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Truth or lie????
Dealer is telling me I need a maintenance agreement.....I don't like the fact that they push them so much. Seems to me there is a good reason why.
also told me that the 2014 RS has to have oil changes at the dealership due to needing to be hooked up to BUDS. If you do the oil change yourself it will go into limp mode and won't go past 1st gear?? Is that true?
BUDS is needed to reset it after oil change???
i am going to the dealer to hopefully purchase on sat ???there is too much stuff with these trikes that makes the process more complex.
do I need an extended warranty?? I am not financing through them so they are not happy.....my finance company will not finance warranties or maintenance agreements and I do not have thousands more to put down on the Spyder.
all chime in please I need some advice!!
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Don't walk........ Run!!
Originally Posted by SpyderGAAZ
Dealer is telling me I need a maintenance agreement.....I don't like the fact that they push them so much. Seems to me there is a good reason why.
also told me that the 2014 RS has to have oil changes at the dealership due to needing to be hooked up to BUDS. If you do the oil change yourself it will go into limp mode and won't go past 1st gear?? Is that true?
BUDS is needed to reset it after oil change???
i am going to the dealer to hopefully purchase on sat ???there is too much stuff with these trikes that makes the process more complex.
do I need an extended warranty?? I am not financing through them so they are not happy.....my finance company will not finance warranties or maintenance agreements and I do not have thousands more to put down on the Spyder.
all chime in please I need some advice!!
DING!!!? That's the sound of the BS bell.
Find another dealer. Or, suffer the conseqences.
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Originally Posted by SpyderGAAZ
Dealer is telling me I need a maintenance agreement.....I don't like the fact that they push them so much. Seems to me there is a good reason why.
also told me that the 2014 RS has to have oil changes at the dealership due to needing to be hooked up to BUDS. If you do the oil change yourself it will go into limp mode and won't go past 1st gear?? Is that true?
BUDS is needed to reset it after oil change???
i am going to the dealer to hopefully purchase on sat ???there is too much stuff with these trikes that makes the process more complex.
do I need an extended warranty?? I am not financing through them so they are not happy.....my finance company will not finance warranties or maintenance agreements and I do not have thousands more to put down on the Spyder.
all chime in please I need some advice!!
I would go to another dealer.
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No way..!!
extended warranty is an option and you have up to the day your factory warranty expires to purchase it. Mainteance contracts are new and may help those that don't do their own work but are also an option. I do suggest they do the first service so they check break in with buds (not required for oil changes). After that you can do your own work and have it hooked up from time to time to the buds system for updateds and stored codes...hope you have other dealers around or find someone there that is better informed...!!
2012 RS sm5 , 998cc V-Twin 106hp DIY brake and park brake Classic Black
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Find another dealer, sounds like a lot of BS to me.o
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Looks like the only promotion with free BEST warranty is on the 2013's
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Originally Posted by SpyderGAAZ
Dealer is telling me I need a maintenance agreement.....I don't like the fact that they push them so much. Seems to me there is a good reason why.
also told me that the 2014 RS has to have oil changes at the dealership due to needing to be hooked up to BUDS. If you do the oil change yourself it will go into limp mode and won't go past 1st gear?? Is that true?
BUDS is needed to reset it after oil change???
i am going to the dealer to hopefully purchase on sat ???there is too much stuff with these trikes that makes the process more complex.
do I need an extended warranty?? I am not financing through them so they are not happy.....my finance company will not finance warranties or maintenance agreements and I do not have thousands more to put down on the Spyder.
all chime in please I need some advice!!
Maintenance agreements are only worthwhile if....
- You are happy with the dealer and plan to have your Spyder serviced there for the life of the agreement. Most are three year deals. Service agreements don't move around from dealer to dealer.
- The dealer is betting that you will be like the average motorcycle rider and put less than 5,000 miles per year on your machine. That gets you three service intervals in the three years. You pay for six so the money for the other three goes in the dealer's pocket. If you do use all six, you will need to drive over 25,000 miles in the three year period.
-The extended warranty makes sense but it also makes sense to wait until the Spyder is a few month's from expiry on the factory warranty. Prices fluctuate and it may be cheaper to wait. Also, you may decide to sell the Spyder. (although it is transferable).
I think the dealer you are talking to is being dishonest with you. If they do that now, I believe you will get more dishonesty in the future. I would find another place to buy the Spyder.
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74 Honda 360T (pair); 78 Suzuki GS 1000 (pair); 82 Honda Aspencade; 84 Honda 400; 87 Yamaha 1100; 99 Honda Valkyrie; 01 Suzuki Burgman(triked); 02 Honda GL 1800(triked); 10 Spyder RTSE; 11 Spyder RTSM; 12 Spyder RTSL (pair); 20 Spyder RTL (current)
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAT
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Originally Posted by Double Trouble
Maintenance agreements are only worthwhile if....
- You are happy with the dealer and plan to have your Spyder serviced there for the life of the agreement. Most are three year deals. Service agreements don't move around from dealer to dealer.
- The dealer is betting that you will be like the average motorcycle rider and put less than 5,000 miles per year on your machine. That gets you three service intervals in the three years. You pay for six so the money for the other three goes in the dealer's pocket. If you do use all six, you will need to drive over 25,000 miles in the three year period.
-The extended warranty makes sense but it also makes sense to wait until the Spyder is a few month's from expiry on the factory warranty. Prices fluctuate and it may be cheaper to wait. Also, you may decide to sell the Spyder. (although it is transferable).
I think the dealer you are talking to is being dishonest with you. If they do that now, I believe you will get more dishonesty in the future. I would find another place to buy the Spyder.
Another thing worth mentioning is that you can shop around with different dealers on the extended warranty. They can all write them
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NOT EXACTLY
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TOTAL BS! One reason to push Ext Warranties is the profit margin. A dealer can sell you a policy at whatever price he wants over his cost. A $900 cost to you is about a $250 cost to dealer. Tell this turkey that you are not a turnip fresh fallen off the truck. Better yet, don't even give him the courtesy for calling him back. What he gave you was nothing but lies. We are on our 2nd Spyder and I have never taken either bike back to the dealer for anything but warranty/recall maintenance. I also sold Honda MC for four years so I am somewhat knowledged in what I am saying.
2008 GS SE5 in 2008
Traded at 43,000 miles for a left over
2010 RT SM5 in 2011
Traded at 57,000 for a left over
2014 RTS SE6 in 2015, which has 35,000 miles
Oct 19th, 2017, totaled 2014 RT while killing a Javaline
Dec 12th, 2017 drove a 2017 F3L home. What an awesome machine!
Never had any breakdown stranded issues.
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Do you really need a maintenance agreement?
[QUOTE=SpyderGAAZ;835414]Dealer is telling me I need a maintenance agreement.....I don't like the fact that they push them so much. Seems to me there is a good reason why.
also told me that the 2014 RS has to have oil changes at the dealership due to needing to be hooked up to BUDS. If you do the oil change yourself it will go into limp mode and won't go past 1st gear?? Is that true?
BUDS is needed to reset it after oil change???
i am going to the dealer to hopefully purchase on sat ???there is too much stuff with these trikes that makes the process more complex.
do I need an extended warranty?? I am not financing through them so they are not happy.....my finance company will not finance warranties or maintenance agreements and I do not have thousands more to put down on the Spyder.
all chime in please I need some advice!![/QUOTE
Most of what the dealer told you was BS. However, I'll jump on the "counterpoint" side of this. I know nothing about motors, oil, tires, VSS, DPS, GPS or any other S.
Consequently, when I bought my 2013 RT-S in December of 2012, I opted for the maintenance agreement. It cost me $1,500.00. To date I have not paid a plug nickle for any of my services, etc. I have a little over 18,000 miles and I've used 5 (I think) services. I have one left and I'm using it for my 22,000 mile maintenance and services. It has been well worth it and a friend to me.
Chris PS: [edit] Maintenance agreements and extended warranties are two different things.
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Originally Posted by MouthPiece
Maintenance agreements and extended warranties are two different things.
nice; but certainly not a requirement!
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My Dealer did not offer Maintenance agreement or extended warranty option. I think because by that time he already knew what a cheap B*t*h I was and that I had done my home work. A month before my 2 year warranty ran out I shopped around for the 3 year extended BEST warranty. Prices were all the way up to 1500.00 to 699.00 so it pays to shop around.
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How close are you to South Carolina? Check out Velocity Powersports in Summerville.
Like others said, run away. Find another dealer. Some dealers do offer the maintenance package. Friend of mine has it on both his new Spyders. It is not mandatory.
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Wow...talk about consensus
Thanks to Doc for the conversation ....you set my mind at ease
thanks for all the responses I am going to a different dealer sat and if they try the same &$@)I am going to tell them to stick it! My husband told be they were full of it and you all confirmed it. Trouble is I am hearing the I told you song!
I will give him this one thanks again guys
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Some great info and insight in this thread.
Here's a question....my dealer offered me a 5 year bumper to bumper warranty, transferrable if I sell early, dealer agnostic (good at any dealer) for right around 1k. It felt like a no-brainer and I purchased it. Would that be an actual good deal warranty, if there is such a thing?
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Originally Posted by StealthSpyder
Some great info and insight in this thread.
Here's a question....my dealer offered me a 5 year bumper to bumper warranty, transferrable if I sell early, dealer agnostic (good at any dealer) for right around 1k. It felt like a no-brainer and I purchased it. Would that be an actual good deal warranty, if there is such a thing?
A pretty good warranty for 1K. One major repair could eat up your original cost for the package. Do you mind mentioning what warranty company?
Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.
Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)
MY FINAL TALLY: 7 Spyders, 15 years, 205,500 miles
IT HAS BEEN A LONG, WONDERFUL, AND FUN RIDE.
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As long as it's good at any dealership...
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Originally Posted by SpyderGAAZ
Thanks to Doc for the conversation ....you set my mind at ease
thanks for all the responses I am going to a different dealer sat and if they try the same &$@)I am going to tell them to stick it! My husband told be they were full of it and you all confirmed it. Trouble is I am hearing the I told you song!
I will give him this one thanks again guys
It would be damn funny if you printed this thread and showed it to the dealer
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Originally Posted by SpyderGAAZ
Dealer is telling me I need a maintenance agreement.....I don't like the fact that they push them so much. Seems to me there is a good reason why.
also told me that the 2014 RS has to have oil changes at the dealership due to needing to be hooked up to BUDS. If you do the oil change yourself it will go into limp mode and won't go past 1st gear?? Is that true?
BUDS is needed to reset it after oil change???
i am going to the dealer to hopefully purchase on sat ???there is too much stuff with these trikes that makes the process more complex.
do I need an extended warranty?? I am not financing through them so they are not happy.....my finance company will not finance warranties or maintenance agreements and I do not have thousands more to put down on the Spyder.
all chime in please I need some advice!!
OIL CHANGE in the 2014 RS Operator's Guide on page 103 and the next few pages are instructions for the owner to change the oil and filters. I think it's a good for the dealer to do the first 600 mile maintenance. As for the extended warranty you can get that later, anytime before the 2 year warranty runs out. That gives you time to save up the money and call other dealers to get the best price and YES the extended warranty is worth it. I have a 2011 RS-S SE5 I see you live in Ga. so do I and if you want me to show you how to change oil send me a PM.. also BajaRon sells oil change kits at very good price. That's IMHO.
Mike
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Originally Posted by StealthSpyder
Some great info and insight in this thread.
Here's a question....my dealer offered me a 5 year bumper to bumper warranty, transferrable if I sell early, dealer agnostic (good at any dealer) for right around 1k. It felt like a no-brainer and I purchased it. Would that be an actual good deal warranty, if there is such a thing?
Sounds like the BEST warranty. 3 years with a $50 deductible per occurance. Factory is 2 years + the 3 BEST = 5 years.
If this is what you have I had purchased that last year for $699.00.
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