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Hi all, seriously considering a Spyder and quick question here.

I took a test ride on Saturday and found the Spyder very intriguing. (Got lost on my test ride, pulled out my iPhone, and got directions without getting off the Spyder! Gotta love that.) However, on tight right hand turns, it felt like the inside front wheel was going to lift on me.

By way of background, I'm a biker, my current ride is a Triumph 955cc sport tourer, and I rode quads when I was a teenager. Is feeling like it's going to tip up on you a common sensation for new riders? Do the electronics keep you from actually lofting a wheel or tipping in such situations? Has anyone here or that you've heard of managed to flip one over?
 
This is much more like a fourwheeler than a motorcycle. You can lift the wheel but it's pretty hard to do because the SCS will kick in before there's a real issue.

welcome

 
Hi all, seriously considering a Spyder and quick question here.

I took a test ride on Saturday and found the Spyder very intriguing. (Got lost on my test ride, pulled out my iPhone, and got directions without getting off the Spyder! Gotta love that.) However, on tight right hand turns, it felt like the inside front wheel was going to lift on me.

By way of background, I'm a biker, my current ride is a Triumph 955cc sport tourer, and I rode quads when I was a teenager. Is feeling like it's going to tip up on you a common sensation for new riders? Do the electronics keep you from actually lofting a wheel or tipping in such situations? Has anyone here or that you've heard of managed to flip one over?

Tightening the shocks up to level 4 or 5 corrects the inside front wheel pitch; that is, the suspension acts more like the sport-car a-frame suspension that BRP advertises. I believe the factory setting is at 3, a bit loose for me (6'2" 210#)

You can lift a wheel if you're too aggressive and the VSS will work to bring it back down. You could probably flip it too, but no more so than flipping a car (IMHO); drive aggressive and erratic, you can probably cause all kinds of hurt.
 
If you lean - the feeling of tire tip goes away.

I did lift the tire once -- going about 40mph and almost missed a left turn - I made a very tight left w/ little lean and the left tire very briefly came 4-6 inches up - the right tire was plenty of rubber to bite.
 
Hi all, seriously considering a Spyder and quick question here.

I took a test ride on Saturday and found the Spyder very intriguing. (Got lost on my test ride, pulled out my iPhone, and got directions without getting off the Spyder! Gotta love that.) However, on tight right hand turns, it felt like the inside front wheel was going to lift on me.

By way of background, I'm a biker, my current ride is a Triumph 955cc sport tourer, and I rode quads when I was a teenager. Is feeling like it's going to tip up on you a common sensation for new riders? Do the electronics keep you from actually lofting a wheel or tipping in such situations? Has anyone here or that you've heard of managed to flip one over?

If you are used to quads, like me, then countering the tip shouldn't be a problem for you. Before I got my Spyder I raced quads and I now use the same counter tip technique as I did when racing quads on the Spyder. However, I'm less aggressive on the Spyder as I'm never actually racing anyone!! :2thumbs:
 
If you are used to quads, like me, then countering the tip shouldn't be a problem for you. Before I got my Spyder I raced quads and I now use the same counter tip technique as I did when racing quads on the Spyder. However, I'm less aggressive on the Spyder as I'm never actually racing anyone!! :2thumbs:
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Hi, Jim. After 27-28 two-wheelers, I also considered and bought the Spyder. It is a different ride... like an off-road quad... but once you get used to it, it handles superbly.

The rider must lean to the inside of a curve. How much? It depends on your speed and the curve.

In addition, for twisty riding, a small amount of "butt-shift" (to the inside) helps tremendously. I rarely encounter stability system activation, or wheel lift, using these riding methods. When I do occasionally lift the inside wheel at speed, the stability system counters and corrects before I even recognize it.

It will provide a workout for your legs and upper body, however, in "gripping" the bike in the twisties. To help that, I typically place the toes of my boots under the brake pedal and shift lever and use knee-height grip pads on the bike.

In any case, the ride takes some acclimation. Once you are used to it, you may find, as I did, that riding on two wheels is not nearly as much "fun" as it once was. :thumbup:



Hi all, seriously considering a Spyder and quick question here.

I took a test ride on Saturday and found the Spyder very intriguing. (Got lost on my test ride, pulled out my iPhone, and got directions without getting off the Spyder! Gotta love that.) However, on tight right hand turns, it felt like the inside front wheel was going to lift on me.

By way of background, I'm a biker, my current ride is a Triumph 955cc sport tourer, and I rode quads when I was a teenager. Is feeling like it's going to tip up on you a common sensation for new riders? Do the electronics keep you from actually lofting a wheel or tipping in such situations? Has anyone here or that you've heard of managed to flip one over?
 
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I have lifted the tire once since I have had it. Was worried myself what would happen. But the Stability Control immediately kicked in. The engine lost just enough power to bring me back onto the pavement. It all happened so fast, couldn't even count to one.
 
:agree:I lean and it makes for a more stable and fun ride...

Hi, Jim. After 27-28 two-wheelers, I also considered and bought the Spyder. It is a different ride... like an off-road quad... but once you get used to it, it handles superbly.

The rider must lean to the inside of a curve. How much? It depends on your speed and the curve.

In addition, for aggressive twisty riding, a small amount of "butt-shift" (to the inside) helps tremendously. I rarely encounter stability system activation, or wheel lift, using these riding methods. When I do occasionally lift the inside wheel at speed, the stability system counters and corrects before I even recognize it.

The group I ride with includes a Yamaha FJR1300, Kawa Concours 1400, Suzuki 1000, Honda ST1300 and Triumph Speed Triple. I have very few problems keeping up except at the top end.

It will provide a workout for your legs and upper body, however, in "gripping" the bike in the twisties. To help that, I typically place the toes of my boots under the brake pedal and shift lever and use knee-height grip pads on the bike.

In any case, the ride takes some acclimation. Once you are used to it, you may find, as I did, that riding on two wheels is not nearly as much "fun" as it once was. :thumbup:
 
Hi all, seriously considering a Spyder and quick question here.

I took a test ride on Saturday and found the Spyder very intriguing. (Got lost on my test ride, pulled out my iPhone, and got directions without getting off the Spyder! Gotta love that.) However, on tight right hand turns, it felt like the inside front wheel was going to lift on me.

By way of background, I'm a biker, my current ride is a Triumph 955cc sport tourer, and I rode quads when I was a teenager. Is feeling like it's going to tip up on you a common sensation for new riders? Do the electronics keep you from actually lofting a wheel or tipping in such situations? Has anyone here or that you've heard of managed to flip one over?
Yep when i first got my SE5 in Oct i was comming around a corner a bit too fast and watched my front right tire come off the ground but the VSS kicked in lickitysplit and almost threw me over the handlebars lol scared the livin ****e outta me puckered my butthole up real quick lol but that VSS works just like it says it does. just realize u cant ride a spyder like u do a regular bike they cant take corners as fast as a reg bike.im sure if i took a corner doing 70 mph u might just flip it regardless of the VSS not sure if it would be able to correct u or not at higher speeds i would guess not.but all the other stuff about the spyder makes up for that. I Love my Spyder best 21k i ever spent
 
The more experience I get on the Spyder (2500 miles since mid-October), the more I believe you definitely can take corners as fast on them as on a two wheeler. (I think Lamonster could probably address this better), but... no matter how fast you ride, you have to be wise about your entry speed, visibility, line (on a 2-wheeler), etc. into a corner. No matter whether it's posted as 35 mph or 55 mph a bike can go through that corner much faster than posted limit. I find the Spyder can safely take any corner that I would take on my other bikes (and I ride with Speed Triple and Hypermotard rider who's attended more than one traffic school :() - it just takes a different technique and a bit more effort due to the fact you're steering through it and not just "leaning" through it as on a 2 wheeler. I actually find myself going faster through some corners than I would on my other bikes just because I know that a patch of gravel in a corner isn't going to affect me as negatively. After first couple of weeks of riding, I haven't had the VSS correct me in any corner, no matter what speed as long as I'm smooth through it and don't back off the throttle or attempt to brake at any time. It just gets "funner" by the day!
 
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