Gear chatter in neutral?

[Yazz]

Does this seem to be a manual or SE6 also problem?

Mine's a SM, it's happened to a SE too... Read post # 13.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...-take-her-away

Don't think all the F3s are having the problem.

[BeRight]

Mine's a SM, it's happened to a SE too... Read post # 13.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...-take-her-away

Don't think all the F3s are having the problem.

What is the latest from your dealer about this issue??

[Yazz]

Was swayed by Hubby and a few others to ride the F3 up to SpyderFest and let Len at PitBulls to take a look at the chatter. BRP's best mechanics will be here too so the best people would be looking over the F3.

Took her over today and Len listened to the left hand engine when it was hotted up. He said "Take my F3 for a ride. Both F3s have about the same milage."

Sure enough, his F3 makes the same chatter in neutral with the clutch let out like mine. So does Lamonster's. (Didn't ride the Triple Threat, but I believe him.) Can't precisely explain what was told me, but it's something to do with the hydraulic clutch lifters.

So for me, case is closed. Going to have a good time up here and I'll ...

See you at the races.

[reissooz]

- good news!!

[1blackbeauty]

Was swayed by Hubby and a few others to ride the F3 up to SpyderFest and let Len at PitBulls to take a look at the chatter. BRP's best mechanics will be here too so the best people would be looking over the F3.

Took her over today and Len listened to the left hand engine when it was hotted up. He said "Take my F3 for a ride. Both F3s have about the same milage."

Sure enough, his F3 makes the same chatter in neutral with the clutch let out like mine. So does Lamonster's. (Didn't ride the Triple Threat, but I believe him.) Can't precisely explain what was told me, but it's something to do with the hydraulic clutch lifters.

So for me, case is closed. Going to have a good time up here and I'll ...

See you at the races.

Hydraulic clutch lifters. so only the SM6 has this noise he is saying?

[spyderyderjim]

Was swayed by Hubby and a few others to ride the F3 up to SpyderFest and let Len at PitBulls to take a look at the chatter. BRP's best mechanics will be here too so the best people would be looking over the F3.

Took her over today and Len listened to the left hand engine when it was hotted up. He said "Take my F3 for a ride. Both F3s have about the same milage."

Sure enough, his F3 makes the same chatter in neutral with the clutch let out like mine. So does Lamonster's. (Didn't ride the Triple Threat, but I believe him.) Can't precisely explain what was told me, but it's something to do with the hydraulic clutch lifters.

So for me, case is closed. Going to have a good time up here and I'll ...

See you at the races.

Thanks for update post.
If you get a chance ask Len if Chris pulled your F3 bigger sized oil drain plug to check if green o ring is torn.
I found my new 2015 F3S SE6 (first oil change) green o ring sliced/torn from factory.
It affects the oil supply to hydraulic clutch.
I am betting you pull off a F3 win in the drags!!
Enjoy Spyderfest.
Jim

[Mo Lee]

Was swayed by Hubby and a few others to ride the F3 up to SpyderFest and let Len at PitBulls to take a look at the chatter. BRP's best mechanics will be here too so the best people would be looking over the F3.

Took her over today and Len listened to the left hand engine when it was hotted up. He said "Take my F3 for a ride. Both F3s have about the same milage."

Sure enough, his F3 makes the same chatter in neutral with the clutch let out like mine. So does Lamonster's. (Didn't ride the Triple Threat, but I believe him.) Can't precisely explain what was told me, but it's something to do with the hydraulic clutch lifters.

So for me, case is closed. Going to have a good time up here and I'll ...

See you at the races.

Glad to hear you gained a little confidence back. I forgot to tell you but I was talking to another dealer a couple of weeks ago, they had heard to noise as well and believed it was because of the lack of tupperware covering the engine like the RT has. Let's just hope it don't become another recall down the road.
Maybe I'll see you at the 1/4? 1/8? 100yds? Friday afternoon.

[Yazz]

Hydraulic clutch lifters. so only the SM6 has this noise he is saying?

All transmissions have to shift somehow, be they SMs or SEs. Maybe it's the same reason on both types.

Thanks for update post.
If you get a chance ask Len if Chris pulled your F3 bigger sized oil drain plug to check if green o ring is torn.

I found my new 2015 F3S SE6 (first oil change) green o ring sliced/torn from factory.
It affects the oil supply to hydraulic clutch.
I am betting you pull off a F3 win in the drags!!
Enjoy Spyderfest.
Jim

A torn O ring does not sound good. Haven't had an oil change yet but will tell the mech to keep a lookout for one.

After getting a proper O ring put in, did the chatter go away?

If I win or lose at the drags, it's all good fun.

Glad to hear you gained a little confidence back. I forgot to tell you but I was talking to another dealer a couple of weeks ago, they had heard to noise as well and believed it was because of the lack of tupperware covering the engine like the RT has. Let's just hope it don't become another recall down the road.
Maybe I'll see you at the 1/4? 1/8? 100yds? Friday afternoon.

[Yazz]

Glad to hear you gained a little confidence back. I forgot to tell you but I was talking to another dealer a couple of weeks ago, they had heard to noise as well and believed it was because of the lack of tupperware covering the engine like the RT has. Let's just hope it don't become another recall down the road.
Maybe I'll see you at the 1/4? 1/8? 100yds? Friday afternoon.

Having problems posting with my iPad...

Maybe it is a more open engine is the answer to the question. I surely hope so. Time will tell... Been having more fun riding now I know I don't have to baby the tranny.

That would be very interesting if we happened to bump into each other Friday afternoon...

[Deanna777]

Good luck getting your F3 fixed, have fun @ SF.
Is the Gear chatter only happen in Neutral?
*** you go girl @ the drag races***
Deanna

[BeRight]

CANAMCHRIS - see his thread - BRP is/has shipped out a new engine for his F3 and had dealer ship his present engine (pebble grinding sound) back to them for analysis.

His dealer told me to ride mine until BRP finishes their analysis of his engine and decides how to move forward - it could be awhile - awhile meaning who knows when. His and now my dealer did notify BRP that my engine has same noise (sent video clip of noise to BRP - which is identical to CANAMCHRIS'S).

I've owned several cars, trucks, motorcycles, 08' Spyder GS until 2015 and never heard an engine make this kind of noise before. But that's just me.
So - BRP is replacing his engine and us others (yes my F3-S SE6 has this noise) are to believe there is not an issue - it is a feature - Hmmmmmmmm well maybe/maybe not a feature. Maybe not same noise as SM6 - maybe it is

[Mo Lee]

Having problems posting with my iPad...

Maybe it is a more open engine is the answer to the question. I surely hope so. Time will tell... Been having more fun riding now I know I don't have to baby the tranny.

That would be very interesting if we happened to bump into each other Friday afternoon...

Girl I've been dropping hints and come right out and ask a couple of F3 owners ever since BRP announced it, that I would like to run one with my GS. You seem to be the only one who has what it takes , so I would be honored to let you be the one to "SHOW ME"

[james8luc8]

Ya my f3s does the same thing in neutral when hot - goes away when you push the clutch in, or give it some fuel funny thing is I met 2 other people with f3 sm6 on the road sound the exact same - doesn't bother me but thank God for warrenty

[jcasey]

Mine does this also. Dealer told me it was normal. Sounds to me like a throwout bearing noise that we used to hear in older cars.Will be watching this post. Maybe if we start calling BRP we could get something done. If only the dealer knows they probably don't tell BRP.

[petegtsv10]

Many Vettes , Vipers, etc. have what is commonly known as NGR......neutral gear rattle. My Victory also had it. It occurs in N with the clutch lever out. I'm not diagnosing your noise, but am just saying that it happens elsewhere.

[griffontamer]

Isn't this the same "pebble grinding" noise another member has experienced early on and had his whole engine replaced by BRP? Mine has done a milder version of that noise from the beginning, when warmed up, in neutral. I think it's fairly common, if it is what I think it is.

[CanAmChris]

Mine does this also. Dealer told me it was normal. Sounds to me like a throwout bearing noise that we used to hear in older cars.Will be watching this post. Maybe if we start calling BRP we could get something done. If only the dealer knows they probably don't tell BRP.

Ya my f3s does the same thing in neutral when hot - goes away when you push the clutch in, or give it some fuel funny thing is I met 2 other people with f3 sm6 on the road sound the exact same - doesn't bother me but thank God for warrenty

Isn't this the same "pebble grinding" noise another member has experienced early on and had his whole engine replaced by BRP? Mine has done a milder version of that noise from the beginning, when warmed up, in neutral. I think it's fairly common, if it is what I think it is.

My fellow Spyder lovers, everything is fine with the F3 motor. In the end, it was what I though. Machines make strange noises. I heard a sound that perked my ears up because I had not heard the 'pebble' sound before.

The unsolicited advice I have for everyone here is to not worry about the 1330 ACE motor unless you start to notice a performance problem. If you get on the throttle and it pulls hard, you are fine.

For any conspiracy theorists out there...I have had no direct contact with BRP on this issue. Everything went through my dealer. The dealer took a monetary lose swapping out the motor but took care of me above and beyond my expectations.

My F3 still makes strange noises sometimes. Do I worry about it? No. I just ride it like I stole it and have a blast.

Regards,
CanAmChris

[james8luc8]

Ya I agree with canam chris just drive it -

[Xyzzy]

My 1330 sounds a lot quieter and smoother at idle now that it has 7,000 miles on it. When I first got it the sound it made concerned me a little.

YMMV