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    So, here I am with a 2020 RT with 4500 miles on it and thought I
    would see what is considered to be best buy on tires. Fronts will stay
    as a motorcycle type and the rear will be a car type. I have had a car type
    on my 2015 and 2017 can am and like the ride and feel not to mention the
    mileage on the tires. Size and brand would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    Someone fails to see it is a reverse trike? And that better tires on the front is what improves handling.
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    try Vredestein Quatrac 5, ALTIMAX RT43, Federal Formoza and Kendra Kanine tires seem to run in that order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dray View Post
    So, here I am with a 2020 RT with 4500 miles on it and thought I
    would see what is considered to be best buy on tires. Fronts will stay
    as a motorcycle type
    and the rear will be a car type. I have had a car type
    on my 2015 and 2017 can am and like the ride and feel not to mention the
    mileage on the tires. Size and brand would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
    Dray
    Are you aware that NONE of the tires on a Spyder/Ryker are "motorcycle" tires? None of them. They're ALL car tires and the wheels are J type CAR tire compatible wheels. A motorcycle tire wouldn't even mount correctly on a Spyder/Ryker wheel.

    I understand that the new Kenda K9 (Kanine) is supposed to be a better tire than the original Kendas but it's still a Kenda. I wouldn't even put a Kenda on my car.

    Buy a new pair of CAR tires for the front now. Once the rear tire wears out, put a car tire on the back.

    Like CopperSpyder said, the most popular choices are Vredestein Quatrac 5 (aka Q5), ALTIMAX RT43 and Federal Formoza AZ01 however just about ANY CAR tire will be better than the OEM Kendas. Do a forum search for "car+tires" (without the quotes) and you'll find more threads than you have time to read along with the accepted sizes.

    FWIW, I have a '21 RT with just over 3k miles. The front Kendas have miles of tread left on them and I just put a pair of Q5s on the front of my bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MONK View Post
    Are you aware that NONE of the tires on a Spyder/Ryker are "motorcycle" tires? None of them. They're ALL car tires and the wheels are J type CAR tire compatible wheels. A motorcycle tire wouldn't even mount correctly on a Spyder/Ryker wheel.

    I understand that the new Kenda K9 (Kanine) is supposed to be a better tire than the original Kendas but it's still a Kenda. I wouldn't even put a Kenda on my car.

    Buy a new pair of CAR tires for the front now. Once the rear tire wears out, put a car tire on the back.

    Like CopperSpyder said, the most popular choices are Vredestein Quatrac 5 (aka Q5), ALTIMAX RT43 and Federal Formoza AZ01 however just about ANY CAR tire will be better than the OEM Kendas. Do a forum search for "car+tires" (without the quotes) and you'll find more threads than you have time to read along with the accepted sizes.

    FWIW, I have a '21 RT with just over 3k miles. The front Kendas have miles of tread left on them and I just put a pair of Q5s on the front of my bike.
    Is the the General people are using? General ALTIMAX RT43 (T-SPEED RATED) - SIZE: 215/60R15

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    Quote Originally Posted by MONK View Post
    Are you aware that NONE of the tires on a Spyder/Ryker are "motorcycle" tires? None of them. They're ALL car tires and the wheels are J type CAR tire compatible wheels. A motorcycle tire wouldn't even mount correctly on a Spyder/Ryker wheel.

    I understand that the new Kenda K9 (Kanine) is supposed to be a better tire than the original Kendas but it's still a Kenda. I wouldn't even put a Kenda on my car.

    Buy a new pair of CAR tires for the front now. Once the rear tire wears out, put a car tire on the back.

    Like CopperSpyder said, the most popular choices are Vredestein Quatrac 5 (aka Q5), ALTIMAX RT43 and Federal Formoza AZ01 however just about ANY CAR tire will be better than the OEM Kendas. Do a forum search for "car+tires" (without the quotes) and you'll find more threads than you have time to read along with the accepted sizes.

    FWIW, I have a '21 RT with just over 3k miles. The front Kendas have miles of tread left on them and I just put a pair of Q5s on the front of my bike.
    Monk,

    When you replaced your front tires with the Q5's did you notice a smoother ride? When I did that to my wife's 2018 F3 I asked her how it felt. She said like a new bike that is so smooth that she wished I had done it sooner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PW2013STL View Post
    Monk,

    When you replaced your front tires with the Q5's did you notice a smoother ride? When I did that to my wife's 2018 F3 I asked her how it felt. She said like a new bike that is so smooth that she wished I had done it sooner.
    Smoother, turns easier, sticks to the road a little better. I've only put a couple hundred miles on them so far. Hope for more curves as the weather warms up. (Most of the really good curves are up the mountain from me.) My next Spyder will get car tires before I ride it home.

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    I tossed the oem Kendas for Q5s all around @ 1000 mi. Threw the Krapos in the recycle bin. At 5000 mi now and can't imagine riding on those plastic tires ever again. I ride & corner hard and have given the Q5s a real test. The Q5s are what Monk said and I can corner far faster than the Ks - right up till the nanny finally gets pissed. But like so many things, you have to try it to appreciate the improvement. FWIW, I think swapping out the fronts is more helpful than the rear alone but doing all 3 is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayBJ View Post
    I tossed the oem Kendas for Q5s all around @ 1000 mi. Threw the Krapos in the recycle bin. At 5000 mi now and can't imagine riding on those plastic tires ever again. I ride & corner hard and have given the Q5s a real test. The Q5s are what Monk said and I can corner far faster than the Ks - right up till the nanny finally gets pissed. But like so many things, you have to try it to appreciate the improvement. FWIW, I think swapping out the fronts is more helpful than the rear alone but doing all 3 is the way to go.
    What size did you get for the front and back? That is what confuses me as most of what is talked I don’t see what size is recommended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerandchips View Post
    What size did you get for the front and back? That is what confuses me as most of what is talked I don’t see what size is recommended.

    Thanks

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    That's because the specific nominal sidewall size isn't really all that important, since physical tire sizes can vary so much from whatever it might say on the sidewall; physical sizes that will almost certainly vary from manufacturer to manufacturer even if they wear the same nominal sidewall size, which may also vary between different tire types made by the same manufacturer!!

    So, given that, you need to make your own choice on what size & type of tire to fit. I generally go for something just a little larger than the OE size, because we have lots of long and hot miles here in Oz, so choosing a tire that gives it fewer revs per mile/a little bit longer legs helps (once corrected for speedo/odo variations) fuel economy a tad & the slightly larger tire rolling dia generally gives better tire life (altho that may be somewhat varied by the choice of compounds used in the tire's tread!) Besides, it seems BRP has deliberately(?? ) chosen tire sizes that aren't readily available in any alternatives in order to make it less likely owners will choose anything but their OE Crap... err, sorry, Kendas! But so far, going by the myriad of beta testers & testing that's been done by owners/users, pretty much any auto tire in a size that physically fits into/onto a Spyder/Ryker is likely to last longer, perform better, be less prone to issues & failures effecting ride, handling, puncture resistance, suspension compliance, and tire longevity et al.

    All of which boils down to YOU needing to make a decision - you can stick with the OE spec rubbish; you can choose alternative auto tires that match the OE Spec sizes from the limited options available (which may be significantly different sizes anyway ) that better suit your needs/wants; or you can choose auto tires that better suit your needs/wants which have physical dimensions that are reasonably close to but different from the ACTUAL tire diameter of the OE spec tires (altho the Kenda is a little small) Compare the rolling radius or diameter, or you could even compare the 'revs per mile' of your tire of choice - in either case, you get to select something that, if you make any effort to define what you really need/want, will almost certainly better suit your particular application than the 'one size fits all applications' type tire that BRP tries to foist off on everybody despite the vast range of uses & conditions where they may be used!

    For the rear of Spyders, that generally means something between 195/75R15 up to 225/60R15, with the most popular choices being in the 205/215/225 sizes and profiles being 55, 60, or 65, albeit not too many want to risk going over 225/60 simply due to the space available. For the 2013 & later fronts, most go for 165/175 x 15's in 55, 60, or 65 profile, altho there are a few who've opted for 185/50R15's and upgraded their fenders to cater for the extra width. Any auto tire that's NOT a Spyder spec Kenda (OE Spec or the alternate Kenda Kanines) & so is likely to have a higher load &/or speed rating will be substantially more 'robustly constructed' than the OE Spec tires, and so will not need the higher pressures you'd normally run in them if they were fitted to an auto weighing in maybe three times as much! That means you'll need to run pressures in the vicinity of 16 psi up front & 16-18 psi in the rear or you'll be running them over-inflated for the load/application on the Spyder/Ryker, and in doing so risking abnormal wear rates/patterns, increased likelihood of punctures, substantially reduced traction (especially in the wet), and less suspension compliance/harsher ride, et al! We don't get Vredesteins here in Oz, so my 2013 RT Ltd is currently running 175/60R15 Kumho's up front at 14-16 psi depending upon temps/load/trip length & a Michelin 205/65R15 on the rear at 16-18 psi with the same proviso's. And I've got better than 30,000 km of better ride, handling, & traction etc out of all the tires I've run (not just tested) on my Spyder since I scrapped the dodgy Kendas that it left the factory with - they didn't even last 5000 km, and the improvement in all aspects of tire ride, handling, & performance once I'd tossed them was astounding!!

    But it's your Spyder, and it'll be your tires, so it's really YOUR choice, isn't it?!? You just hafta make it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Aawen View Post
    That's because the specific nominal sidewall size isn't really all that important, since physical tire sizes can vary so much from whatever it might say on the sidewall; physical sizes that will almost certainly vary from manufacturer to manufacturer even if they wear the same nominal sidewall size, which may also vary between different tire types made by the same manufacturer!!

    So, given that, you need to make your own choice on what size & type of tire to fit. I generally go for something just a little larger than the OE size, because we have lots of long and hot miles here in Oz, so choosing a tire that gives it fewer revs per mile/a little bit longer legs helps (once corrected for speedo/odo variations) fuel economy a tad & the slightly larger tire rolling dia generally gives better tire life (altho that may be somewhat varied by the choice of compounds used in the tire's tread!) Besides, it seems BRP has deliberately(?? ) chosen tire sizes that aren't readily available in any alternatives in order to make it less likely owners will choose anything but their OE Crap... err, sorry, Kendas! But so far, going by the myriad of beta testers & testing that's been done by owners/users, pretty much any auto tire in a size that physically fits into/onto a Spyder/Ryker is likely to last longer, perform better, be less prone to issues & failures effecting ride, handling, puncture resistance, suspension compliance, and tire longevity et al.

    All of which boils down to YOU needing to make a decision - you can stick with the OE spec rubbish; you can choose alternative auto tires that match the OE Spec sizes from the limited options available (which may be significantly different sizes anyway ) that better suit your needs/wants; or you can choose auto tires that better suit your needs/wants which have physical dimensions that are reasonably close to but different from the ACTUAL tire diameter of the OE spec tires (altho the Kenda is a little small) Compare the rolling radius or diameter, or you could even compare the 'revs per mile' of your tire of choice - in either case, you get to select something that, if you make any effort to define what you really need/want, will almost certainly better suit your particular application than the 'one size fits all applications' type tire that BRP tries to foist off on everybody despite the vast range of uses & conditions where they may be used!

    For the rear of Spyders, that generally means something between 195/75R15 up to 225/60R15, with the most popular choices being in the 205/215/225 sizes and profiles being 55, 60, or 65, albeit not too many want to risk going over 225/60 simply due to the space available. For the 2013 & later fronts, most go for 165/175 x 15's in 55, 60, or 65 profile, altho there are a few who've opted for 185/50R15's and upgraded their fenders to cater for the extra width. Any auto tire that's NOT a Spyder spec Kenda (OE Spec or the alternate Kenda Kanines) & so is likely to have a higher load &/or speed rating will be substantially more 'robustly constructed' than the OE Spec tires, and so will not need the higher pressures you'd normally run in them if they were fitted to an auto weighing in maybe three times as much! That means you'll need to run pressures in the vicinity of 16 psi up front & 16-18 psi in the rear or you'll be running them over-inflated for the load/application on the Spyder/Ryker, and in doing so risking abnormal wear rates/patterns, increased likelihood of punctures, substantially reduced traction (especially in the wet), and less suspension compliance/harsher ride, et al! We don't get Vredesteins here in Oz, so my 2013 RT Ltd is currently running 175/60R15 Kumho's up front at 14-16 psi depending upon temps/load/trip length & a Michelin 205/65R15 on the rear at 16-18 psi with the same proviso's. And I've got better than 30,000 km of better ride, handling, & traction etc out of all the tires I've run (not just tested) on my Spyder since I scrapped the dodgy Kendas that it left the factory with - they didn't even last 5000 km, and the improvement in all aspects of tire ride, handling, & performance once I'd tossed them was astounding!!

    But it's your Spyder, and it'll be your tires, so it's really YOUR choice, isn't it?!? You just hafta make it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Aawen View Post
    That's because the specific nominal sidewall size isn't really all that important, since physical tire sizes can vary so much from whatever it might say on the sidewall; physical sizes that will almost certainly vary from manufacturer to manufacturer even if they wear the same nominal sidewall size, which may also vary between different tire types made by the same manufacturer!!

    So, given that, you need to make your own choice on what size & type of tire to fit. I generally go for something just a little larger than the OE size, because we have lots of long and hot miles here in Oz, so choosing a tire that gives it fewer revs per mile/a little bit longer legs helps (once corrected for speedo/odo variations) fuel economy a tad & the slightly larger tire rolling dia generally gives better tire life (altho that may be somewhat varied by the choice of compounds used in the tire's tread!) Besides, it seems BRP has deliberately(?? ) chosen tire sizes that aren't readily available in any alternatives in order to make it less likely owners will choose anything but their OE Crap... err, sorry, Kendas! But so far, going by the myriad of beta testers & testing that's been done by owners/users, pretty much any auto tire in a size that physically fits into/onto a Spyder/Ryker is likely to last longer, perform better, be less prone to issues & failures effecting ride, handling, puncture resistance, suspension compliance, and tire longevity et al.

    All of which boils down to YOU needing to make a decision - you can stick with the OE spec rubbish; you can choose alternative auto tires that match the OE Spec sizes from the limited options available (which may be significantly different sizes anyway ) that better suit your needs/wants; or you can choose auto tires that better suit your needs/wants which have physical dimensions that are reasonably close to but different from the ACTUAL tire diameter of the OE spec tires (altho the Kenda is a little small) Compare the rolling radius or diameter, or you could even compare the 'revs per mile' of your tire of choice - in either case, you get to select something that, if you make any effort to define what you really need/want, will almost certainly better suit your particular application than the 'one size fits all applications' type tire that BRP tries to foist off on everybody despite the vast range of uses & conditions where they may be used!

    For the rear of Spyders, that generally means something between 195/75R15 up to 225/60R15, with the most popular choices being in the 205/215/225 sizes and profiles being 55, 60, or 65, albeit not too many want to risk going over 225/60 simply due to the space available. For the 2013 & later fronts, most go for 165/175 x 15's in 55, 60, or 65 profile, altho there are a few who've opted for 185/50R15's and upgraded their fenders to cater for the extra width. Any auto tire that's NOT a Spyder spec Kenda (OE Spec or the alternate Kenda Kanines) & so is likely to have a higher load &/or speed rating will be substantially more 'robustly constructed' than the OE Spec tires, and so will not need the higher pressures you'd normally run in them if they were fitted to an auto weighing in maybe three times as much! That means you'll need to run pressures in the vicinity of 16 psi up front & 16-18 psi in the rear or you'll be running them over-inflated for the load/application on the Spyder/Ryker, and in doing so risking abnormal wear rates/patterns, increased likelihood of punctures, substantially reduced traction (especially in the wet), and less suspension compliance/harsher ride, et al! We don't get Vredesteins here in Oz, so my 2013 RT Ltd is currently running 175/60R15 Kumho's up front at 14-16 psi depending upon temps/load/trip length & a Michelin 205/65R15 on the rear at 16-18 psi with the same proviso's. And I've got better than 30,000 km of better ride, handling, & traction etc out of all the tires I've run (not just tested) on my Spyder since I scrapped the dodgy Kendas that it left the factory with - they didn't even last 5000 km, and the improvement in all aspects of tire ride, handling, & performance once I'd tossed them was astounding!!

    But it's your Spyder, and it'll be your tires, so it's really YOUR choice, isn't it?!? You just hafta make it!
    If you are going to slander Kenda as OE spec rubbish you will need to quote a date to go with it. My 2020 F3L has 16k km on the Kendas and they have proven to be as good as the best of 2 wheel tyres I have fitted. Thankfully CAN-Am appear to have listened to many years of complaining about Kenda tyres and have changed their ways .... or I'm just lucky to have jagged a good set for my vigorous twisties ryding. Whatever, I'll be fitting Kenda tyres again very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RazzleH View Post
    If you are going to slander Kenda as OE spec rubbish you will need to quote a date to go with it. My 2020 F3L has 16k km on the Kendas and they have proven to be as good as the best of 2 wheel tyres I have fitted. Thankfully CAN-Am appear to have listened to many years of complaining about Kenda tyres and have changed their ways .... or I'm just lucky to have jagged a good set for my vigorous twisties ryding. Whatever, I'll be fitting Kenda tyres again very soon.
    Peter's likely to be sleeping now ( Australia time ) So here's the TRUTH based on a decade of testing ...... they are probably the most " defective prone " tires made. ... Their long term track record by members here prove this. Is every Kenda Spyder tire bad .... No, but lots of folks here have reported very early failure, or un-rider right off the showroom floor. Compared to Auto tires the Kenda's are very weakly made, the casing is isn't strong enough to support even a " Smart car ". The Kenda tires are are very close to the Maximum load they are designed to carry ie. an RT. I agree Kenda has made some adjustments over the years to improve them, but getting another 2-3000 mi. more from them does not impress me. ..... My recommendation has been - if they will at least balance, then use until they wear out - then get auto tires that fit ...... Good luck .... Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by MONK View Post
    I understand that the new Kenda K9 (Kanine) is supposed to be a better tire than the original Kendas but it's still a Kenda. I wouldn't even put a Kenda on my car.
    Kendas work quite nicely on my table saw!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazzleH View Post
    If you are going to slander Kenda as OE spec rubbish you will need to quote a date to go with it. My 2020 F3L has 16k km on the Kendas and they have proven to be as good as the best of 2 wheel tyres I have fitted. Thankfully CAN-Am appear to have listened to many years of complaining about Kenda tyres and have changed their ways .... or I'm just lucky to have jagged a good set for my vigorous twisties ryding. Whatever, I'll be fitting Kenda tyres again very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    Kendas work quite nicely on my table saw!!

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    And golf carts.

    Kenda started as a bicycle tire company I believe. In 2004 we bought a 5th wheel trailer that had Kenda Klever LT235/85R16E tires. People were having so many issues with them that Kenda paid me $110 x 5 tires to have them removed and destroyed. I told a guy in a camp ground to get them off his trailer, and later he posted on a forum for the trailer brand that he should have listened to a guy that told him to get rid of them, as his trailer was heavily damaged when one failed. I still think as I have posted before that Kenda pricing to BRP is in play here as agreement to only use and recommend Kenda's. They are probably paying $35 or so per tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoking1127 View Post
    And golf carts.

    Kenda started as a bicycle tire company I believe. In 2004 we bought a 5th wheel trailer that had Kenda Klever LT235/85R16E tires. People were having so many issues with them that Kenda paid me $110 x 5 tires to have them removed and destroyed. I told a guy in a camp ground to get them off his trailer, and later he posted on a forum for the trailer brand that he should have listened to a guy that told him to get rid of them, as his trailer was heavily damaged when one failed. I still think as I have posted before that Kenda pricing to BRP is in play here as agreement to only use and recommend Kenda's. They are probably paying $35 or so per tire.

    Sep. 13, 2020 by Tire Reviews And More
    At its inception in 1962, the Taiwanese manufacturer produced bicycle tires, and continued in this industry until 2001 after which it added passenger car tires to its portfolio. Kenda manufactures a diverse product line, which includes tires for bicycles, motorcycles, ATVs, automobiles, trailers, and industrial equipment.
    ..... it's all about the money .... Since H.D. uses Dunlop " AUTO " tires on their Trikes for sale in the US, the entire LEGAL argument about " they MUST be Motorcycle tires has been de-bunked. .... and I don't think BRP pays anything for the tires from the factory they have a " sweetheart " deal with Kenda because only Can-am dealers can actually buy Spyder tires , and they make a hugh profit on them .....also PRINTED on the sidewall of the Kenda tire " this tire MUST be mounted on a " J " type rim .... " J " type rims are what all AUTO wheels are .... rant over ..... Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Aawen View Post
    That's because the specific nominal sidewall size isn't really all that important, since physical tire sizes can vary so much from whatever it might say on the sidewall; physical sizes that will almost certainly vary from manufacturer to manufacturer even if they wear the same nominal sidewall size, which may also vary between different tire types made by the same manufacturer!!

    So, given that, you need to make your own choice on what size & type of tire to fit. I generally go for something just a little larger than the OE size, because we have lots of long and hot miles here in Oz, so choosing a tire that gives it fewer revs per mile/a little bit longer legs helps (once corrected for speedo/odo variations) fuel economy a tad & the slightly larger tire rolling dia generally gives better tire life (altho that may be somewhat varied by the choice of compounds used in the tire's tread!) Besides, it seems BRP has deliberately(?? ) chosen tire sizes that aren't readily available in any alternatives in order to make it less likely owners will choose anything but their OE Crap... err, sorry, Kendas! But so far, going by the myriad of beta testers & testing that's been done by owners/users, pretty much any auto tire in a size that physically fits into/onto a Spyder/Ryker is likely to last longer, perform better, be less prone to issues & failures effecting ride, handling, puncture resistance, suspension compliance, and tire longevity et al.

    All of which boils down to YOU needing to make a decision - you can stick with the OE spec rubbish; you can choose alternative auto tires that match the OE Spec sizes from the limited options available (which may be significantly different sizes anyway ) that better suit your needs/wants; or you can choose auto tires that better suit your needs/wants which have physical dimensions that are reasonably close to but different from the ACTUAL tire diameter of the OE spec tires (altho the Kenda is a little small) Compare the rolling radius or diameter, or you could even compare the 'revs per mile' of your tire of choice - in either case, you get to select something that, if you make any effort to define what you really need/want, will almost certainly better suit your particular application than the 'one size fits all applications' type tire that BRP tries to foist off on everybody despite the vast range of uses & conditions where they may be used!

    For the rear of Spyders, that generally means something between 195/75R15 up to 225/60R15, with the most popular choices being in the 205/215/225 sizes and profiles being 55, 60, or 65, albeit not too many want to risk going over 225/60 simply due to the space available. For the 2013 & later fronts, most go for 165/175 x 15's in 55, 60, or 65 profile, altho there are a few who've opted for 185/50R15's and upgraded their fenders to cater for the extra width. Any auto tire that's NOT a Spyder spec Kenda (OE Spec or the alternate Kenda Kanines) & so is likely to have a higher load &/or speed rating will be substantially more 'robustly constructed' than the OE Spec tires, and so will not need the higher pressures you'd normally run in them if they were fitted to an auto weighing in maybe three times as much! That means you'll need to run pressures in the vicinity of 16 psi up front & 16-18 psi in the rear or you'll be running them over-inflated for the load/application on the Spyder/Ryker, and in doing so risking abnormal wear rates/patterns, increased likelihood of punctures, substantially reduced traction (especially in the wet), and less suspension compliance/harsher ride, et al! We don't get Vredesteins here in Oz, so my 2013 RT Ltd is currently running 175/60R15 Kumho's up front at 14-16 psi depending upon temps/load/trip length & a Michelin 205/65R15 on the rear at 16-18 psi with the same proviso's. And I've got better than 30,000 km of better ride, handling, & traction etc out of all the tires I've run (not just tested) on my Spyder since I scrapped the dodgy Kendas that it left the factory with - they didn't even last 5000 km, and the improvement in all aspects of tire ride, handling, & performance once I'd tossed them was astounding!!

    But it's your Spyder, and it'll be your tires, so it's really YOUR choice, isn't it?!? You just hafta make it!
    Peter,

    Thank you for taking the time to write up a detailed reply. I very much appreciate it and it is very well written.

    Thanks again,

    Regards,

    Steve

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    A couple of days ago, I noticed the center of the rear tire on my 2018 RT was showing wear. I contacted a dealer about 40 miles from here to check on options for replacement. Since they are fairly new to the Spyder game, they advised me that they had never done that job before. They said the book shows it as a 3 hour job. They have Kendas in stock, but said they would install another brand if I provided one of the same size.
    Does 3 hours sound reasonable?
    I'm still looking at other options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RowdyScamp View Post
    A couple of days ago, I noticed the center of the rear tire on my 2018 RT was showing wear. I contacted a dealer about 40 miles from here to check on options for replacement. Since they are fairly new to the Spyder game, they advised me that they had never done that job before. They said the book shows it as a 3 hour job. They have Kendas in stock, but said they would install another brand if I provided one of the same size.
    Does 3 hours sound reasonable?
    I'm still looking at other options.
    I have done mine in under an hour ..... But they are using shop rates ..... same goes for Frunk removal, I have timed myself and do it in 15 min. ....." shop rate 2 1/2 hrs. ..... For those who can work on their Spyders it's a hugh savings ..... If they will mount anything you bring them get a General Altimax RT 43 " V-speed rating " in 215 60-15 ... ( it's what a lot of folks here use ) .... you should get at least 30,000 mi. from it .... Mike

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    I would like to get Vredestrin tires for my '14 RT. I am taking donations. Please send spare change to...

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    Default tires again

    Thanks for all the info. Much appreciated and did not know front tires were car type tires.

    Thanks to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricford View Post
    I would like to get Vredestrin tires for my '14 RT. I am taking donations. Please send spare change to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dray View Post
    Thanks for all the info. Much appreciated and did not know front tires were car type tires.

    Thanks to all.

    Dray
    Just to be absolutely clear, ALL the tires (& rims) on Spyders/Rykers are 'car type', at least when they leave the factory!! So unless someone has done a dodgy tire fit at some stage after that, which would be a tad difficult anyway & they'd probably end up with a 'not very safe' rim/tire combination besides, then your REAR tire will also be car type!
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