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Originally Posted by ARtraveler
You are going to be reading both sides of the story here.
Have always been a firm believer in ATGATT until moving to the South where 90+ is very common in the summer. l have ATGATT for all levels of weather. But...
We are now in a climate where we can ride most days of the year. Also retired so have a lot of time to kill, and live in a beautiful riding area. A lot of days, a hundred miles is no issue. Currently we are over 25K a year on the bikes.
Now for some of the differences. We always wear helmets, gloves, jeans, and boots. In 70's, we usually wear high viz long sleeve sweatshirts. In 90's, I am down to high viz t-shirt. For trips on the highway, at minimum, the high viz mesh jackets come out. At highway speeds they are tolerable, going through towns at low speeds, they are not. It is a calculated risk, we drive defensively, as if everyone is out to get us.
We are both in our 70's and love to ride the Spyders. My Vulcan 900 was recently sold...so now its all three wheels. I do think we are ahead of the game with three instead of two in many safety aspects.
That's my story, and I am sticking to it.
This is pretty much where I'm at with the exception of riding for short errands at speeds below 40 mph, then it's whatever I'm wearing at the time and usually helmetless unless it's cold out.
By the same token I don't wear a helmet when on my bicycle.
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this was 8 years ago I was t-boned by a DRUNK, uninsured driver, in a stolen truck
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
The critical point is the lady was not wearing any protective gear. When we're not in a cage it is immaterial who or what hits whom, we lose. Even wearing full protective gear Kathy would have drawn the short straw.
Artillery lends dignity to what would
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Well, I have worn shorts, however, I have mesh armor that I wear underneath them. The armor is from Bonn Body Armor, https://www.bohnarmor.com/. They're kind of like football girdle pads! I have the long ones too. They even make a thermal set. You can just buy pants only (whichever you choose) and the pads can be switched out. Here in Houston its pretty hot when I ride home from work. I had shorts w/pads on one day and the sun really cooked me! I've decided when its hot, I'll just wear jeans without the armor. I do wear my Joe Rocket mesh jacket (which has become my new favorite) item. I also have a couple of the Bonn Armor shirts that I wear. I always wear my helmet, gloves, and motorcycle shoes (Alpine Stars). I commute 56-65 miles daily. My main concern when I'm riding is someone knocking me off my Spyder!
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Originally Posted by JayBros
The critical point is the lady was not wearing any protective gear. When we're not in a cage it is immaterial who or what hits whom, we lose. Even wearing full protective gear Kathy would have drawn the short straw.
Exactly.
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In sub-ninety five degree weather I wear jeans and an armored jacket. Above ninety five I drop to a long sleeve cool and dry shirt and jeans. I never bother with boots, on a Spyder you don’t need ankle support, to solid tennis shoes do the job. I always wear a helmet. In hot weather heat stroke is more danger than being ejected from my Spyder. On two wheels Is ATTGATT, but a Spyder is much lower risk.
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ATGATT. I had a crash on a 2-wheel and my gear saved my skin. Not a single drop of blood despite a broken collarbone and five broken ribs. I even wear an Helite airbag vest now. With jeans I wear kneepads. Otherwise one piece Aerostich. I feel naked if I don't have all body parts fully protected, like when I wear my hiking shoes instead of riding boots. I also wear a helmet when I ride my bicycle.
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Originally Posted by Plarimer
This might seem like a weird question, but a lot of things are new to me when I started riding my Spyder. All years of riding Harleys another two wheelers, I always dressed for the slide and not the ride, which included jeans and heavy boots. The spider seems like a different animal simply because I see people wearing more casual clothing. How do you dress when your ride? I still intend to go full bore on long highway rides.
When I rode those 2 wheel things, I had a one piece riding suit for the slide as you say. I ride with long sleeve wicking shirt and light weight to heavy weight athletic type pants. Still wear a helmet at all times. At first I wore the protective gear, but never gonna low side or high side the Spyder, thus relaxed my stance on ATGATT. Always wear boots.
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I always wear a full-face approved DOT Helmet. A good set of boots, long sleeve shirt and pants. I definitely want to do the right thing for me.
Wear what you want and enjoy some ryde time.
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It's about feeling freedom while riding being free, living free. Let your conscience be your guide. To each their own. Live and let live. The same thing with helmets if you hit your head with a hammer then put a helmet on your head we all know which one hurts less.That's what being free is make up your own mind and live by it.
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Always Helmet, Armored Mesh Jacket,Long Jeans, but when cruising, a t-shirt, and shoes( also Alpine-stars), don't care much for gloves, but have them always ready. Attgat when going highway.
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i usually ride when its 70 degrees or above, i never right at night, and i ride in shorts, sneakers, and tank-top, or t-shirt, usually no helmet , unless i go into NY state, and i usually dont go over 50-60 MPH..
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We have a lot of deer as do most of you. I rode 380 mi yesterday in 90 degree weather. Full ATGATT, modular helmet, jacket, pants, light boots and . . . Alpinestar Tech Air 5 vest. It is a little warmer but not too noticeable. The optional wind wings on the RT are very functional. Plan a 2,000 mi trip later this month. It will be Mad Max on a lot of roads this summer with everyone breaking free.
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I don’t understand the thinking of wearing armor on the highway only or on long trips. IMHO you are statistically safer on the highway than you are when just tooling around town.
That being said, having spent much more time off road and dual sport type riding I was firmly ATGATT. I’ve even experienced EMS cutting my expensive armored compression shirt off of me...ouch! When I started doing more pavement oriented rides I started wearing Bohn Amour top and bottom a pretty good compromise in comfort and protection. Even so my biggest concern was laying down my bike and the resulting slide on the pavement.
I truly feel that a collision with a vehicle, deer or cow that a helmet is your best protection and that body armor is going to do little good for a significant impact. As such I have not been as ATGATT since moving to the Spyder, minimum tho is ALWAYS helmet, gloves and boots. I don’t wear body armor on the Spyder since the slide factor is virtually eliminated. I see my dress style for riding as a calculated risk that I’m willing to take.
Another thing that I’ve never been able to understand are those that think that standard denim jeans are some sort of protective gear, they will shred in a heartbeat in a pavement slide.
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Originally Posted by Adventurer
I don’t understand the thinking of wearing armor on the highway only or on long trips. IMHO you are statistically safer on the highway than you are when just tooling around town.
That being said, having spent much more time off road and dual sport type riding I was firmly ATGATT. I’ve even experienced EMS cutting my expensive armored compression shirt off of me...ouch! When I started doing more pavement oriented rides I started wearing Bohn Amour top and bottom a pretty good compromise in comfort and protection. Even so my biggest concern was laying down my bike and the resulting slide on the pavement.
I truly feel that a collision with a vehicle, deer or cow that a helmet is your best protection and that body armor is going to do little good for a significant impact. As such I have not been as ATGATT since moving to the Spyder, minimum tho is ALWAYS helmet, gloves and boots. I don’t wear body armor on the Spyder since the slide factor is virtually eliminated. I see my dress style for riding as a calculated risk that I’m willing to take.
Another thing that I’ve never been able to understand are those that think that standard denim jeans are some sort of protective gear, they will shred in a heartbeat in a pavement slide.
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In summer I wear the sena Calvary and my Klim full mesh jacket. I know it’s not the total safest helmet but it’s something. Even at 98 that jacket doesn’t keep heat in. I wear a cut off shirt under it or a fully vented MX jersey. On super hot days I’ve actually wet the jersey and the wind keeps me really cool. Klim has excellent armor! I have both the induction and maramesh. On long touring days I have fully vented pants too. I’ll put shorts under them and good to go. Jeans on most days though. I’m not worried about the slide on 3 wheels. If I’m thrown they should stay together on the roll vs sliding with the bike. I had a really bad accident 3 years ago. Cracked a carbon fiber helmet and tore through my armored tekvest. Both saved my life! And no it wasn’t my fault either. Tboned at 35mph. Never stood a chance.
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Sox, Crocs, leather chaps and a helmet. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I wear jeans/regular pants, modular helmet, gloves, hi-top riding sneakers, and my Helite Turtle airbag vest or TekVest that I wear while snowmobiling.
On hot days, I will wear a long-sleeved, white athletic shirt that wicks away sweat. This is actually a way to stay cooler vs exposing more skin.
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In hot weather I wear short sleeve shirt( Sun screen on arms, neck), jeans, socks, boots, full face helmet, leather gloves. Rain gear is always on the bike.
In cool weather ( fall) I wear a long sleeve shirt, jeans, socks, boots, heated jacket ( I wear the heated jacket when I ride the sled, off topic) back on topic, Can-Am Jacket. gloves.
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Originally Posted by Adventurer
...IMHO you are statistically safer on the highway than you are when just tooling around town.
The problem with statistics is you just don't know where you stand. Forty-eight years ago on US-13 on the eastern shore of VA if it hadn't been for the God-given brain and driving skill I was awarded somewhere along the line, a family of four would have been wiped out in a head-on collision at a combined impact speed of 100. On my motorcycle I would have been dead meat under any circumstances. No matter how hot it gets I can always shower after a sweaty ATGATT ride.
Artillery lends dignity to what would
otherwise be a vulgar brawl.
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Originally Posted by JayBros
The problem with statistics is you just don't know where you stand. Forty-eight years ago on US-13 on the eastern shore of VA if it hadn't been for the God-given brain and driving skill I was awarded somewhere along the line, a family of four would have been wiped out in a head-on collision at a combined impact speed of 100. On my motorcycle I would have been dead meat under any circumstances. No matter how hot it gets I can always shower after a sweaty ATGATT ride.
It's all about personal risk tolerance and assessment.
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Originally Posted by JayBros
The problem with statistics is you just don't know where you stand. Forty-eight years ago on US-13 on the eastern shore of VA if it hadn't been for the God-given brain and driving skill I was awarded somewhere along the line, a family of four would have been wiped out in a head-on collision at a combined impact speed of 100. On my motorcycle I would have been dead meat under any circumstances. No matter how hot it gets I can always shower after a sweaty ATGATT ride.
With a 100 mph impact on a motorcycle you are dead meat with or without ATGATT. But again that is a calculated risk that anyone who rides has decided they are willing to take.
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Maybe not the smartest thing to do, but with the heat today I rode in shorts (usually wear jeans) and sandals (again not the norm), but I was comfortable and enjoyed every minute. But now my feet have tan lines, and I got a little burnt…. I’m thinking personal protection might have to include the sun…
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The truth of the matter is that if you get knocked off your Spyder in just about any fashion, you're gonna slide after hitting the deck.
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ATGATT. My wife and I both love our Aerostitch Roadcrafter 1 piece suits that we had custom fit at a "pop-up" AS store. It does get hot here in AZ though and the Stitch is only good to about 80. Above that we both have mesh armored jackets and wear kevlar jeans with Bohn body armor pants under them. When it gets too hot we either don't ride or I just remember the old adage "I'd rather sweat than bleed".
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