Spyder=computerized marvel

[SailnDive]

It is amazing what we can do with 0s and 1s. We can send a spacecraft millions of miles into space and talk to and control it. Only with the aid of a computer. The Spyder is also one of these computerized marvels. It's truly amazing. But I'm beginning to think that I've made a mistake buying this machine. The machine is way too complex for my needs. I love the KISS way of thinking. I can design and build a car that goes from 0 to 60 in 3 seconds with a 1600cc engine and corners at more than a G without a computer and it's very simple and reliable. (I'm just finishing one now) The Spyder has a zillion computerized things to go bad...and they do go bad...just read this forum. I'm really impressed at the sophistication of the Spyder and it is fun to ride...but how many infuriating problems will I have over the life of this complex machine. There was a time that I felt like I could diagnose and fix anything that happened to my machines. NOT NOW. My John Deere Backhoe required a $2700 computer replacement with only 400 hours on the clock...and out of warranty. Why do I need a computer to tell my tractor when to go forward or back. Simple hydraulic valves can do the same thing and they cost $50 when they fail (which they hardly ever do). I will probably not own the Spyder for long. it's a hoot, I love the ride, but the first stupid computer failure will be the end for me I'm afraid.

 

[cuznjohn]

almost anything you buy today has some sort of computer chip to run it. my bmw K 1600 was also very computer run. you needed a degree in computer science to understand and operate it. in the old days, we could rip apart a bike or a car and fix it, today they need to be plugged in just to see hat is wrong. the spiders are fun to ride and also good looking bikes. but as always the decision is up to you

 

[Bob Denman]

Dave,
:agree: You should sell your Spyder, and pick up a Royal Enfield... :thumbup:

http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/

 

[Chupaca]

Your right....

You have had issues of control here several times. If you need to be in that degree of control this is not your kind of machine. If you use this site as the place where every single spyder built comes to complain about failure your also in the wrong place. Failures are few and I also loved the days when I could adjust, tune and control it all. Maybe because I did it and find that the technology can do it for me now, without my having to go out and readjust timming, jets, fuel/air mixtures or hunt down a problem taking all day, that I do enjoy these machines. You will find the greater majority are out there enjoying a problem free roadster and loving it. I am fairly new, over 28,000, miles trouble free but like being here to help whomerver I can. With all your knowledge and abilities you should be able to remove all the controls and rebuild to the old basic hydraulic brakes (maybe even front and rear) on off ignition, manual controls etc. You do seem to like your spyder...:thumbup:

 

[Pirate looks at --]

Hmmm

It is amazing what we can do with 0s and 1s. We can send a spacecraft millions of miles into space and talk to and control it. Only with the aid of a computer. The Spyder is also one of these computerized marvels. It's truly amazing. But I'm beginning to think that I've made a mistake buying this machine. The machine is way too complex for my needs. I love the KISS way of thinking. I can design and build a car that goes from 0 to 60 in 3 seconds with a 1600cc engine and corners at more than a G without a computer and it's very simple and reliable. (I'm just finishing one now) The Spyder has a zillion computerized things to go bad...and they do go bad...just read this forum. I'm really impressed at the sophistication of the Spyder and it is fun to ride...but how many infuriating problems will I have over the life of this complex machine. There was a time that I felt like I could diagnose and fix anything that happened to my machines. NOT NOW. My John Deere Backhoe required a $2700 computer replacement with only 400 hours on the clock...and out of warranty. Why do I need a computer to tell my tractor when to go forward or back. Simple hydraulic valves can do the same thing and they cost $50 when they fail (which they hardly ever do). I will probably not own the Spyder for long. it's a hoot, I love the ride, but the first stupid computer failure will be the end for me I'm afraid.

Interesting how you are predicting trouble where there is none. John Deere does not make the Spyder so because that tractor went bad, does not mean that you will have problems with your Spyder. We have almost 25,0000 miles on our Spyder, and while it had a recall, we had zero problems with it, but got the work done, I think it cost us ZERO dollars, and about a half of a day ryding, on a work day that we weren't going to Ryde anyway. I have to think that the computer between your ears is over analyzing things here. You said the Spyder is "fun to drive", then just drive it. To be honest I don't ever think about the computerization of this vehicle, I am too busy enjoying the scenery and the wind in my face to worry about the computer. I can say , that on the few occasions that I have thought about the computer, it is when I have allowed the computer between my ears get the better of me, and corrected an error that I made. Just drive it to the limit, and you won't even know there is a computer in there. Come to think about it, you are a "self professed" mechanical genius, why not tear down your Spyder and remove the computerization, and rebuild the RAW 1960's machine you are looking for.

What at ever you decide, have fun with it, life is short, breath in, breath out, move on!

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree:
You also bought the wrong Deere...

 

[SailnDive]

Dave,
:agree: You should sell your Spyder, and pick up a Royal Enfield... :thumbup:

http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/

THANKS! You are right. I am going to check this bike out. I already own a Honda Shadow 1100 and a Suzuki 650 Samaria but the Enfield has my interest.

 

[Bob Denman]

They actually DO look like a lot of fun! :thumbup:
I was missing my Honda Tourist Trophy, and I found them...

 

[Pirate looks at --]

Ahhhh Bob

:agree:
You also bought the wrong Deere...

If that's your house, go ahead and take the Christmas Wreath Down!

 

[Bob Denman]

I WISH that it was at my house... that's a 1950 MC. We had one of those, and it was tons of fun!
We built a lot of snowmobile/ATV/dirt-bike trails with it. :thumbup:

 

[SailnDive]

It's a common tactic on the internet for those that disagree with a post to reply by sarcastically attacking the character of the poster. I have never "self professed" mechanical genius. I did take every automotive course offered at the college where I got my degree, I did study race car design and I did design and build numerous tube frame cars. Definitely not genius level work but it was a lot to learn and very good experience. BTW, I was a much better builder than a driver. The last car I sold in Australia was put on the pole by the buyer in his first race with the car. I had never put it on the pole...but I built it well.

 

[Bob Denman]

It's a common tactic on the internet for those that disagree with a post to reply by sarcastically attacking the character of the poster. QUOTE]
:shocked::hun:
I don't think that anyone attacked your character; you've already decided that the computerized systems on the Spyder WILL be a source of problems for you. I offered you some simpler solutions; ones that I have either personally used, or have been keenly interested in. :thumbup:
and if this comment wasn't directed toward me:

 

[trikermutha]

You know unless you buy something from 1970's or before everything has computer this and that in it now..I don't think we will ever get out of owning something that is not computer ran these days.
Hell even my dryer has a computer in it now...:yikes::yikes:

The spyder is a really smooth running machine..Give a bit more of time and enjoy it..

 

[SailnDive]

Not directed at you in any way, Bob.

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

i say get rid of the spyder, get rid of the smart phone & i wouldn't trust a dvr or satellite tv.

 

[Bob Denman]

Not directed at you in any way, Bob.

Thanks; I was trying to offer up some options... :thumbup:

 

[ARtraveler]

I have been watching the posts with interest. Have not said much because I am not mechanical when it comes to computers and such.

I have only had one computer glitch on all my :ani29:'s (see signature if interested). That happened in the good ol days when we just purchased the 2009 SE5. The computer crashed at 1,500 miles. It was replaced within a day (dealer cannibalized another :ani29: instead of making me wait). Parts were not as easy to get in those days.

With over 125,000 miles on assorted machines--I am no longer worried about computers.

I am sorry that you are not quite as happy with your ride as some of us.

 

[Pampurrs]

I have been watching the posts with interest. Have not said much because I am not mechanical when it comes to computers and such.

I have only had one computer glitch on all my :ani29:'s (see signature if interested). That happened in the good ol days when we just purchased the 2009 SE5. The computer crashed at 1,500 miles. It was replaced within a day (dealer cannibalized another :ani29: instead of making me wait). Parts were not as easy to get in those days.

With over 125,000 miles on assorted machines--I am no longer worried about computers.

I am sorry that you are not quite as happy with your ride as some of us.

I just read your signature. Does this mean everytime you ride 6 miles you stop and make a post? :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

:shemademe_smilieam

 

[Bob Denman]

Pam
He's a Math Whiz... :bowdown:

 

[ARtraveler]

I just read your signature. Does this mean everytime you ride 6 miles you stop and make a post? :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

:shemademe_smilieam

That would take to much thinking on my part. It just works out that way for the moment. I try to get in between 50 to 100 miles almost every day. Retirement is good. Season is to short. Health always a question. Don't want to say "I could of had a V8." Life is to short.


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