IdahoMtnSpyder
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I wonder if lower tension causes the belt to run hotter. Heat does deteriorate a belt.
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lost 19 teeth from my drive belt
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Buckeye Chuck 54
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Some Spyder ryders just like to ride on sunny Sunday afternoons.
Some Spyder ryders will take their bikes to the 7-11 for a half gallon of milk.
Some Spyder ryders just like to ride.
This Spyder ryder loves his Spyder. It's almost perfect for me. (it's kinda hard to see the instruments)
This Spyder ryder owns a 2014 RT-S SE6 that yesterday turned over 140,000 miles.
My avatar needs updated, it shows only 138,192 miles.
Buckeye Chuck 54
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Some Spyder ryders just like to ride on sunny Sunday afternoons.
Some Spyder ryders will take their bikes to the 7-11 for a half gallon of milk.
Some Spyder ryders just like to ride.
This Spyder ryder loves his Spyder. It's almost perfect for me. (it's kinda hard to see the instruments)
This Spyder ryder owns a 2014 RT-S SE6 that yesterday turned over 140,000 miles.
My avatar needs updated, it shows only 138,192 miles.
Buckeye Chuck 54
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RinconRyder
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Good point. The perfect tension would allow the belt teeth to mate perfectly with the teeth in both front and rear gears. Teeth that don't mesh perfectly will rub against the gear and generate heat which will wear the belt prematurely. There will always be some rubbing but the idea is to keep it to the minimum.
Easy Rider
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I had absolutely no intent for any of my comments to be taken as "unkind" but I do think that discussions like this need to address the truth......or honest and rational opinions.
All honest and rational opinions will not always agree with yours. That is not "unkind".
Usually differing opinions are offered with the hope that they will somehow be helpful.
It is really rare that a differing opinion is stated with the intent to insult or offend anybody.
My ONLY problem with what you have posted is my impression that you refuse to entertain the possibility that YOU had anything to do with this failure. If that is not the case, maybe you would want to clarify.....or not. I think I've said enough.
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IGETAROUND
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missing teeth
From Easy Rider: My ONLY problem with what you have posted is my impression that you refuse to entertain the possibility that YOU had anything to do with this failure. If that is not the case, maybe you would want to clarify.....or not.
Well perhaps my comments might be construed that way. I can hardly put the blame on anyone other than myself as there have only been a very limited number of other drivers on my bike than myself.
All I've tried to say is I haven't engaged in what I consider abusive riding, burn outs, high revs and drop the clutch, things like that.
I am guilty of doing down shifts coming in hot to corners that will bring the RPM's up in the 8 and 9000 range, occasionally sliding the rear end out in the process.
I like to push the curves, have had occasional severe treatment from the nanny with hard braking, enough to squawk the tires! I like to come out of the apexes @ full throttle and have been known to hit the rev limiter when passing slow traffic. My son tells me that I ride too fast; who knows, perhaps he's right.
I ride my bike the way it makes me feel good. Have also been know to drive for prolonged periods near or @ the speed limit, and am rarely more than 8MPH above the posted speed.
Just seems to me that 49k is a very premature failure of the drive belt. Will see what Bates and BRP have to say about it and let you all know.
Al in Kazoo
From Easy Rider: My ONLY problem with what you have posted is my impression that you refuse to entertain the possibility that YOU had anything to do with this failure. If that is not the case, maybe you would want to clarify.....or not.
Well perhaps my comments might be construed that way. I can hardly put the blame on anyone other than myself as there have only been a very limited number of other drivers on my bike than myself.
All I've tried to say is I haven't engaged in what I consider abusive riding, burn outs, high revs and drop the clutch, things like that.
I am guilty of doing down shifts coming in hot to corners that will bring the RPM's up in the 8 and 9000 range, occasionally sliding the rear end out in the process.
I like to push the curves, have had occasional severe treatment from the nanny with hard braking, enough to squawk the tires! I like to come out of the apexes @ full throttle and have been known to hit the rev limiter when passing slow traffic. My son tells me that I ride too fast; who knows, perhaps he's right.
I ride my bike the way it makes me feel good. Have also been know to drive for prolonged periods near or @ the speed limit, and am rarely more than 8MPH above the posted speed.
Just seems to me that 49k is a very premature failure of the drive belt. Will see what Bates and BRP have to say about it and let you all know.
Al in Kazoo
IGETAROUND
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missing teeth
Wow; I'm impressed!!!! Is that all with the original belt??? Let me guess, you are retired and have the luxury of being able to ride. Someday I too will join those ranks; for now still working FT, I've managed to accumulate 49K in this my third riding season. But that is truly impressive mileage in a short time span. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::clap::clap::clap::clap:
Wow; I'm impressed!!!! Is that all with the original belt??? Let me guess, you are retired and have the luxury of being able to ride. Someday I too will join those ranks; for now still working FT, I've managed to accumulate 49K in this my third riding season. But that is truly impressive mileage in a short time span. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::clap::clap::clap::clap:
Easy Rider
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And it just "seems to me" that everything you just said indicates that you are stressing the drive belt more than most riders........and that it should occur to you that it might wear out sooner than what you might expect.
AND that it might need a closer inspection that what you have been giving it.
ASSuming things that you have no really good basis for can often get you into trouble.
You were just a hair away in this case.
Oh.....and it seems to me that 49 thousand miles is a reasonable life span for a belt doing the duty that it IS.
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BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
BELT DAMAGE
:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: .... Mike :thumbup:
Buckeye Chuck 54
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Thanks IGETAROUND
No, the original belt lasted 108,352 miles. When I bought my Spyder new I asked the salesperson how long the belt would last. He said some people have over 60,000 miles with no problems. I was skeptical. I'd never owned any kind of cycle that was driven by belt. I just didn't think any belt could handle the stress. Wrong! Many times after a 200 mile ride in hot conditions I'll reach down and feel the rear sprocket. It's never felt hot, just warm. I've never adjusted the belt, some things I don't know about are best left to the dealer.
And yes, I am retired. After 37 years I was forced to retire from health issues. Been retired 10 years next March.
I bought a new Moto Guzzi early 2002. I rode that bike 37,800 miles the first year, never thought about breaking that record. And when I rode this RT off the lot with 1 mile on it, I was taking a big risk, had no idea if I'd like it. Well, I do. Been very lucky to this point, it's been a very good machine. Very little problems. Never been stranded, even when the original belt went belly up I was able to coax it home, but it was a white knuckle ride. I feel for the ryders who have had many problems. I change my own oil and do minor maintenance. But every spring I let the dealer do the more involved issues. 2 years ago it was flushing the brake system. Last year it flushing the coolant. Every year they change the spark plugs, my hands are too big to reach in small places.
I've gone on long enough.
Now if you'll excuse me, I think it's time for my daily 250 miler.
Chuck
No, the original belt lasted 108,352 miles. When I bought my Spyder new I asked the salesperson how long the belt would last. He said some people have over 60,000 miles with no problems. I was skeptical. I'd never owned any kind of cycle that was driven by belt. I just didn't think any belt could handle the stress. Wrong! Many times after a 200 mile ride in hot conditions I'll reach down and feel the rear sprocket. It's never felt hot, just warm. I've never adjusted the belt, some things I don't know about are best left to the dealer.
And yes, I am retired. After 37 years I was forced to retire from health issues. Been retired 10 years next March.
I bought a new Moto Guzzi early 2002. I rode that bike 37,800 miles the first year, never thought about breaking that record. And when I rode this RT off the lot with 1 mile on it, I was taking a big risk, had no idea if I'd like it. Well, I do. Been very lucky to this point, it's been a very good machine. Very little problems. Never been stranded, even when the original belt went belly up I was able to coax it home, but it was a white knuckle ride. I feel for the ryders who have had many problems. I change my own oil and do minor maintenance. But every spring I let the dealer do the more involved issues. 2 years ago it was flushing the brake system. Last year it flushing the coolant. Every year they change the spark plugs, my hands are too big to reach in small places.
I've gone on long enough.
Now if you'll excuse me, I think it's time for my daily 250 miler.
Chuck
billybovine
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billybovine
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That should be enough tension. It is recommended by BRP to jack up by the frame and check with the swing arm hanging. Not with the tire on the ground. There will be a difference in the cricket reading but it will be small. Not big enough to be important.
IGETAROUND
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Missing teeth
Yes I know that is the way it is supposed to be done. However it just seems logical that if the tension increases with the wheel on the ground then you should adjust the tension to how the belt spends the majority of it's life. I could well be wrong, however that's how I came to that conclusion.
Al in Kalamazoo
Yes I know that is the way it is supposed to be done. However it just seems logical that if the tension increases with the wheel on the ground then you should adjust the tension to how the belt spends the majority of it's life. I could well be wrong, however that's how I came to that conclusion.
Al in Kalamazoo
IdahoMtnSpyder
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A perfectly good argument. However, with the latest guideline from BRP the tension is such a wide range it probably makes no real difference one way or the other. I don't remember what the numbers are but basically they say to set it anywhere in the range that puts belt vibration in the speed range the owner can live with.
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
BELT TENSION
:agree: ... I have my belt tension ( for a 14 RT ) set well below BRP's spec's ..... some here have said that might be cause of Al's disaster .... But I remember back when BRP set the tension too High and engine shaft bearings were Failing at an alarming rate ...... So I'm keeping my belt tension ...... besides my belt doesn't have any Bad vibes and I don't have any special VIBE REDUCTION devices ............ jmho .... Mike :thumbup:
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SPYDERGUY1
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I am guilty
I am guilty of all of that and then some, hence forth the second rear tire. I needed to see what the Spyder is capable of and found out. That being said still on the original belt and NO ISSUES.
I am guilty of all of that and then some, hence forth the second rear tire. I needed to see what the Spyder is capable of and found out. That being said still on the original belt and NO ISSUES.
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