Toy hauler

[rcdurango]

Not sure why? But now Judy wants a toy hauler. Any advise on what's out there would help.

 

[Dustybell]

Hi, I can tell you my experiences with a toy hauler. I love it! Last fall we got a bumper pull one and now have it for sale because we have moved to a fifth wheel one.

You can get them with the "garage" part that is separated from the living part by a wall or you can get one where it is all open. You pull the bikes in and when you unload, you lower your couches, dinnette chairs, and bed. Most of them have a full bathroom, bathroom sink, kitchen sink, refrigerator, oven, microwave, and built in generator. All the comforts of home.

My friend has one where the garage is separate. It is a 10 foot garage. He bought it before they got their spyder. They can either haul his motorcycle or the spyder, but not both.

Ours are all open. We can pull the spyder in first (all the way up into the kitchen) then load the motorcycle behind it.

Just depends on what you are going to do with it. They are great RV's to use for more than motorcycles. We have hauled canoes, 4-wheelers, I've even seen people put small vehicles in them.

 

[NancysToy]

Your choice would also depend on what you have to haul it with, unless you are getting a new tow rig. The weights of these are generally understated, and there are very few true lightweights on the market. Be skeptical of the "half-ton towable" claims.

 

[Mainiac]

Great Deal

The best deal out there is the one that I'm selling. The bad thing is that it is located in Texas. Brand new, used only once.

http://www.rvt.com/rvdetail4898916.htm. I would let it go for $19,000 to a spyder lover.

 

[Erags]

Damon Outlaw

We have a Class A motorhome Toy Hauler, last year we did 4500 miles in the Toy Hauler and did 7000 miles on the Spyder in 10 weeks. We were in Cuba for Spyderfest and now we are heading to Durango and the to Spyders in the Redwoods. The rig is 38 feet. They do also have a Class C toy hauler.

Most of this is how much do you want to spend and how much are you going to use it.

If you want pictures, just pm and if you are around us, we will be happy to show it to you.

 

[Dustybell]

Your choice would also depend on what you have to haul it with, unless you are getting a new tow rig. The weights of these are generally understated, and there are very few true lightweights on the market. Be skeptical of the "half-ton towable" claims.

Too true. The bumper pull we are selling is 21 feet. This is a small trailer compared to most. We pull it with a 3/4 ton truck and at times it is a load for this truck. You definitely would not want to pull it with a 1/2 ton truck.

When you consider the weight you will be pulling, be sure to factor in the weight of the generator fuel tank, water in the tank and how much your bikes weight.

 

[rcdurango]

thanks for the info

I think we will start small at this time. We're still working and wouldn't be able to use it as much as we would like. With that in mind
we where thinking of a smaller toy hauler to use mostly on weekend trips. As far as truck, we think that we should be able to get by
with what we now have. It's a 2011 F150 Lariat with 5.0 and toll package. Hoping that's all I would need. Gotta say that Palomino Puma
is really a nice one. Hopefully I can continue to get feedback from Spyderlovers so I make the right choices. Thanks again!

 

[Jeriatric]

I think we will start small at this time. We're still working and wouldn't be able to use it as much as we would like. With that in mind
we where thinking of a smaller toy hauler to use mostly on weekend trips. As far as truck, we think that we should be able to get by
with what we now have. It's a 2011 F150 Lariat with 5.0 and toll package. Hoping that's all I would need. Gotta say that Palomino Puma
is really a nice one. Hopefully I can continue to get feedback from Spyderlovers so I make the right choices. Thanks again!

With a half ton truck you'll be hard pressed to pull over a 24 footer (straight pull) regardless of whether you went with a straight pull or fifth wheel make sure both axles on the trailer have brakes, because your half ton is not sufficient brake wise. Also if you were to go with a straight pull, use nothing but an easy lift hitch system and the optional sway bar system(it's a friction bar that helps keep the pick up and trailer running in line in wind or for example when semis go screaming by. I'm sure you've seen and perhaps commented on how squirmy some trailers appear to become when a semi passes them. If I were thinking of towing with a half ton truck, my choice would be a fifth wheel. FWIW - and while it's not a lot, I have probably pulled recreational trailers, of one sort or another, over a million miles in my life. Everywhere from single axle to triple axle. Why? Participated in cars shows all over the united states.

And not to scare you but, just to give you some facts. The wheels on a half ton pickup are not designed for heavy towing and are subject to cracking. I've see it many times. Also, you'll get a much shorter life out of the rear tires because of all the stresses they are subjected to, not just towing in a straight line but anytime you're making right or left hand turns in a non freeway environment. Just some thing to be aware of, food for thought. Wish you nothing but the best and your asking for others to weigh in with their experiences was a very wise move. Good luck!

 

[SpyderAnn01]

We had a Jayco Talon ZX 24' toy hauler and it was great. It was built like a tank and was also pretty heavy. Advertised as 1/2 ton towable but was a bit much for an average 1/2 ton. We had a 2010 Toyota Tundra that pulled it adequately.

While I enjoyed the toy hauler and am amazed at trailers, fifth wheels and motorhomes for all the cool things that can be put on wheels it does make for some expensive camping if you don't use it a lot. With what we paid for ours (used), what we sold it for and the number of times we used it we could have stayed in 5 star hotels for the same amount of time. Granted there weren't any hotels 5 star or otherwise where we camped at but it was still pretty expensive as compred to staying in a hotel. Also, there is the insurance and storage costs along with maintenance.

 

[Phantom888]

This is what I use. I pull it with my chevy avalanche 1/2 ton. I love this rig because it is an expandable it has 2 queen beds that pop out the ends. I do have it for sale on craigslist just because I would like to upgrade to a class c. http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/rvs/2935018729.html

 

[NancysToy]

I don't want to scare you, either, but pulling a trailer that is very close to the tow rating on a truck can be scary and dangerous! I once crashed a truck/trailer that way when the trailer got nudged by adjacent traffic and started to sway. The truck didn't stand a chance, and was soon along for the ride. As was said, trailer manufacturers tend to downplay the weight...put one on the scales before you take their claims for granted. As was also said, be sure to take the fuel, water, and wastewater, as well as the vehicle load (and fuel) into account. You are better off with a fifth wheel version if you are going to tow a trailer that challenges your truck's tow rating. I won't haul a conventional trailer that weighs much more than 60%-70% of my truck's towing capacity anymore, but that's just me. I don't like to arrive at my destination a nervous wreck.

Other alternatives...
a) Haul the Spyder/bikes in a conventional enclosed trailer. At your destination, unload, put up cots or inflate an air bed (or build a fold-down bed), and sleep in the trailer. Arntufun and I have taken this route.
b) Find a lightweight truck camper, and pull an open trailer behind for the Spyder.

 

[arntufun]

I don't want to scare you, either, but pulling a trailer that is very close to the tow rating on a truck can be scary and dangerous! I once crashed a truck/trailer that way when the trailer got nudged by adjacent traffic and started to sway. The truck didn't stand a chance, and was soon along for the ride. As was said, trailer manufacturers tend to downplay the weight...put one on the scales before you take their claims for granted. As was also said, be sure to take the fuel, water, and wastewater, as well as the vehicle load (and fuel) into account. You are better off with a fifth wheel version if you are going to tow a trailer that challenges your truck's tow rating. I won't haul a conventional trailer that weighs much more than 60%-70% of my truck's towing capacity anymore, but that's just me. I don't like to arrive at my destination a nervous wreck.

Other alternatives...
a) Haul the Spyder/bikes in a conventional enclosed trailer. At your destination, unload, put up cots or inflate an air bed (or build a fold-down bed), and sleep in the trailer. Arntufun and I have taken this route.


b) Find a lightweight truck camper, and pull an open trailer behind for the Spyder.

Yes we have Scotty !!!! I saved over 10k by going this route. :thumbup:









BTW, Check out my new Graphics I just put on it. It gives my trailer a Fastfraser or Lamonster look doesn't it ???? :firstplace:

 

[rnet]

The best deal out there is the one that I'm selling. The bad thing is that it is located in Texas. Brand new, used only once.

http://www.rvt.com/rvdetail4898916.htm. I would let it go for $19,000 to a spyder lover.

Very similar to mine, but a different brand and this style can carry more than the bigger ones with a garage. I am able to carry my spyder and 2 large bikes. This is a good price also, being only used once. I paid $23,000 new for mine in 2008 and I am a good friend with the owner.

 

[Bob Denman]

Details man... Length, width, weight??? :shocked: Was this a bare Utility trailer that you did the conversion on, or was it a completed package? :dontknow:
"Fastfrasier or Lamont"?? not yet buddy... but it ain't too shabby either! :thumbup:

 

[arntufun]

Details man... Length, width, weight??? :shocked: Was this a bare Utility trailer that you did the conversion on, or was it a completed package? :dontknow:
"Fastfrasier or Lamont"?? not yet buddy... but it ain't too shabby either! :thumbup:

Bob, Bob, Bob................... I'm to cheap to pay for Labor, all hand made !!!!!

7x14 + 2' V-nose

 

[cjackg]

Forrest River Work & Play UL16

We have had this one for about a year now and really love it. It tows easy behind my Ford F150 (Ecoboost). An identical one was sold recently here on spyderlovers but most Forrest River RV dealers carry them. They are definitely 1/2 Ton towable.

 

[Bob Denman]

Bob, Bob, Bob................... I'm to cheap to pay for Labor, all hand made !!!!!

7x14 + 2' V-nose

Outstanding job!! :bowdown:
:firstplace: :clap:

 

[steve635]

I have a 23' Palomino Puma Unleashed toy hauler that I tow with my Ram 1500 (with 5.7 Hemi) with no problems. It's the biggest I would want to try with this truck however. You will absolutely need a sway bar and trailer brake controls installed in your cab (my tow package did not include this, but your's may...you'll need to check). My tow rating is a little over 10K, trailer loaded is around 8.7K.

 

[rcdurango]

We have had this one for about a year now and really love it. It tows easy behind my Ford F150 (Ecoboost). An identical one was sold recently here on spyderlovers but most Forrest River RV dealers carry them. They are definitely 1/2 Ton towable.

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I really like this one! Tried to get the one on here but was to late. pps: Maybe next time.

 

[Spyderal11]

how big

just curious how big the work and play is length and weight, I had one for sale something like back in April just prior to spyderfest.