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New Member with Important Question

Hellooooo Spyderlover Folk!

My wife and I have been riding 2 wheeled bikes for years, and are highly considering moving to a trike. The Syder RT Limited is the trike we are most interested in. It appears right now is the time to buy one, with dealers across the country deeply discounting their 2016 models. We have test ridden an RT twice, and really like the overall design and technology that it offers.

Even though we are highly interested and considering pulling the trigger, there is an important question that keeps rolling around in my head. That question is; How reliable and trouble free are the Syder RT's? We have ridden Yamaha's for years, and have had incredible service from them. We have travelled all over the nation on our Royal Star Tour Deluxe, and have never been stranded, or even had to stop our trips to take care of anything that has went wrong with the bike. Last year, Consumer Reports published their 1st ever motorcycle quality and reliability study. Because we have had such strong reliability from our Yamaha bike, I wasn't surprised to see that CR rated Yamaha #1 as the most reliable brand. But, what gives me some concern is, they rated Can Am at the very bottom of all brands. I don't want to base my buying decision solely on a magazine article, so I thought I would ask all of you who live in the Spyder world to enlighten me on the real world reliabilities of this bike. I do not personally know anybody who owns one, so your opinions will be heavily weighted in my decision.

Thanks in an advance for your input.

Big Lenny

:welcome:

I'd ask how the CR ranking was calculated. Is it for a range of years? Or just a single year from a certain number of years back? What considerations went into the ranking? Like others have said, BRP has had a steep improvement in the RT since its inception in 2010. Of the pre-2014 models, the 2012 has a great reputation. But beginning with 2014 they have a larger engine, longer service interval and great reliability, IMHO. If you're looking at a left-over 2016, you will be getting a good machine.

I hope you'll stay in touch and let us know what you decide. If you buy a Spyder, don't forget we really like pics here.
 
Hey Everyone,

Thanks so much for the feedback. It is really great info that is helping soothe my concerns about the Can Am product.

As far as the perimeters of the Consumer Reports reliability article, I can't really remember all of the exact perimeters, I just remember Yamaha was ranked #1, and Can Am was rank at the bottom, with BMW ranked next to the bottom. The crazy thing is, the owner satisfaction ranking had Can Am and BMW up in the middle to top tier. So, it was saying, while Can Am and BMW aren't exactly the most reliable, their owners love them and would buy them again. Yamaha was ranked at the top of reliability, but toward the bottom of owner satisfaction.

My wife and I are in our mid 50's and don't really have to stop riding 2 wheels, but, we've been giving some thought to how long we've been riding without ever putting our bike down, and the safety factor of being on 3 wheels is starting appeal to us. Another thing that is kind of tossing around in our noggins is; I am a heart patient who has had 3 heart procedures. If we were to be out in the middle of nowhere on our bike, and I had a health issue, we're gonna be stuck. Where as, if we had the Spyder, she would actually be able to drive it and get us to some help. Just a thought.

Keep the comments coming. They're helping our thought process.

Thanks again.

Big Lenny
 
Bob Denman gave you the "short answer" directly above, and it was the correct answer. :thumbup: I'll expand on it a little, as I am more verbose than he. ;)

I also moved up from a big Yamaha (Royal Star Venture) into my Spyder RT Limited when I needed to move from two wheels to three. I rode the Yamaha for the last 10 years. The truth is a CanAm is not going to be as high on the "reliability scale" as a Yamaha. Few bikes are. And the CanAm is a MUCH more complex machine, which is mostly what lends to it's reliability ratings in those magazine surveys. However, if you need or want a trike at this point, you are not going to find any that are going to be rock solid machines 100% of the time. And you could do FAR worse in a trike than buying an RT Limited. But it's impossible to have more fun on any other trike.

I have absolutely NO regrets, and have ridden thousands of trouble-free miles on my 2013 RT Limited. The same is the case for most RT owners - especially with the newest ones. This is true despite the fact that there are some reported problems that CanAm is working to resolve - the most reported one being the occasional fault that crops up with the DESS (Digital Electronic Security key System). The majority of RT's never exhibit the problem.

But here is really the bottom line... While any bike can occasionally give you a problem or two, there is ABSOLUTELY no trike that is more FUN to ride than the CanAm. It will keep the wind on your helmet for many more years to come. It is fast, exhilarating, and an absolute pleasure to ride. I promise you (as will hundreds of other members here) that you will be very glad you bought one. And that really IS the only piece of the equation that matters, right?

So again... Just buy the damn bike. :thumbup: ;)

Robmorg,

Since you have experienced the Yamaha product, and specifically the Venture, which is the same bike as my Tour Deluxe, you certainly understand my issue. I think we need to look strongly at moving to a trike, and in particular the Spyder, but leaving such an awesome, quality built product like the Venture/Tour Deluxe kinda makes me look close at what will be replacing it. The V4 motor that is in the Venture/Tour Deluxe is one the all time most reliable motorcycle power plants ever built.

I truly believe, as you stated, there is no trike that is more fun to ride than the CanAm.
 
:welcome:

Advise on the RT's look for a 2014 and up they have the 1330 triple ace engine,( produces high-torque response in every gear and 40% more low-end torque. Low maintance.

My first spyder was a 2012 RTS-SE5, then I upgraded to my current 2014 RTS-SE6( with 16,000 miles). Be sure to look @ the for sale by owner on this site( on the Homepage). Good luck! I would take a test drive first. Post pictures! Deanna
 
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I am on my second Rt a 2011 and how a 2015. I also have had quadruple bypass and 8 stints.
the big thing is the cost of maintance.
Also there a several of use in centeral ark. That ride together .
 
59 year old, been riding since I was 13, Spyder's been the best 2 up riding ever

Hey Everyone,
...
My wife and I are in our mid 50's and don't really have to stop riding 2 wheels, but, we've been giving some thought to how long we've been riding without ever putting our bike down, and the safety factor of being on 3 wheels is starting appeal to us. Another thing that is kind of tossing around in our noggins is; I am a heart patient who has had 3 heart procedures. If we were to be out in the middle of nowhere on our bike, and I had a health issue, we're gonna be stuck. Where as, if we had the Spyder, she would actually be able to drive it and get us to some help. Just a thought.

...
BigLenny Ditto (though only one MI(so far),
We've just celebrated our 27th anniversary, bought our used 2013 RTL in Oct '16 and have enjoyed more miles together this fall than all previous years of riding 2 up. I have driven better single rider bikes (when I was 18-25 years old and invincible..<G>) but as far as us riding together, SWMBO has never been happier, more relaxed and more comfortable riding 2 up. Shoot we even had to finally get a Sena double sound system for our helmets! Sharon's driven it to familiarize herself with it and was again, more comfortable than any of my previous bikes.
Get the Spyder, take your time learning to ride it and just ride....;)
 
Hey, life is short don't sweat the small stuff. I bought a used 2010 RT SM5 and both my wife and I love it. The only thing I have had to do was top off the fluids now and then. Personally I would only buy a manual, I enjoy shifting and it will have less issues plus cost less for oil changes. Also I will not have to be concerned with keeping the RPM up there.

Bottom line buy the ryde you will be glad you did.

:welcome:
Zip, just curious as to why the manual will have less issues than the automatic. Is this a personal opinion or have you had experience with both? I am pretty sure the automatic is just as reliable as the manual and if you want a 14 and up RT it's going to be an auto. I may be wrong on that but I don't think so.
 
Spyder Relability

Hellooooo Spyderlover Folk!

My wife and I have been riding 2 wheeled bikes for years, and are highly considering moving to a trike. The Syder RT Limited is the trike we are most interested in. It appears right now is the time to buy one, with dealers across the country deeply discounting their 2016 models. We have test ridden an RT twice, and really like the overall design and technology that it offers.

Even though we are highly interested and considering pulling the trigger, there is an important question that keeps rolling around in my head. That question is; How reliable and trouble free are the Syder RT's? We have ridden Yamaha's for years, and have had incredible service from them. We have travelled all over the nation on our Royal Star Tour Deluxe, and have never been stranded, or even had to stop our trips to take care of anything that has went wrong with the bike. Last year, Consumer Reports published their 1st ever motorcycle quality and reliability study. Because we have had such strong reliability from our Yamaha bike, I wasn't surprised to see that CR rated Yamaha #1 as the most reliable brand. But, what gives me some concern is, they rated Can Am at the very bottom of all brands. I don't want to base my buying decision solely on a magazine article, so I thought I would ask all of you who live in the Spyder world to enlighten me on the real world reliabilities of this bike. I do not personally know anybody who owns one, so your opinions will be heavily weighted in my decision.

Thanks in an advance for your input.

Big Lenny


Welcome to a new ride.

i was in he same boat as you are, 2 wheels or nothing. But after having two knee surgeries and back surgery this year decided to go to three wheels, based in part on a friend of mine having purchased an RT at the same time that I purchased an Indian Roadmaster. I returned my Indian probably 12-16 times during a two year stretch for issues which put you on the kickstand and he never had one problem which prevented him from riding. Now that doesn't mean he hasn't had occasional glitches, but never once stopped hm from riding when he wanted to. IMHO the Spyder has been much more reliable than any other bike that I, or any of my family members have owned during this two year stretch (8 people) and that covers a wide range of bikes...not Yamaha, but Honda's Harley riders, Kawasaki's, etc.

Eddie
 
Hey Everyone,

Thanks so much for the feedback. It is really great info that is helping soothe my concerns about the Can Am product.

As far as the perimeters of the Consumer Reports reliability article, I can't really remember all of the exact perimeters, I just remember Yamaha was ranked #1, and Can Am was rank at the bottom, with BMW ranked next to the bottom. The crazy thing is, the owner satisfaction ranking had Can Am and BMW up in the middle to top tier. So, it was saying, while Can Am and BMW aren't exactly the most reliable, their owners love them and would buy them again. Yamaha was ranked at the top of reliability, but toward the bottom of owner satisfaction.

My wife and I are in our mid 50's and don't really have to stop riding 2 wheels, but, we've been giving some thought to how long we've been riding without ever putting our bike down, and the safety factor of being on 3 wheels is starting appeal to us. Another thing that is kind of tossing around in our noggins is; I am a heart patient who has had 3 heart procedures. If we were to be out in the middle of nowhere on our bike, and I had a health issue, we're gonna be stuck. Where as, if we had the Spyder, she would actually be able to drive it and get us to some help. Just a thought.

Keep the comments coming. They're helping our thought process.

Thanks again.

Big Lenny
I have in excess of 250K miles on BMWs, 2 of them new. I have very few issues with them. CR is in the business to make money, and controversy sells.
 
RPMs not an issue on the 1330 engine
Manual and Semi Auto available
I have been on Yamaha V4s since 1983. Had an 83 Venture,an 86VR,87VR(still have),88VR 89VR, 08RSTD,08RSVS. After our wreck I went to a Goldwing Trike for 4 years and then a 2012 RTL in 2015. Never looked back. What a fantastic ride. I have put 20,000 miles on it since june 2015 and it has been great. Replaced tires,oi land filters,and brake pads. Very troublefree ride so far. Like the Venture Royales,Royal Stars I ride it and if something comes up I just deal with it and get back to riding. You will really enjoy it we do. Are you a Venturer or a VentureRider?
 
RPMs not an issue on the 1330 engine
Manual and Semi Auto available
I have been on Yamaha V4s since 1983. Had an 83 Venture,an 86VR,87VR(still have),88VR 89VR, 08RSTD,08RSVS. After our wreck I went to a Goldwing Trike for 4 years and then a 2012 RTL in 2015. Never looked back. What a fantastic ride. I have put 20,000 miles on it since june 2015 and it has been great. Replaced tires,oi land filters,and brake pads. Very troublefree ride so far. Like the Venture Royales,Royal Stars I ride it and if something comes up I just deal with it and get back to riding. You will really enjoy it we do. Are you a Venturer or a VentureRider?

Paul,

Glad to hear you're a Yammy V4 lover too. Also, really glad to hear how high you are on the Spyders.

Yes. I'm a VentureRider. Been on that site since 2007. Same handle.

Big Lenny
 
Paul,

Glad to hear you're a Yammy V4 lover too. Also, really glad to hear how high you are on the Spyders.

Yes. I'm a VentureRider. Been on that site since 2007. Same handle.

Big Lenny

I thought I recognized that name. Mine hasn't changed either. Started with Don when he first started Venturers then followed him over to VentureRider,Still hang out on both. I think you will love the Spyder too.
 
Decision to buy

Just bought mine last month and after doing hours and hours of research I decided to pull the trigger on a F3 Limited and don't regret it. I have 600 miles on it and if it is warm enough tomorrow there will be more. This thing is more addictive that crack cocaine. I have owned mostly Japanese bikes till a friend talked me into buying into the Harley farkle magnet that I wrecked last month when I hit a deer. Wife wanted me on three wheels after that and she loves it too. Other than a used Yamaha I had back in the early ninety's, I have never had a single bike leave me stranded and don't expect the Spyder to change that. Take care of her and she will take care of you.
 
<snip> The V4 motor that is in the Venture/Tour Deluxe is one the all time most reliable motorcycle power plants ever built.
Hi Lenny, welcome to Spyderlovers!

While the Spyder just came along around 2008 or so, its Rotax engine(s) go way back, in other type machines, and have their own long reputation for reliability. Just sayin'...
In just under 4 years now, and just under 59,000 miles, my two RTs (below) have never left me stranded anywhere. FUN machines! :yes:
 
Two Spyders with Zero Issues

We have two Spyders, a 2015 F3S and RT Limited with 10K miles on each and zero issues. We ride them more than I've ever ridden my 2-wheel bikes in the past.
 
Zip, just curious as to why the manual will have less issues than the automatic. Is this a personal opinion or have you had experience with both? I am pretty sure the automatic is just as reliable as the manual and if you want a 14 and up RT it's going to be an auto. I may be wrong on that but I don't think so.

Av8er, From all that I have read and people that I have spoken with it is not so much as more reliable as it is less of a chance for an issue. First the auto by its nature has more mechanical parts and that alone means less problems to me. Because it has a centrifugal clutch the engine needs higher RPM so that the clutch engages, on the manual when you are off the clutch it is engaged. When I was in the MFS course we were taught to feather the clutch for control which you cannot do with a semi. The auto has 2 oil filters while the manual has one. I am very happy with my manual to me it adds to the experience "I" want in ryding.

Is the auto bad? I am sure it is not. Do more people have more problems with them? I don't know. Do I see more of a potential for a problem? I do. Will that problem be more expensive to fix? I am sure it will. Will other ryders here comment on this? I hope so as I do not have all the answers.

Bottom line- Test drive both, talk to people, read everything you can find, then do what is best for you. And get out and ryde and have fun.

Safe ryding
:riding:
Jeff
 
Important Question

I have ridden bikes for over 50 years and with my knees and ankles just about gone, I did not feel safe with my wife on back any longer so we switched to the Spyder. We bought our first RT in 2013 and put 25K on it the first year with no trouble. I made the mistake of talking my wife into getting her endorsement in case I got sick or hurt. She had only ridden behind me for the last 40 years and had never ridden a bike by herself. She went out and bought herself a retirement gift and put 24K on her RT in one year with no problems. Both bikes were 2013s and had the heat issue but were not bad bikes. We wanted the bigger motors so we traded up to a 2014 and a 2015 RT limiteds we now have over 25K on them and have had no issues. Go ahead and get the Spyder just don't let your bride ride it or it cost double but then again you can have double the fun.

Camping up on the Crest 4-19 001.jpg
 
First, welcome to Spyderlovers, Lenny. I also loved the V4 but my manufacture was Honda. Had a 81 750 custom, 84 V65 Magna, 94 750 Magna. Then I switched to Triumph with the 2006 Rocket III. Really had no problems with the Honda's but had a few with the Triumph. Then in 2013 I bought a 2012 RTS and that bike was trouble free. Then traded for a 2015 RTS which had the 1330 engine and 6 speeds trans. Have almost 10,000 miles on the 2015 and has been trouble free. Every bike has its problems so I would not put much in what CR rating is. I just don't know how they came up with their information. One thing I will say about the Spyder is one FUN bike to ride.

Noticed you were in Arkansas. What part of Arkansas? I'm at Marion, Ar. and if your close you sure can take a spin on my bike and see what you think.


Keep us informed on your decision.
 
First, welcome to Spyderlovers, Lenny. I also loved the V4 but my manufacture was Honda. Had a 81 750 custom, 84 V65 Magna, 94 750 Magna. Then I switched to Triumph with the 2006 Rocket III. Really had no problems with the Honda's but had a few with the Triumph. Then in 2013 I bought a 2012 RTS and that bike was trouble free. Then traded for a 2015 RTS which had the 1330 engine and 6 speeds trans. Have almost 10,000 miles on the 2015 and has been trouble free. Every bike has its problems so I would not put much in what CR rating is. I just don't know how they came up with their information. One thing I will say about the Spyder is one FUN bike to ride.

Noticed you were in Arkansas. What part of Arkansas? I'm at Marion, Ar. and if your close you sure can take a spin on my bike and see what you think.


Keep us informed on your decision.

Ex-Rocket,

I live in Little Rock. Not too far from Marion. Thanks for the the offer. Maybe we'll meet up sometime. We are certainly spoiled to live in Arkansas. Some of the best bike riding in the country.
 
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