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My dilemma with the new 2020 RT

Pete, I don't know how much importance you put on "performance". Just be prepared for that 2020 F3L to be a big step down in performance from your 16 F3L. The new models have the tine rear sprocket just like on the RT and that tends to really tame the beast in the F3. I found the newer F3Ls to be very disappointing with regards to the "fun" factor. Lots more Nanny input really dulls exhilaration. With your height and weight (I am only 5'8" 160) I think that may be an even bigger issue.

Thanks Pirate.....I didn’t know that.......luckily, sheer performance is no longer the prime consideration for me, although I do enjoy getting the F3 moving on the odd occasion. I imagine Jase from ECU Xtreme will soon have an ECM upgrade available for the 2020 models which will give me enough zip.

Pete
 
Pete,
Come to Texas! We will have a fantastic test ride, then you can decide! Joe

That is tempting, Joe.......the only concern is that I have to fly business on a trip that long, for the sake of my legs, I imagine that return trip from Oz would cost nearly as much as the Spyder :cheers:

Pete
 
Joe, you wanted to now if I pulled the trigger, and I did, today. Bought the 2020 Chalk RTL (Dark) at Power Sports in Eustis, FL. Fine folks there and I think they treated me right. Rode it 70 miles, best ride I ever had.
Bill
 
Hey good for you.:yes::yes::2excited: I knew you would love it. Ride Boley Ride. :congrats::2thumbs::nopic:Now we need a picture.
 
Thanks Pirate.....I didn’t know that.......luckily, sheer performance is no longer the prime consideration for me, although I do enjoy getting the F3 moving on the odd occasion. I imagine Jase from ECU Xtreme will soon have an ECM upgrade available for the 2020 models which will give me enough zip.

Pete

That should fix that for you!
 
I sat on a new RT last weekend. Overall, it looks weird somehow compared to my 2014 RT-S (but then, I thought all Spyders looked weird when they first came out). The longer floorboards just look a bit off, IMO.

Sitting on it was vastly different. I've read over the years of many Spyder riders grousing about how cramped the stock seating position was, necessitating a different saddle that positions them back a few inches and lets them stretch their legs. Well, BRP was listening, and the new Spyder indeed sits you back.

Except, shorter riders like me (5', 7", with a 30" inseam) now have the opposite problem. On my 2014, the brake pedal is right next to my foot. Just pivot up on the heel, move the foot leftward a bit, and the pedal's right there. On the 2020, the brake pedal is forward and up a bit from my toe; I have to lift my entire foot and move it up and forward. I noticed it helps if I pivot my right hip a bit. Not liking that; not sure how that'll affect reaction time. Shorter women riders may have the same problem.

And .... it just looks a bit odd to me. And all that flat black plastic is gonna be a pain to keep clean.
 
Baxter, I now have given some thought on cleaning the flat black (matte), my sales guy says use S100 and keep it hydrated so it doesn't turn from sun and elements. I'm not sure if that's good advice or not. So I'm looking for a good product to use. Yikes, the foot brake, I was thinking the wife was gonna get her trike endorsement so she could drive this thing later on, she's kind of short, so this may be a problem. I did not think of that when I bought. Maybe there will be aftermarket extension. :pray:
 
Yeah, the general consensus from those fairly tall/fairly short riders who have sat on/ridden the 20RT appears to be that it is not going to suit long legged or short legged riders in its current form, Bikerbill. It appears that they have designed it to suit “average leg Joe” (which is quite understandable), and give them the ability to move their feet around while riding, but without the adjustability of the U-Fit system it is not great for other leg lengths.

Pete

Baxter, I now have given some thought on cleaning the flat black (matte), my sales guy says use S100 and keep it hydrated so it doesn't turn from sun and elements. I'm not sure if that's good advice or not. So I'm looking for a good product to use. Yikes, the foot brake, I was thinking the wife was gonna get her trike endorsement so she could drive this thing later on, she's kind of short, so this may be a problem. I did not think of that when I bought. Maybe there will be aftermarket extension. :pray:
 
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