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    Quote Originally Posted by markyodo View Post
    I would just like to know how they are able to keep the cost down to under $7k vs. something like a Spyder costing $15k - $24k? I am really curious.
    In an earlier thread--now closed--but readable, we discussed costing ad nauseum. Those who are knowledgeable about cost accounting for manufacturing, do not see how the ballpark $7K price point can be achieved. Mr. Elios spreadsheet with numbers was not according to GAAP and would never fly in real life.

    The folks at BRP know what they are doing with cost accounting and the reality of the true prices shows.

    I have tried not to spar with Rando as I know he is convinced otherwise on the Elio. He is sounding like an employee of Elio at the moment and quoting the "company" line again.

    I have been quiet, but when I see this stuff come up again, I feel I have to put on the Consumer Advocate suit. Am very afraid that the 28,000 people (latest amount quoted) with deposits down are going to lose their money and the Elio--if it gets on the streets, will turn out to be another Yugo.
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    Default Elio Motors attempts to alleviate scam fears

    http://www.product-reviews.net/2014/...te-scam-fears/

    Disclaimer. I have no ties to Elio other than I gave them a deposit. I believe in the American way and hope they are successful.
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    I'm glad to see that they are aware of how things are sounding out here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I'm glad to see that they are aware of how things are sounding out here...
    Build and market it; I'll have one!
    Just curious Bob. How do you think the Elio will perform in winter climates? The , for me anyway, is not a winter machine. It slips, and slides when there is any snow or ice on the road. I end up parking it from October till March.

    The very few that actually drive the in winter are exceptions to the rule. My dealer was one, studded snow tires and all, he parked it after a couple rides.

    I also bring up my example of safety. Not sure if the protection offered by Elio would stand up to some SUV, pickup, or other car crashing into me as they are doing their "out of control" dance on the highway. The light weight and single wheel drive does not sound like a very good winter driving option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post

    I also bring up my example of safety. Not sure if the protection offered by Elio would stand up to some SUV, pickup, or other car crashing into me as they are doing their "out of control" dance on the highway. The light weight and single wheel drive does not sound like a very good winter driving option.
    It's front wheel drive.

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    Front wheel drive will help; but there's still got to be some seeing, to be some believing!
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    Watch the Elio make easy work of the snow!:

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    Here's a rumor I heard this week that makes more sense than anything. What I heard is the Elio will be fueled by a proprietary fuel cell that you will purchase from your local PepBoys. You won't be fueling this thing at your local gas station. PepBoys is listed as a Official Service Center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyryder View Post
    It's front wheel drive.
    So, the front wheel drive is going to protect me if an out of control SUV runs into me and crushes me inside the one door only Elio. Hello, jaws of life. Glad to know that my safety has been taken care of.

    Four wheel drive is not even enough. I have talked many times about our famous "ditch divers" here in Alaska. Put snow and ice on the roads and you will see 20 or more vehicles upside down in the ditch in a 10 mile stretch. Prior to ending up there, they were singing "I am invincible, I have a four wheel drive."

    Okay, I surrender. Enjoy your Elio.

    I will be back when its either on the road or a bust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    Here's a rumor I heard this week that makes more sense than anything. What I heard is the Elio will be fueled by a proprietary fuel cell that you will purchase from your local PepBoys. You won't be fueling this thing at your local gas station. PepBoys is listed as a Official Service Center.
    Okay I surrender. Enjoy your new Elios.

    I will be back when its either on the road or a bust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rando View Post
    Watch the Elio make easy work of the snow!:
    Okay, I surrender. Enjoy your new Elio.

    I will be back when its either on the road or a bust.
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    Is it just me, or was it understeering an awful lot on the snowy turns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    Okay I surrender. Enjoy your new Elios.

    I will be back when its either on the road or a bust.
    I think you missed my point. How much is that 84mpg going to cost you per gal if you have to buy it from PepBoys? Could be $10.00 gal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    I think you missed my point. How much is that 84mpg going to cost you per gal if you have to buy it from PepBoys? Could be $10.00 gal?
    Yes, that one went right over my head.

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    Last edited by Rando; 10-08-2014 at 11:55 AM.

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    I hope that you're right, and I wish him well!
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    It's a great concept, we will see when it comes out. i think a major drawback is in general public needed a m/c license
    in order to drive it

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    Another delay until the end of 2015.

    Some people have been waiting with their deposits for about four years plus now.

    I think its time to quit reviving this thread. All we have done is point and counterpoint over all the issues.

    How about reviving this when the Elios are actually being produced and customer orders are being filled. Till then--I see nothing new or worth talking about.


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    Default I'm still waiting on the Dale!!!

    Best car EVER!!!!!!

    http://gas2.org/2013/08/21/the-elio-...s-like-a-dale/


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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    I think its time to quit reviving this thread.
    If I don't like a thread, I don't read it. Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rando View Post
    If I don't like a thread, I don't read it. Just saying.
    Sorry on this one--but I am a "Consumer Advocate."

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    Can we all agree, that it would be better for everyone involved; if he CAN bring it to market?
    The odds of him doing so, are irrelevant for this part of the discussion.
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