Smoke signals

[rkba101]

Well a month ago or so I placed a forum asking about the spyder smoking.. Had awesome replies and took it to the local dealer. Since they were going to change the oil and remove the plastic I would have them check it out. Well they did change the oil so they stated and return the unit stating no reason for it to smoke.. Drove it home in the rain that evening and parked her in the garage no smoke. Well drove it a couple miles to a nearby wing joint and POOF ! Huge bellow of smoke.. WTH! So I let her sit and no over heating, nothing.. smoked stopped so I drove it home pulled into the garage and POOF white smoke fills the garage. WTH ! Talked to a couple peeps on fb page and they suggested I remove all the plastic and take a peek. Well heck I did, and Im a nurse.. I can save your ass but mechanic um not really. So I removed the plastic look in there and I was like ya an engine.. LOL didnt see discoloration, fluids, melting wires. Nothing strange looking as I would see. I drive it around the neighborhood naked.. The bike not me.. LOL and drive up the driveway POOF smoke coming from the belt side.. I peek into the small spot under the belt and found this..


Well showed this to the FB friends and one of them take that to the dealer. So I did.. They state "Well we can not diagnosis everything" Really miss a huge piece of plastic jammed between the belt and exhaust? Hummm..

 

[Bfromla]

:shocked::hun:Sounds like time for new dealer. :gaah: Least a report to bro cares:dontknow: glad you found cause of smoke but now need to double ,triple check the belt nojoke Things melted probably left residue that can causes problems later, glad your still mobile & smoke didn't ignite anything :yikes:

 

[Chupaca]

Wow...!!W

If the shop did the oil change they should have smelled the burnt plastic and a good tech will inspect the unit visually to see if all is well. I have to wonder about them or if it was just that tech. Did they do any other work at the time that could have caused this to happen like belt adjustment etc....:banghead:

 

[Easy Rider]

Well showed this to the FB friends and one of them take that to the dealer. So I did.. They state "Well we can not diagnosis everything" Really miss a huge piece of plastic jammed between the belt and exhaust? Hummm..

Sounds like something a Ride Now shop would do.
What dealership was it ??

 

[canamjhb]

Holey Smoke.....:yikes:

 

[rkba101]

Name of Dealer

Sounds like something a Ride Now shop would do.
What dealership was it ??

Hope they even changed the oil?? I check the reservoir while the panels was off and it was empty.. Is this normal ??

http://www.jacksonvillepowersports.com/

10290 ATLANTIC BOULEVARDJACKSONVILLE, FL 32225​

 

[ARtraveler]

Hope they even changed the oil?? I check the reservoir while the panels was off and it was empty.. Is this normal ??

http://www.jacksonvillepowersports.com/

10290 ATLANTIC BOULEVARDJACKSONVILLE, FL 32225​

There is a specific procedure for checking the oil. See your manual. One of the things is that the engine should be up to operating temperature.

 

[Easy Rider]

I check the reservoir while the panels was off and it was empty.. Is this normal ??

"Reservoir" ??? Oil ????

Knowing what model and year you have would be helpful.
You can put that information into your "signature" since there isn't another displayed field for it.

 

[Little Blue]

Spyder Improvements

Does anyone recognize the PART in the pictures? IS this at or near the drive belt? Is this a Factory spare Part? :chat:

 

[nhoj]

Does anyone recognize the PART in the pictures? IS this at or near the drive belt? Is this a Factory spare Part? :chat:

Its the oem belt guard. Looks like this when installed, but with 2 mounting bolts

 

[rkba101]

Appreciated it

"Reservoir" ??? Oil ????

Knowing what model and year you have would be helpful.
You can put that information into your "signature" since there isn't another displayed field for it.

Hopefully I did that correctly and thanks for the advice.. Phil..

 

[Bfromla]

Its the oem belt guard. Looks like this when installed, but with 2 mounting bolts

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:agree: Rear 1/2 belt guard, Pic of mine when it came off before first rear tire change
(Around 15k m):lecturef_smilie: think there was a bulletin about short stock bolts:dontknow: been a min can't say for sure, mine road up belt to drive sprocket for unknown miles, & I was fortunate enough that Jim at SmoothSpyder spotted it when he installed my dual mode back rest:bowdown::firstplace:

 

[youngers]

good job

hey 101 , good job on the problem and locating the problem , oil might be about 8 ozs short , at this posting , maybe more ... { you keep this up an you will be able to step up to doctor ... :thumbup: }

 

[bikerbillone]

Lurker here, My ride is a GW, Road Smith Conversion, and I can tell you, anyone that depends on a dealer without checking the work, beware. Oil changes, and some other things are difficult to check, but depending on most dealers is a no, no, Honda included. A really sad testimonial, when you pay $75/80 per hour for a fix or maintenance, but it is what it is.

 

[jaherbst]

Most shops just hire kids off the street to do your work under the supervision of a real tech. Sometimes the real tech is having coffee and donuts and too busy to supervise so the kid does the best he can which is not good enough. This is the practice used by the largest chain of Can Am dealerships in the US. Bet you can guess who they are. As of this date 46 dealerships. We know the owners.

Jack

 

[R FUN]

My dealer even had kids setting up the new spyders. Mine the kid checked the oil before it was ever started, no oil showing so added over a quart of oil. After I test drove it I asked the salesman to show me the way to check the oil. The oil was nearly running out the top of reservoir. There were more horrer stories from set up to first service they did
and have never took it back since, do all my own serviceing etc now.
Roger

 

[Raprider]

I have this...

Its the oem belt guard. Looks like this when installed, but with 2 mounting bolts

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I just took a look and I have this same part on my 2016 ST-S...with 2 mounting bolts :clap:

My question...is there a reason to replace this with some other belt guard at this point?
Or is something like the Sypderpops (or similar) belt guard an "in addition" item that is worth adding?