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RS-S SE question

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Camdenlake

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So we are leaning towards the 2nd spyder being a new rs-s. I am thinking SE is the way to go. What does the SE shift like? I know that hard but whats the ryding process with that unit? They dont have an se to currently test plus its a long drive to test :).

I am under the impression you shift up it will assist with the down shift if it feels the need? Besure to keep rpm above 3500. Am i close??

Josh
 
You wont miss the clutch lever or the foot shifting if you go with the SE. Of the four :spyder2:'s I have owned, three have been SE's. I see no difference in performance either. There are a couple threads with all the particulars about shifting. Give them a read, test drive a SE and see what you think.
 
You gotta help it...

It will do the downshifting if you are slowing down....If not, you gotta help it by downshifting with the paddle. You will LOVE the SE.:bowdown:smoky
 
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You should shift above 4,500...to keep the rpm above 3,500 to avoid clutch damage. Basically, you hold the throttle steady and hit the button to upshift. You can either hit the button to downshift or it will downshift on its own. The SE also requires you to use the parking brake when it is parked, and if you shut it off in gear you will need to press on the brake to start it. That's all the quirks I can think of.
 
I learned this the hard way. When a cement mixer crosses your path at 65mph your spyder will love you more if you rapidly down shift as your braking hard! My Spydee reflexes had not been developed at the time of this incident. I found myself reaching for the clutch, the front and rear brakes and my backside puckering the seat! I was able to come to a complete stop with no problems other than the bike was stuck in 3rd and did not want to shift down into neutral. I ended up just rolling the bike foreward a few feet and then back a few feet and it started to shift once again. What this actually accomplished, I don't know. I just know I didn't have to pay for a tow. (If someone could shed some light on it, that would be great.) I don't miss the clutch. By the way are you anywhere near the RavensView Water Treatment Facility in Kingston?

I'll never claim to be an expert; but I know enough to be DANGEROUS! :roflblack:
 
H.L.Spyder Guy said:
I learned this the hard way. When a cement mixer crosses your path at 65mph your spyder will love you more if you rapidly down shift as your braking hard! My Spydee reflexes had not been developed at the time of this incident. I found myself reaching for the clutch, the front and rear brakes and my backside puckering the seat! I was able to come to a complete stop with no problems other than the bike was stuck in 3rd and did not want to shift down into neutral. I ended up just rolling the bike foreward a few feet and then back a few feet and it started to shift once again. What this actually accomplished, I don't know. I just know I didn't have to pay for a tow. (If someone could shed some light on it, that would be great.) I don't miss the clutch. By the way are you anywhere near the RavensView Water Treatment Facility in Kingston?
I'll never claim to be an expert; but I know enough to be DANGEROUS! :roflblack:
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When I went for a demo ride, the previous tester left the SE5 in 1st gear and shut it off. The guys holding the demo had trouble starting it/getting it into Neutral. The third person called over said, if I recall, it was "Brake Lock". Had to rock it back and forth to get it to release, at that point it could be shifted into Neutral.
I made sure when my demo was over to put it into Neutral first before shutting it off. :thumbup: Something to keep in mind in the near future.
 
FutureRyder said:
When I went for a demo ride, the previous tester left the SE5 in 1st gear and shut it off. The guys holding the demo had trouble starting it/getting it into Neutral. The third person called over said, if I recall, it was "Brake Lock". Had to rock it back and forth to get it to release, at that point it could be shifted into Neutral.
I made sure when my demo was over to put it into Neutral first before shutting it off. :thumbup: Something to keep in mind in the near future.
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I always shut mine down in first, and just make sure my foot is on the brake when I start it up again and it shifts right into neutral for me.
 
H.L.Spyder Guy said:
I learned this the hard way. When a cement mixer crosses your path at 65mph your spyder will love you more if you rapidly down shift as your braking hard! My Spydee reflexes had not been developed at the time of this incident. I found myself reaching for the clutch, the front and rear brakes and my backside puckering the seat! I was able to come to a complete stop with no problems other than the bike was stuck in 3rd and did not want to shift down into neutral. I ended up just rolling the bike foreward a few feet and then back a few feet and it started to shift once again. What this actually accomplished, I don't know. I just know I didn't have to pay for a tow. (If someone could shed some light on it, that would be great.) I don't miss the clutch. By the way are you anywhere near the RavensView Water Treatment Facility in Kingston?

I'll never claim to be an expert; but I know enough to be DANGEROUS! :roflblack:
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Yep drive by 3 or 4 times a week on calls. Did a tour there a few weeks back. For what it does its a cool place. But i watch that kinda stuff on tv so..... :). And you ask why... How did you know about the poop plant? Working there?


Josh
 
It has been decided. Its RS-S SE5. Just now to determin colour and see what we can do on a deal. We are in no rush so if a prime lightly used 11+ poped up i would take it. The plan is in motion.


Josh
 
FutureRyder said:
When I went for a demo ride, the previous tester left the SE5 in 1st gear and shut it off. The guys holding the demo had trouble starting it/getting it into Neutral. The third person called over said, if I recall, it was "Brake Lock". Had to rock it back and forth to get it to release, at that point it could be shifted into Neutral.
I made sure when my demo was over to put it into Neutral first before shutting it off. :thumbup: Something to keep in mind in the near future.
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MRH said:
I always shut mine down in first, and just make sure my foot is on the brake when I start it up again and it shifts right into neutral for me.
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I always shut it down in first, and the next time I start it, she's in Neutral. I also HAVE to press the brake, or it won't start, regardless of whether or not it was in neutral on shutdown.
 
Camdenlake said:
So we are leaning towards the 2nd spyder being a new rs-s. I am thinking SE is the way to go. What does the SE shift like? I know that hard but whats the ryding process with that unit? They dont have an se to currently test plus its a long drive to test :).

I am under the impression you shift up it will assist with the down shift if it feels the need? Besure to keep rpm above 3500. Am i close??

Josh
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The transmission in the SE is identical to the SM they are both the same manual transmission. In the SE the clutch is a centrifugal clutch with a hydraulic override. The transmission shift lever in operated by a hydraulic powered piston. The engine power is controlled by computer. To shift hold the throttle steady and flip the paddle. The computer will control everything you would do on a SM, engine power, clutch, shift lever. It will shift faster than any human being can. For the most part you drive it the same way, up shift between 4,000 to 9,000 rpm (the same as a SM). Down shift at or below 3,500 rpm unless you are stopping or in first gear (the same as a SM). If you are coming to a stop you can let it down shift for you (NOT the same as a SM).
 
The only reason I asked was I started up and have done service work on the cake pumps that pump your pooh to the storage bunkers there. I have also spent alot of time at Longueil, Duffin Creek, Ash Bridges, Peel Lakeview, Peel Clarkson, Hamilton and London Greenway.
:thumbup:You could say your Pooh is my Bread and Butter!! :roflblack:

Colorwise the pure manesium and black mettallic is nice (My Spyder Color)...but then again so is the nitro green. I took the easy way out and just let my wife pick the color!!
 
H.L.Spyder Guy said:
The only reason I asked was I started up and have done service work on the cake pumps that pump your pooh to the storage bunkers there. I have also spent alot of time at Longueil, Duffin Creek, Ash Bridges, Peel Lakeview, Peel Clarkson, Hamilton and London Greenway.
:thumbup:You could say your Pooh is my Bread and Butter!! :roflblack:

Colorwise the pure manesium and black mettallic is nice (My Spyder Color)...but then again so is the nitro green. I took the easy way out and just let my wife pick the color!!
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Cool. If your in town sometime drop a line. Lots of traveling by the looks of it. I did fine a what looks to be a nice used black and mag one its a 2011 with 6k on it. May give them a call. Its for the wife so she is along for the process mostly :).

Josh
 
She's along to make sure that you get the color right... :shocked: :D
And now the shopping begins in earnest; have fun and Good Luck! :thumbup:
 
I see you are in Canada so this might not be useful. According to their website's current inventory, Leaders Marine in Michigan has 1 or 2 "brand new" 2011 RS-S SE5's. However, they list the colors of the 2012 models. It/they are marked down to $16,499 ($3100 off).

I've sent them emails to two different email addresses trying to get a color confirmation. One was returned as being "un-sendable" and I haven't seen a reply on the second email, so I have no idea what the actual colors are. Next step is to call.
 
All I can attest to is that rapid stopping is helped to manually throw back the switch, otherwise you will find yourself in 1st with the comp thinking you are in 2nd and it takes a few seconds to sort out.

Oh yea and if you let your oil change go to long, the Tranny filter gets a little clogged and you need to let the oil heat up before wandering out or the transmission will not shift correctly.

Yea Im that guy, I got 8k miles out of an oil change at full synthetic. Now if you look at the maintenance schedule that seems A-OK
 
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