . every day he would wash his hands so many times that he had to quit school because they couldn't take care of him there, and the other kids teased him all the time. as the kid was living home, he would never go out, he would just do study's and constantly wash his hands. as time went on he was slowly going crazy and loosing his mind. one day he started telling his mom that he wanted to die. they started ignoring him. i don't remember if they brought him to a doctor. but every day all he kept saying is he wanted to kill himself.
well after after a long time of him telling his mom this, one day she told him TO GO AHEAD AND KILL HIMSELF. after a little she heard a loud shot come from the kids room. turns out he went into his dads room, took his dads 22 rifle, loaded it, put the gun under his chin, and pulled the trigger. shocked mom called the police, no 911 at the time, and they rushed him to the hospital. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, the kid did not die, turns out that when he shot himself. the bullet hit the spot of his brain that caused the O C D in him, and cured him of it. long story story short, he went on to finish school, go to collage, and to become a lawyer, and to try to help people with O C D. also his mom was never charged with anything

 

[Bob Denman]

Back to this case...
Justice has been served, and now we just have to see what her sentencing looks like...

 

[Slowpoke387]

TAUNTON, Mass. – A woman who sent her boyfriend a barrage of text messages urging him to kill himself when they were both teenagers was convicted Friday of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that raised questions about whether words can kill.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/16/judge-set-to-announce-verdict-in-texting-suicide-case.html

THIS STORY REMINDS ME OF MANY YEARS AGO, it was in a news paper somewhere that a mother had a son with O C D . every day he would wash his hands so many times that he had to quit school because they couldn't take care of him there, and the other kids teased him all the time. as the kid was living home, he would never go out, he would just do study's and constantly wash his hands. as time went on he was slowly going crazy and loosing his mind. one day he started telling his mom that he wanted to die. they started ignoring him. i don't remember if they brought him to a doctor. but every day all he kept saying is he wanted to kill himself.
well after after a long time of him telling his mom this, one day she told him TO GO AHEAD AND KILL HIMSELF. after a little she heard a loud shot come from the kids room. turns out he went into his dads room, took his dads 22 rifle, loaded it, put the gun under his chin, and pulled the trigger. shocked mom called the police, no 911 at the time, and they rushed him to the hospital. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, the kid did not die, turns out that when he shot himself. the bullet hit the spot of his brain that caused the O C D in him, and cured him of it. long story story short, he went on to finish school, go to collage, and to become a lawyer, and to try to help people with O C D. also his mom was never charged with anything

cmon really? This is real?

And yeah im curious to find out what sentence is imposed. That girl is evil. Her texts were unbelievable, the poor kid got scared and actually got out of the truck to bail out and she actually convinced him to get back in and finish it. Thats evil.

 

[cuznjohn]

i have remembered this story for years. if i was kidding i would hint to it. it is a story from way back when. also one of my sisters girlfriends tried to kill herself because her husband wanted to leave her. she also took a 22 rifle and shot herself in the side of the head. her name is Carrol, she also lived, but is now blind and re married. she now lives down south with her new husband. again, trust me i didn't lie about the story, i have been telling it for years

 

[ARtraveler]

Hope she gets what she deserves and has a nice long sentence to think about it each and every day. :thumbup:

 

[UtahPete]

Back to this case...
Justice has been served, and now we just have to see what her sentencing looks like...

To be more accurate, a verdict has been delivered. Justice won't be served until sentencing, if then.

 

[gkamer]

Knowing the state of juvenile justice

They always talk about what a criminal is facing. She's facing 20 years. No, that's the maximum sentence. Someone with no criminal records is not facing anything close to 20 years. From that I've seen of the juvenile justice system today, she will probably be sentenced to a 5 week time out in juvenile hall. And a sealed record when she turns 21.

 

[Bob Denman]

I guess that I haven't followed this mess all that closely... pps:
Was this tried in Juvenile Court; or in an Adult one?
(She was 17 when she committed the crime...)

 

[vided]

Good memory cuzn

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/25/us/brain-wound-eliminates-man-s-mental-illness.html

 

[gkamer]

She was tried in juvenile court

I guess that I haven't followed this mess all that closely... pps:
Was this tried in Juvenile Court; or in an Adult one?
(She was 17 when she committed the crime...)

Because she was 17 when this happened, she was tried in juvenile court.

 

[Bob Denman]

:thumbup:

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

To be more accurate, a verdict has been delivered. Justice won't be served until sentencing, if then.

justice will never truly be served, the kid is dead & we pay to keep her in jail

 

[Tazzel]

sorry guys, my belief is you have to take responsibility for your own actions. He took his own life it is on him, his choice and his right.

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: You are correct... He's the one that stayed in the garage.
It gets confusing because it has been reported that he said that he "was scared", and she convinced him to continue with the plan... :dontknow:

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

sorry guys, my belief is you have to take responsibility for your own actions. He took his own life it is on him, his choice and his right.

i agree but she pushed the limit and has to take responsibility. much like a post on this forum you don't like, just avoid it and
don't respond.

 

[Slowpoke387]

:shocked: You are correct... He's the one that stayed in the garage.
It gets confusing because it has been reported that he said that he "was scared", and she convinced him to continue with the plan... :dontknow:

Was actually inside his truck with a gas powered generator running in the back seat. He was reported to have been scared to do it and got out. She actually coaxed him back into it. Yeah ultimately it was his decision but she obviously had some control over him at that point. She def couldve swayed him into staying out of the truck.
In the end he was a troubled kid with depression and may have attempted it again at some point but the issue was this occurance. She def had a hand in it and talked him into getting back in. In my mind she has some responsibility in this. I mean cmon, she talked into getting back into the truck and actually said "finish it".

 

[UtahPete]

sorry guys, my belief is you have to take responsibility for your own actions. He took his own life it is on him, his choice and his right.

The mentally ill can't be said to be making rational choices. He has the 'right' to expect that fellow humans will understand that and guide him out of danger, not push him into it.

Speaking from experience here.

 

[kep-up]

IMHO, making this girl criminally responsible for something she said, no matter how reprehensible, is another slide down the slippery slope. Ie, "hate crimes". How can a murder be worse because because the murderer hated the person he killed? It can't.

The slippery slope to which I refer is the control of speech and assuming to know the thoughts in one's mind and controlling our thinking of those thoughts. And I doubt that there is one of us on this forum who hasn't had some really ugly thoughts about another human from time to time. On the slope, those thoughts might get you charged with a criminal act.

Just sayin'.................

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: This is where it gets real... sticky! :yikes:
This is in no way a "Freedom of Speech" issue.
By directing him to complete an action that would end in his death (After he had expressed his reluctance to do it...); she clearly crossed the line...
Was the kid a mess anyway?
Hell yes!
If not this time: would he have been successful the next time?
:dontknow:
But as a person who was in need of help: he didn't need anyone handing him match, as he stood on top of the unlit bonfire...

 

[UtahPete]

IMHO, making this girl criminally responsible for something she said, no matter how reprehensible, is another slide down the slippery slope. Ie, "hate crimes". How can a murder be worse because because the murderer hated the person he killed? It can't.

The slippery slope to which I refer is the control of speech and assuming to know the thoughts in one's mind and controlling our thinking of those thoughts. And I doubt that there is one of us on this forum who hasn't had some really ugly thoughts about another human from time to time. On the slope, those thoughts might get you charged with a criminal act.

She was convicted by a jury of her peers for her choice of actions to take when another person's life was obviously in danger; rather than discourage his suicide attempts she belittled and bullied him into taking his life. That's not a 1st amendment issue.