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The Differences Between Complaining and Whining

Capt. Bob

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I will have to admit that as a mental health type, I have developed a short fuse for whining. Not complaining, but whining. Now I don't normally consider Psychology Today as a refereed journal source but found a post by Paul Winch, Ph.D. on October 10, 2012 to be illuminating in helping me understand why my fuse for whiners has gotten much shorter as I age. An excerpt from Dr. Winch's musings are from that post are as follows:
"Complaining and whining can be distinguished by the nature of the dissatisfaction and by our motivation for expressing it. Complaining involves voicing fair and legitimate dissatisfactions with the goal of attaining a resolution or remedy. When we voice legitimate dissatisfactions but do so without the goal of attaining a resolution we are merely venting. And when the dissatisfactions we voice are trivial or inconsequential and not worthy of special attention, we are whining.The distinction is significant because complaining, venting, and whining, have very different effects on our psychology and emotions. How we complain affects us in substantial ways, many of which we fail to realize. They impact us materially (read, Do You Speak up When You Should?), emotionally (read, How Much of Your Life Do You Spend Angry?), physically (read, When Minor Complaints have Major Consequences) and psychologically (read, Does Complaining Damage Our Mental Health?).
In addition, how we express dissatisfactions has a significant impact on how we are perceived by those to whom we voice them (read, The Survival Guide for Dealing with Chronic Complainers). Now, a new study expands this body of knowledge by demonstrating that children as young as three-years-old can distinguish between complaining and whining, and respond accordingly."

I guess as I read some of the posts, I am embarrassedly less tolerant of whining than complaining. All complaints are welcome in my book but I have lost a lot of tolerance for whining. Just my two cents of armchair psychology. Carry on and don't lose your head:2thumbs:
 
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:clap: I like the way that you think! :thumbup:
Unfortunately; I find myself growing less than patient, when it comes to what I perceive as whining.
But I will try to do a little bit better! :D
 
I usually let people say what they want, whether I agree or not. If I do acknowledge, I try to keep it low key. I have found over the years that people who at first came off as really irritating to me, actually turned out to be on my "nice people" list.

People can have bad days which color what they say or do, or just think a certain way on a certain subject. :yes::yes: I am not going to let one or two posts I don't like color my opinion forever.

Those that do something consistently are another story. I just take it with a grain of salt and life goes on.
 
It's all a matter of perspective and how much of an impact it has on our lives. These comments remind me of the Jewish rabbi, upon listening to a some woes of a young congregant who was describing them as a real problem, asked him, "Is it a problem, or is it an inconvenience? You have a problem if your house burns down, or you are diagnosed with cancer. But if your car breaks down, or you burn your dinner, that is an inconvenience."

Complaining is analogous to a problem. Whining is analogous to an inconvenience. Let's keep them in perspective! :thumbup:
 
I usually let people say what they want, whether I agree or not. If I do acknowledge, I try to keep it low key. I have found over the years that people who at first came off as really irritating to me, actually turned out to be on my "nice people" list.

People can have bad days which color what they say or do, or just think a certain way on a certain subject. :yes::yes: I am not going to let one or two posts I don't like color my opinion forever.

Those that do something consistently are another story. I just take it with a grain of salt and life goes on.
I think you've got the right attitude with that post. I would think that most of the folks who follow this forum all have "favorite posters". Like you, some of those on my list I initially found "irritating" before I got to better know how they think (...or at least how I think they think).

In general I don't mind folks whining on a forum as much as I mind it in "real life". That's because it's so much easier to tune it out here, than it is in "real life". In fact, I probably get more annoyed with the posts written by someone complaining about someone else who may be whining ...or complaining (if that makes sense). :shocked:

I still recall what my dad used to say, when I was a kid, to someone he perceived to be whining. He would look them square in the eye and say, "If you don't knock that off, I'm going to haul off and ignore you!" :rolleyes:
 
The responses to my complaints about whining have been met with very thoughtful insights. Hopefully, some of our fellow posters that are frustrated with one aspect or another of our beloved Can-Am's will take it to heart and differentiate the resources that all of us and even BRP can provide versus just whining which does not seem to accomplish much but generally triggers irritable responses that also don't go anywhere. Case in point are the vibrations that we experience with our belt drives. Complaints with specific parameters seem to have gotten BRP mother ship to address the issue with some research and an impending fix. Of course, the marketplace discerned that there was an aftermarket fix much earlier and several companies more quickly came up with solutions to the problem. Seems like the complaints eventually get heard. Being relatively new to the brand, I am rather impressed with how quickly BRP has moved forward since 2008 in their engineering and offerings and I would suspect that the brand will only get better. I am fortunate to have two trikes to compare how form follows function and vice versa. My experience with machinery informs me that there are always compromises in design and manufacturing that have to be made and we as consumers get to ultimately vote with our wallets about how we appreciate those corporate decisions :thumbup:
 
I've found in this world there are two types of people in this world when faced with a problem.

Those who say "Someone needs to do something about this" and those who say "I need to do something about this".

The first type I haven't have much time for. Basically that's the difference between whining and complaining.
 
I've said this before:
That's why there is an "Ignore" function on this site.
I love it.
I wish there were an ignore button in real life.
 
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