Tri Axis Adjustable Handlebars bolt fell out while ridding

[NEXUS]

I have a question on the Tri Axis Adjustable Handlebars to someone that has installed them.

What would cause the bolt holding the handle bars to come out and nut to fall off ?

I have looked for a parts break down with no luck or instillation guide.

Does the nut on the bolt that holds the handle bars in a nylon lock nut?

I had a very close call happen to me this weekend and am trying to understand what could
have caused this to happen other than the nut was not tighten. :yikes:

I did not install them it was put on a 2014 RT at the dealer.

Anything would be helpful

Thanks

Nexus

 

[Bob Denman]

Whoevever put them on for you :shocked:... needs to be talked to! :gaah:
The bolt was either NOT tightened sufficiently, or it broke... :yikes:
Please let us know what ths shop plans to do about this; Good Luck! :thumbup:

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

What bolt? There are many on that bar, was it an install bolt or one of the bolts that make the mechanism work? If it was an install bolt bitch to whom ever installed the bars, if it was one of the mechanism bolts then the factory left it loose but the installer should have checked these as well.

 

[OJ UK]

Whoevever put them on for you :shocked:... needs to be talked to! :gaah:
The bolt was either NOT tightened sufficiently, or it broke... :yikes:
Please let us know what ths shop plans to do about this; Good Luck! :thumbup:

I agree with Bob. The bar has been incorrectly installed and I would now be politely
asking the dealer if he would like to start over and perhaps fit the bar correctly.
Handlebar mountings do not come loose any more than wheels just fall off.
This amounts to negligence. It could have led to severe consequences.

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: The rest of their "handywork" under the plastic needs closer scrutiny.

 

[jcthorne]

The bolt your photo refers to is a custom machined shoulder bolt and is held in with a nylon insert nut. If it came off, it was not installed properly. I have installed two sets of these bars now. Let me know if you need any other information.

 

[NEXUS]

The bolt your photo refers to is a custom machined shoulder bolt and is held in with a nylon insert bolt. If it came off, it was not installed properly. I have installed two sets of these bars now. Let me know if you need any other information.

To begin with I'm not trying to blame the dealer or his mechanic just trying
to put the events together that could've caused this by the evidence that's their.

The dealer knows about this and it will be back there this week.

What I'm trying to do is find out how this could have happened by someone who
has installed this already and could see what might've happened.

Thanks

Nexus

 

[ARtraveler]

A bad situation for sure, but why go on you tube for all the world to see. Your video does not explain that the handlebars in question are not factory installed, but were installed by someone else. Without making that point, the impression is that BRP is sending out new 2014 LTD Spyders with handlebars not attached right. Sounds like dealer installation error to me. Since no one got hurt and no one was involved in an accident, I don't see any lawsuit fodder. Say what you are going to say, but all the facts should be presented if you are going to go viral with this. :dontknow::dontknow:

 

[jcthorne]

To begin with I'm not trying to blame the dealer or his mechanic just trying
to put the events together that could've caused this by the evidence that's their.

The dealer knows about this and it will be back there this week.

What I'm trying to do is find out how this could have happened by someone who
has installed this already and could see what might've happened.

Thanks

Nexus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW3GcQ3-yvc&feature=youtu.be

Don't know why you posted this youtube vid or this response, I gave you the answer to the question you posted and its a very simple one. Either the wrong nut was installed (none of the other ones in the kit will fit) or it was not properly installed. Period. Its a safe design, not some inherent flaw.

Does not matter blame, matters it needs to be fixed properly. Have the dealer pick up the bike and fix it. You know what happened now. If there is specific additional information you are looking for, please ask.

 

[NancysToy]

Don't know why you posted this youtube vid or this response, I gave you the answer to the question you posted and its a very simple one. Either the wrong nut was installed (none of the other ones in the kit will fit) or it was not properly installed. Period. Its a safe design, not some inherent flaw.

Does not matter blame, matters it needs to be fixed properly. Have the dealer pick up the bike and fix it. You know what happened now. If there is specific additional information you are looking for, please ask.

I wholeheartedly agree. Improper installation, plain and simple...and it is the dealer's responsibility to fetch it and fix it ASAP.

 

[spyder-dude]

This could have been a huge fatal accident! Lucky that you are still here to tell about it. I am curious to what the dealer says and does!

 

[NEXUS]

This could have been a huge fatal accident! Lucky that you are still here to tell about it. I am curious to what the dealer says and does!

Okay,
let's finish the handlebar story.
I took it to the dealer walked it into the mechanics bay and stood there while they
took off the rubber shroud underneath the handlebars.

The Allen headed bolt had slid out from one side but was still through the other. The nut
that should have been on the Allen headed bolt was laying in a little crevice
underneath the handlebars.

The mechanic picked it up with a magnet laid it on the seat I picked it up and looked at it
and I cannot see if it was ever tightened from looking at the inside of the nut.

This is not a typical nylon lock nut but a metal serrated end lock nut.

They put the lock nut back on with a torque wrench and allen wrench to hold the bolt
and it was through the nut about 3/8 of an inch.

Even with it torqued to proper setting it still felt loose from side to side so they ended
up putting new bushings in it and that made a big difference.

Everything worked out though the service manager and the owner son apologize for
the problem and compensated me for having to drive it back hundred 120 miles to the
dealer and having to have it towed from the Shenandoah Parkway.

Personally I don't think it was ever tightened. I just can't believe a lock nut could unscrewed
in 250 miles.

Moral of the story never say never because really anything can happen even if it's never
happened before. Luckily nothing happened everything worked out but the possibility
could have been severe if I had slid off the mountain it probably would've been contributed
to ice on the road as they cleaned up the wreckage.

Nexus


Spring Beam Nut:
This type of nut has thin slots cut down through the top few threads with the resulting fingers bent slightly inward. \
At installation, the bolt springs the fingers out and the fingers grip the bolt with a prevailing torque.

 

[Bob Denman]

It sounds as if they stepped up to the plate for you! :thumbup:
:congrats: to a happy ending, to what could have been; a very unhappy story! :2thumbs:

 

[SpyderAnn01]

Good to hear that they took care of you. Also, scary to think that you are probably right about what would have happened if you had gone off the mountain. Really happy that you didn't!

 

[bruiser]

I sure hope they used a new nut. These type nuts are one time use.

 

[NancysToy]

I sure hope they used a new nut. These type nuts are one time use.

??? The nylock nuts are one time use, but the all metal versions have always been said to be multiple use.

 

[bruiser]

Any lock nut looses it's friction holding ability after initial use. Prevailing torque lock nuts like the one mentioned, loose up to 25% prevailing torque during first assembly. This means a higher tightening torque during reuse. There is also some thread damage to nut and bolt using these type nuts. I guess coming from a military aircraft background and civilian specialized equipment service background, we were always told lock nuts were a one time use. Even in engineering classes we were told the same thing. Maybe in the civilian world it depends on the criticality of the use. I guess it would be up to the individual.