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My experience with BRP about heat issue

tjmphd1

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I wanted to see how much my experience resonates with people here on the boards. Last Thursday evening, I drove 65 miles from my house in Northern Virginia to Gettysburg PA (where I vacation on weekends) so that I could get my Spyder to Hanover PA to the excellent dealership there. I got my ST in June but found that the clutch fluid was leaking--turned out to be a crimp in a gasket, which they promptly fixed last Friday. Well done Hanover Motosports!

Anyway, during that evening ride up to Gettysburg PA, which was the most extended riding I have done on my Spyder, I encountered the SAME darn issue that others have talked about and that I experienced even going 15 miles to work during the heat of summer (albeit a pretty mild summer at that in Northern Virginia). Was going 65 mph the whole way, and the temperature after dark was about 65 degrees, with that big bright moon in the sky--perfect riding weather! About halfway there, my right foot got so freaking hot that I had to hold it out multiple times to cool it off. My unintentional "seat warmer" also started kicking in, meaning that the temperature under the seat was rising precipitously. During a 95 degree day in July, using my thermal gauge I measured 150+ degrees at the gas cap and under the seat--too hot!

So on last Friday, I explained again to the owner of my dealership in Hanover PA my situation. She had been very sympathetic before but we kind of let the situation ride while I gathered my data. When she heard what happened with the heat and my foot on that nighttime ride the previous night, she gave me BRP's number and said she would fully support any case I lodged. So yesterday I called the BRP customer line. A very nice :thumbup: French Canadian woman listened to my story and commented when I was done, "I completely understand--what would you like us to do?" I mentioned our forum and the panel fix that others have had success with, and again she agreed that that would be a reasonable next step after a few checks on her end. She looked up my Spyder (by VIN), looked at the applied flash upgrades, and then gave me a six-digit case number. She then checked on the color of my Spyder (Pure Magnesium) and commented that the panels were indeed in stock. She then told me to have the Hanover PA dealership call their tech line and that the panels would be en route after they communicated with each other. End of call--lasted all of 7 minutes. Absolutely wonderful customer service :thumbup:, such to the point that I broke out my college French and thanked her with an emphatic "merci beaucoup," to which she responded in French in a very pleased tone. I always think it polite when you know a word or two in somebody's native language to try to use it--never has failed me in my world travels.

The moral of my story is this. Do your research and have facts. Have the support of your dealership if you are as lucky as I am to have purchased through a very reputable dealer (go Hanover Motosports!). Be patient and kind with the BRP customer rep and don't eviscerate them--hey, they didn't design the flaw, the engineers did! And break out a little "merci beaucoup" (thank you very much), "je vous souhaite une bonne nuit" (I hope you have a good night--if you are calling in the late afternoon as I did), and "au revoir" (goodbye) when you get the type of customer support I did.

I could not be more pleased with my dealer, with BRP, and especially with the customer service rep. I think I will stay with BRP and Spyders for many years to come! :clap:
 
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Glad you got some help, and that you had a good experience with BRP. They are ignoring owners of RT's, and we are literally burning up. I have two case numbers with them, and getting nowhere. There are other folks out there with the same dilemma. If you talk to the nice lady again, put in a good word for us.
 
I hope that my next step will be as productive as yours has been. I started the process 2 weeks ago and got my case number Monday. BRP asked me to give my dealer a couple of days to contact me and if they don't to contact them with my case number. I will call them today.
My first contact with my dealer resulted in them telling me they have never heard of any heat issues. :banghead: Wish me luck.
 
Congrats on your experience , I had a very similar experience with the same outcome and the new panels will help your heat issue a lot
 
Why such different experiences?

I am wondering why different people seem to be getting different messages from BRP? My customer rep said, very genuinely, that she understood completely why I would want it fixed and that BRP apologies for that. If other people are getting a runaround, is it due to conflicting policy with BRP, different support levels from dealers, or just luck of the draw in getting a customer service rep who wants to help at that moment in time?

As I say, the woman with whom I spoke was really very empathetic, helpful, and courteous. I am sorry for everybody who is not getting that required level of treatment!

That said, I am really looking forward to getting rid of the hot-foot treatment!
 
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That's how to, "git 'er done!"
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Good to hear..!!

congrats on a great job of handling the situation. Glad you have such a great dealer. That is the important part cause they can be the reason many are not getting the proper help....:2thumbs:
 
I am wondering why different people seem to be getting different messages from BRP? My customer rep said, very genuinely, that she understood completely why I would want it fixed and that BRP apologies for that. If other people are getting a runaround, is it due to conflicting policy with BRP, different support levels from dealers, or just luck of the draw in getting a customer service rep who wants to help at that moment in time?

As I say, the woman with whom I spoke was really very empathetic, helpful, and courteous. I am sorry for everybody who is not getting that required level of treatment!

That said, I am really looking forward to getting rid of the hot-foot treatment!

I think BRP Care is doing a good job with ST and some RS owners with the panel fix, just have to be patient and explain the situation, most of us are getting the fix, the variation is the Dealerships right now, mine for instance got my single case number and being a platinum dealership has replaced all his customer's panels without question, all you had to do was ask for them, others aren't as lucky and take a hard company line with their customers, these dealerships need to be reported to BRP!

As of now, I'm not aware of any fix for the RT's, the only thing I can suggest is the CAT bypass sold by Pitbull Powersports and BRP certainly won't cover that under warranty, that will be on your dime, but if you're happy with your current RT, it's a small price to pay for your comfort.
 
I wanted to see how much my experience resonates with people here on the boards. Last Thursday evening, I drove 65 miles from my house in Northern Virginia to Gettysburg PA (where I vacation on weekends) so that I could get my Spyder to Hanover PA to the excellent dealership there. I got my ST in June but found that the clutch fluid was leaking--turned out to be a crimp in a gasket, which they promptly fixed last Friday. Well done Hanover Motosports!

Anyway, during that evening ride up to Gettysburg PA, which was the most extended riding I have done on my Spyder, I encountered the SAME darn issue that others have talked about and that I experienced even going 15 miles to work during the heat of summer (albeit a pretty mild summer at that in Northern Virginia). Was going 65 mph the whole way, and the temperature after dark was about 65 degrees, with that big bright moon in the sky--perfect riding weather! About halfway there, my right foot got so freaking hot that I had to hold it out multiple times to cool it off. My unintentional "seat warmer" also started kicking in, meaning that the temperature under the seat was rising precipitously. During a 95 degree day in July, using my thermal gauge I measured 150+ degrees at the gas cap and under the seat--too hot!

So on last Friday, I explained again to the owner of my dealership in Hanover PA my situation. She had been very sympathetic before but we kind of let the situation ride while I gathered my data. When she heard what happened with the heat and my foot on that nighttime ride the previous night, she gave me BRP's number and said she would fully support any case I lodged. So yesterday I called the BRP customer line. A very nice :thumbup: French Canadian woman listened to my story and commented when I was done, "I completely understand--what would you like us to do?" I mentioned our forum and the panel fix that others have had success with, and again she agreed that that would be a reasonable next step after a few checks on her end. She looked up my Spyder (by VIN), looked at the applied flash upgrades, and then gave me a six-digit case number. She then checked on the color of my Spyder (Pure Magnesium) and commented that the panels were indeed in stock. She then told me to have the Hanover PA dealership call their tech line and that the panels would be en route after they communicated with each other. End of call--lasted all of 7 minutes. Absolutely wonderful customer service :thumbup:, such to the point that I broke out my college French and thanked her with an emphatic "merci beaucoup," to which she responded in French in a very pleased tone. I always think it polite when you know a word or two in somebody's native language to try to use it--never has failed me in my world travels.

The moral of my story is this. Do your research and have facts. Have the support of your dealership if you are as lucky as I am to have purchased through a very reputable dealer (go Hanover Motosports!). Be patient and kind with the BRP customer rep and don't eviscerate them--hey, they didn't design the flaw, the engineers did! And break out a little "merci beaucoup" (thank you very much), "je vous souhaite une bonne nuit" (I hope you have a good night--if you are calling in the late afternoon as I did), and "au revoir" (goodbye) when you get the type of customer support I did.

I could not be more pleased with my dealer, with BRP, and especially with the customer service rep. I think I will stay with BRP and Spyders for many years to come! :clap:

I'm glad they are stepping up to the plate, for you. I suspect the RT resolution will come about as a result of the ongoing NHTSA investigation. From a business perspective, it would be wise of them to wait and see what NHTSA tells them to do, rather that doing other things, and then having to do more. I do hope it is resolved, soon, however . . . summer rides can get uncomfortable, sometimes.

Motosports in Hanover is a great dealership . . . I was there, yesterday, for service . . . they are great folks.
 
heat issue

I e-mailed BRP on tues. night with heat issue , got a response on wends, case # sent to my dealer. (STEVE @ BRP CARE IS ON THE BALL ) i called my dealer (Rusty Palmer) They had no idea what parts to order . i am going for an oil change next week i think i'll contact brp care (STEVE) to see if HE can help Rusty out with part #'s.
 
I think I'm all set

My dealer also said he was unaware of any real heat issues with the '13 ST. I pursued the issue and it looks like BRP is stepping up again with new panels on order. I also found Steve very responsive and timely. I also believe my dealer has not seen a lot of heat issues, don't know how many of this model he has sold.

Good luck to all, looks like they (BRP) are finally doing the right thing.
 
As a brand new owner what is the heating issue? I have only ridden my 3 times and it was cool out. I thought the seat had a heater in it on the "passenger side" while riding.
 
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