THE NEW TV AD FOR WGANER BRAKE PADS

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I love this ad .... it's dramatic !!! ....the one where the two ladies are driving down the road looking at each other :banghead: and then slam on their Brakes with one car hitting the truck ........ and I want to tell you it applies to more than Brake pads ...... It also applies to TIRE Air Pressure ...... I know I'm like a broken record about this, but I'm just trying to save lives ...... When you put a REAL car tire on your Spyder , you need to realize that this car tire was designed to support much heavier loads ....... so 15-17 psi on the front and 20-21 psi on the rear ( even when fully loaded ) is perfect ..... The tire needs to flex, so the water " sipes " work at their optimum giving you the most traction the tire can give... Ride safe ,ride happy ..... Mike :thumbup:

 

[Peter Aawen]

But regardless of who thinks he might sound like a broken record, Mike is absolutely right!! :lecturef_smilie:

The tread blocks & sipes on your tires will act like little fingers grabbing onto the road IF the tires aren't pumped up so hard that they can't flex at all, & if the tire you are running can handle over 1000 pounds @ about 30psi & flex appropriately, while our Spyders only put 300 odd onto them, you need to run less pressure in them than you would if they were fitted on a car!! That 15-17psi for the fronts & 20-21 psi for the rear is gonna be perfect for pretty much all Spyder Ryders running any proper car tires that fit instead of those 'special' Kenda tires that are labelled that way cos they can't safely carry anything heavier! :thumbup:




This comment is coming directly to you from the flip side of Mike's broken record!

 

[papanorm]

Would that apply to those who went to 175's up front as well?

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

CAR TIRE SIZES

Would that apply to those who went to 175's up front as well?

Norm, our Spyders ( any of them ) really have a limited range of sizes that will fit the rims and or fenders. So the possibilities of tire choices aren't going to include a large variance in the OVER-ALL specs for those tires ..... normal car tires have a load range between 1100 & 1500 lbs per tire ....... so these far exceed the requirements of any Spyder even if fully loaded or slightly over-loaded and pulling a full trailer ..... trust me , I'm not guessing on this............ Try the Lower pressure, I promise nothing bad will happen. I think you will like the results, especially if you are on WET pavement ( and this is where you need traction the most ) ....... Mike :thumbup:

 

[Peter Aawen]

Spot on Mike! :thumbup:

A bit more for those running 175's up front (like me... only mine are 175/60R15's!) it might help if you understand that not only do the 'stronger & heavier' tires need less air in them to let them flex enough to work properly, but also the bigger the volume of air the tire will hold inside it then the LESS air pressure you actually need in it to carry a given static load than is necessary in a tire with a smaller volume/capacity!! Which means that bigger & stronger tires require that lower pressure range to carry the same load for more than just one reason!

So papanorm, since you've gone for a bigger capacity tire AND a car tire (not that you have a great deal of choice!) maybe you should start on the lower end of that pressure range & adjust to your preferences - like I have!

 

[papanorm]

Thanks guys! I was following prior posts recommendations for 19lbs. Because of the 175/55's rubbing on the fenders. If this is not an issue, then I will gladly lower the pressure.

 

[Bob Denman]

Mike...
Glad to see that you're back, and feeling better! :clap: :thumbup:
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But that ad is misleading. :shocked:
Brake pads don't decide the eventual stopping distances of a vehicle anymore...
The ABS does, and that's much more a function of the grip of the tire...

After all: Almost any decent pads can grip the rotors hard enough to lock the wheel! nojoke

Wagner created an impressive-looking advertisement, that really has nbothing to do with their product.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WELLLLLLL NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT

Mike...
Glad to see that you're back, and feeling better! :clap: :thumbup:
\
But that ad is misleading. :shocked:
Brake pads don't decide the eventual stopping distances of a vehicle anymore...
The ABS does, and that's much more a function of the grip of the tire...

After all: Almost any decent pads can grip the rotors hard enough to lock the wheel! nojoke

Wagner created an impressive-looking advertisement, that really has nbothing to do with their product.

Actually I'm not back :yikes: ..... I just have some lucid moments when the Oxy isn't at full throttle :roflblack: ..... I only feel OK when the Damn stone is asleep :banghead::banghead::banghead: .......... But you are right about the Ad it is deceiving ....I only used it because it was dramatic ....... But TRACTION DOES MATTER ............... Everyone should understand how the PSI in the Spyders tires can work for or against you ........ Mike :thumbup:

 

[Steamer]

Thanks guys! I was following prior posts recommendations for 19lbs. Because of the 175/55's rubbing on the fenders. If this is not an issue, then I will gladly lower the pressure.

I am installing Hankook Ventus 4 175/55-15 on my 2015 F3. I intend to follow the recommendation with lower tire pressure-15/16 psi.
Is there an issue with the tire rubbing on the fender????
My previous inquiries indicated that this size tire was appropriate for my model and year.

 

[Brentc]

I had a different take

If the two women had kept their eyes on the road instead of each other, would we have had a need for that commercial?

Now back to your regularly scheduled tire vs brake pad discussion!

 

[2dogs]

Aother way.......

To determine proper tire inflation use one of those large pieces of white chalk and draw a wide mark across the tire tread. Drive in a straight line for a distance and then check the chalk mark to see how much of it is worn off and how much of it is still on the tire. Ideal tire pressure would be when the chalk line is worn off evenly across the tread of the tire. Some thing to remember, during any given day tire pressures can change as little as 2 lbs. to as much as 5 lbs. or more, depending many outside influences. Tire manufactures test their products to determine the proper inflation for a given application. Some applications have very broad parameters and others have very few. When exceeding those recommended parameters you risk losing benefits such as traction (wet or dry) longevity and performance. The chalk line idea just is an old school technique to give you a little indication of what's happening when the rubber meets the road.

 

[Steamer]

To determine proper tire inflation use one of those large pieces of white chalk and draw a wide mark across the tire tread. Drive in a straight line for a distance and then check the chalk mark to see how much of it is worn off and how much of it is still on the tire. Ideal tire pressure would be when the chalk line is worn off evenly across the tread of the tire. Some thing to remember, during any given day tire pressures can change as little as 2 lbs. to as much as 5 lbs. or more, depending many outside influences. Tire manufactures test their products to determine the proper inflation for a given application. Some applications have very broad parameters and others have very few. When exceeding those recommended parameters you risk losing benefits such as traction (wet or dry) longevity and performance. The chalk line idea just is an old school technique to give you a little indication of what's happening when the rubber meets the road.

Good idea. Gonna do this when I get my new tires next week. Will,leave the dealership with 16 psi front and 24 rear on the new tire.

 

[2dogs]

When they'er mounting your new tires.........

Good idea. Gonna do this when I get my new tires next week. Will,leave the dealership with 16 psi front and 24 rear on the new tire.

Put your old one and the new one side by side and compare the stiffness of the sidewalls and tread.

 

[Bob Denman]

To determine proper tire inflation use one of those large pieces of white chalk and draw a wide mark across the tire tread. Drive in a straight line for a distance and then check the chalk mark to see how much of it is worn off and how much of it is still on the tire. Ideal tire pressure would be when the chalk line is worn off evenly across the tread of the tire. Some thing to remember, during any given day tire pressures can change as little as 2 lbs. to as much as 5 lbs. or more, depending many outside influences. Tire manufactures test their products to determine the proper inflation for a given application. Some applications have very broad parameters and others have very few. When exceeding those recommended parameters you risk losing benefits such as traction (wet or dry) longevity and performance. The chalk line idea just is an old school technique to give you a little indication of what's happening when the rubber meets the road.

:agree:

 

[Bob Denman]

Actually I'm not back :yikes: ..... I just have some lucid moments when the Oxy isn't at full throttle :roflblack: .....

The next time that the Oxy takes away your reality: play this video, and enjoy the ride! :2thumbs: