No seats from MUSTANG

[Chikez]

While at the Delmarva Bike week in September, I spoke with the Mustang Seat people. The rep said that they do not have seats for the spyder, but that I should write to the company. I did write to Mustang yesterday and received this reply today.

"Sir/Madam,

Mustang management has decided not to offer any seats or accessories for any of the canam products, sorry.
Thanks for your interest in Mustang."

Ike

According to the rep at Bike week, if enough of us write they might change their mind. From the sound of the email above, I don't think so.

Chikez

 

[fastfraser]

And a great big :lecturef_smilie:To Mustang seats !
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[Bob Denman]

...and that's kind of a shame since their other seats are pretty darn good... (I had one on a V-Star...)

 

[Magic Man]

Mustang sets up behind us at several rallies and a while ago I asked them about this too.

I was told that because there are so few Spyders made (15K to 20K) and they would now be such a "late entry" into the Spyder seat market with so many people who wanted seats already have bought one of the others already being made (Day long, Corbin, BRP comfort etc...) That the now slow to come additional sales (as the first pent up need has already been met for seats) These now slow to come "one here or there" type sales, devided up among the people already making them then add in Mustang, would not allow them to currently make seats, as it would not be profitable to do so.

Here in lies one of the biggest problems in getting any company to spend the time and costly R&D dollars to make items for any bike when there are only between 15K to 20K units worldwide on the street.

R&D dollars and production fixtures and costs remain almost constant whether or not you make 10 of an item or 10,000. Only problem is those cost then need to be divdied up among only 10 units rather than spread it out over 10,000 units which then makes those few units "stupid expensive" to make and sell at a profit.

This is a problem we too struggle with everyday when making new items for limited production bikes.

MM

 

[IWN2RYD]

Mustang sets up behind us at several rallies and a while ago I asked them about this too.

I was told that because there are so few Spyders made (15K to 20K) and they would now be such a "late entry" into the Spyder seat market with so many people who wanted seats already have bought one of the others already being made (Day long, Corbin, BRP comfort etc...) That the now slow to come additional sales (as the first pent up need has already been met for seats) These now slow to come "one here or there" type slaes, devided up among the people already making them then add in Mustang, would not allow them to currently make seats, as it would not be profitable to do so.

Here in lies one of the biggest problems in getting any company to spend the time and costly R&D dollars to make items for any bike when there are only between 15K to 20K units worldwide on the street.

R&D dollars and production fixtures and costs remain almost constant whether or not you make 10 of an item or 10,000. Only problem is those cost then need to be divdied up among only 10 units rather than spread it out over 10,000 unit which then makes those few units "stupid expensive" to make and sell at a profit.

This is a problem we too struggle with everyday when making new items for limited production bikes.

MM

:agree: Great info... And another reason why starting early and taking chance as the Spyders first started to sell could have paid off... SO is the life of a company... choices choices choices...:chat:

 

[SpyderWolf]

Mustang sets up behind us at several rallies and a while ago I asked them about this too.

I was told that because there are so few Spyders made (15K to 20K) and they would now be such a "late entry" into the Spyder seat market with so many people who wanted seats already have bought one of the others already being made (Day long, Corbin, BRP comfort etc...) That the now slow to come additional sales (as the first pent up need has already been met for seats) These now slow to come "one here or there" type slaes, devided up among the people already making them then add in Mustang, would not allow them to currently make seats, as it would not be profitable to do so.

Here in lies one of the biggest problems in getting any company to spend the time and costly R&D dollars to make items for any bike when there are only between 15K to 20K units worldwide on the street.

R&D dollars and production fixtures and costs remain almost constant whether or not you make 10 of an item or 10,000. Only problem is those cost then need to be divdied up among only 10 units rather than spread it out over 10,000 unit which then makes those few units "stupid expensive" to make and sell at a profit.

This is a problem we too struggle with everyday when making new items for limited production bikes.

MM

Completely understandable. I contacted Vance & Hines to see if they had any plans to make a performance exhaust system for the Spyder. I have always liked their exhaust systems, and was hoping to get a positive response from them. They have also decided it is not worth their time and effort to develop a system for our machines.

These companies are in business to make a profit, and that means they have to go where the money is. Perhaps things will change in the future when the Spyder enjoys more market share than it currently has.

 

[Firefly]

Mustang sets up behind us at several rallies and a while ago I asked them about this too.

I was told that because there are so few Spyders made (15K to 20K) and they would now be such a "late entry" into the Spyder seat market with so many people who wanted seats already have bought one of the others already being made (Day long, Corbin, BRP comfort etc...) That the now slow to come additional sales (as the first pent up need has already been met for seats) These now slow to come "one here or there" type slaes, devided up among the people already making them then add in Mustang, would not allow them to currently make seats, as it would not be profitable to do so.

Here in lies one of the biggest problems in getting any company to spend the time and costly R&D dollars to make items for any bike when there are only between 15K to 20K units worldwide on the street.

R&D dollars and production fixtures and costs remain almost constant whether or not you make 10 of an item or 10,000. Only problem is those cost then need to be divdied up among only 10 units rather than spread it out over 10,000 unit which then makes those few units "stupid expensive" to make and sell at a profit.

This is a problem we too struggle with everyday when making new items for limited production bikes.

MM

:agree:

Makes perfect sense for them to bow out of this relatively 'small' market.

 

[ARtraveler]

I also looked all over the internet to find a replacement seat for Spyder because I did not want to pay the Corbin price. Ended up with the Corbin anyway because there were no other alternatives except the ones mentioned on this site. I did find a really nice Saddleman for my Vulcan 900 though.

 

[Raptor]

Yup, totally understand the rationale there. No one is going to go into something to lose money. When it's put in that context it makes you understand a bit more why some of these items cost what they do. There is another thread out there that is critical of the cost of many of the accessories currently available for our rides.

And even though this thread really does put things in much better perspective, the wallet and the budget have the ultimate say (one might translate "wallet" and "budget" to mean Wife!) :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself!! I was just kidding... :shocked:

Anyway, before I dig myself in any deeper, I just can't do many of the things I would like to because the prices are just too high. So I have to be very selective about the things that I do get. But I do what I can, and I certainly appreciate the innovation that has gone into many of these mods. Right now for me everything is about stronger, faster. Performance! I haven't even thought much about the asthetic side. I imagine at some point I will. Among those things that will go on my list ultimatelty will be the seat. It will be interesting to see what I end up with. Right now the stock seat is doing pretty well...

 

[Lone Spyder Ryder]

Spyders made (15K to 20K)

Just wondering where the 15k to 20K come from. was that just 2008 and 2009 Spyders.
how would one find out how many have been sold to date?

 

[boborgera]

Just wondering where the 15k to 20K come from. was that just 2008 and 2009 Spyders.
how would one find out how many have been sold to date?

Every Spyder made [and sold in the US/CAN] since day one, till a few weeks ago is on the recall list'
BRP lists 16+ on that list. So the 20k could be close.:dontknow:

 

[boborgera]

Just wondering where the 15k to 20K come from. was that just 2008 and 2009 Spyders.
how would one find out how many have been sold to date?

Just to add If BRP is listed in the stock market ,Don't know if they are or not? they have to list sales figures.