Ok.. folks seem to want to know what is different between the 13 and other model spyders.... Previous models had an open area between the top cover and the side covers. these are enclosed on the 13's... I'm sure it was to reduce heat to the rider, but it is cooking everything under the Tupperware. On previous models you could see the exhaust pipe on the left side... now it is covered .. holding in more heat.... the right side is equally blocked. Keeping the rider cool at the expense of the bike is not a good deal... HEY... it's a motorcycle.... it gets hot.... the heat needs to get OUT!!!!! you are not supposed to ride in shorts and flip flops.... We want a bike that vents and cools itself ...
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One of the main differences between 2013 and other models
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Bob Denman
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this is a very useful observation; Thanks! :thumbup:
And I agree with you too! :clap:
And I agree with you too! :clap:
mcaccamise
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I would love to have a brand new ST Limited though i cant find one that runs and stays as kool as my 12 RSS so maybe ill just waite until the 14's are out and see if any of the heat issues have been taken care of first?
Mike
Mike
txroadrunner
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I used to ride back in the 70s and 80s, but hadn't ridden since. I took a safety course at the local college campus last May because I wanted to get back into riding. That meant getting a helmet, which I did, at a nearby dealership that also happened to sell Spyders. I'd never seen one up close, to be honest. The first thought I had was 'Where does all that heat go?'
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
I'm at the beach, I know motorcycle people don't agree....but I like shorts.hyea:
A good case of road rash, or even a good sunburn should cure you of that.
I hope you noticed I said 'flip flops' and not thongs.... today that means something completely different...nojokeA good case of road rash, or even a good sunburn should cure you of that.
SNOOPY
Active member
A good case of road rash, or even a good sunburn should cure you of that.
I don't get sunburn, and hopefully won't find out about road rash.
Not a daily driver, only running around the back roads for fun....probably never in heavy traffic...so hope to be safe at that.
If i had to ride and be hot and miserable I would sell the Spyder in a heartbeat.
That's why I don't understand the whiners on this forum with heat problems...sell it and buy a Toyota :roflblack:
Just a toy for me, when it is no longer fun it's gone!
In 30+ years of riding I don't think I've ever owned a motorcycle that there weren't hot areas on the machine that in the summer, you kept parts of your body away from. It's just part of riding. The problem for BRP is that many spyder owners have never owned anything else and don't understand that sitting right on top of a hot motor in the summer is.....well, HOT. Imagine sitting on the hood of your car to drive...:yikes:
So, BRP tries to do what they can to keep that heat off the rider with block off plates and plastic bits here and there, and in doing so they trap that heat under the plastic, which then causes all kinds of other problems....
IMHO, the more you can open up that plastic for airflow the healthier the machine will be overall...
So, BRP tries to do what they can to keep that heat off the rider with block off plates and plastic bits here and there, and in doing so they trap that heat under the plastic, which then causes all kinds of other problems....
IMHO, the more you can open up that plastic for airflow the healthier the machine will be overall...
SNOOPY
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I am one of those who have never own a motorcycle before this. And you are right.
I've owned 3 wheelers and 4 wheelers all my life and we just never rode them in the hot summer months because...well...they were too hot.
So this is no different for me. Although I haven't had a problem yet riding my '13 and having heat issues, I doubt I will ever ride it much when it is crazy hot outside.
I have several other toys I can drive. :thumbup:
some of us actually buy bikes to ride.... at least 30,000 miles per year.... apples and oranges.....
SpyderAnn01
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As my husband likes to say "you don't get to pick the day you wreck"
As for how much you gear up, it's totally a personal preference and I highly doubt anyone is going to convince otherwise.
Personally, I wear a LOT more gear when I'm on 2 wheels. On the spyder in the summer I'm totally a shorts, T-shirt, and sneaker kinda rider. However, I only roll with a full face helmet on everything I ride. Anyone who has been down on a motorcycle knows what part of your head is most likely to make contact with the pavement.
I've been down on a motorcycle 2 times. Once was losing a rear tire in a turn and once was flat out getting into a turn way to hot. Both times I did a LONG slide, tore up some gear and the bikes and walked away with only minor injuries (mainly to my ego).
For some reason I doubt a mishap on the spyder would be any type of a slide. A mishap on the spyder would likely be more of a collision or impact. Something a jacket and long pants probably won't do much for.....JMHO!
Personally, I wear a LOT more gear when I'm on 2 wheels. On the spyder in the summer I'm totally a shorts, T-shirt, and sneaker kinda rider. However, I only roll with a full face helmet on everything I ride. Anyone who has been down on a motorcycle knows what part of your head is most likely to make contact with the pavement.
I've been down on a motorcycle 2 times. Once was losing a rear tire in a turn and once was flat out getting into a turn way to hot. Both times I did a LONG slide, tore up some gear and the bikes and walked away with only minor injuries (mainly to my ego).
For some reason I doubt a mishap on the spyder would be any type of a slide. A mishap on the spyder would likely be more of a collision or impact. Something a jacket and long pants probably won't do much for.....JMHO!
I totally agree....there are days when it's just WAY to hot to ride and better to do other things.:thumbup:
SNOOPY
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billybovine
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If you think they are a problem, take them out. They are separate parts. In 10 minutes they can be gone and enough time left over to put a good dent in a bottle of silly pop. Thats not the problem IMO but if it make you feel better go for it.
SNOOPY
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Having never been in an accident while I was driving, it's still hard for me to understand how people can't avoid a wreck.
I try very hard to always know "everything" that is always going on around me at all time.
Ever seen those "Transporter" movies? That's me. I'm a driver. :roflblack:
Knarfoh
New member
Reading some of the posts in this FORUM, it appears the heat problem for the rider has increased over 2012 models. So they haven't addressed the heating problem from previous years in an effective way, but they added the possibility of frying the innards of your Spyder.
I stole the following from a NYTimes article: “Often corporations of all types perform passive customer analysis,” she writes. “They look at why and when customers or distributors call the company. Passive analysis is essential. However, only one in 20 customers who have a complaint will call and inform the company. Occasionally a customer will deliver a compliment. With passive analysis, companies miss out on important feedback. Even fewer customers will call and report a neighbor who is also interested in the product. The company and distributor have the opportunity to tap into untapped resources by contacting their customers.”
My point is: Find out what the customer wants and build them the Spyder they want. If they want to wear shorts, make sure the thing doesn't get hot enough to fry their eggs.
You should be able to ride your Spyder in a manner consistent with your lifestyle.
Be patient. If your 12 RSS is treating you right, don't buy a new Spyder until you see know the problems you are concerned about have been address. And don't take the word of some spyderlovers.com high mucky muck to make your decision. The 15 minute test ride they took as a favored guest of the manufacturer is just that... a 15 minute ride. Most of us know it takes days to learn the nuances of a particular motorcycle and simple ride, for a few minutes, doesn't tell you the story. There is a reason Consumer Reports and Car and Driver magazine drive their cars for weeks before writing a review. Yes, they sometimes write articles called "quick reviews" but they always include the caveats in the article.
So what is your answer to the problem? open to any ideas....but I do like the idea of silly pop!!!!! having some tonight!!!!
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