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Hey BRP, can you make this fit?

They were going to sell Saturn to Penske - but that fell apart--

The reason this deal fell appart is that GM demanded that they be able to set mimum price on the vehicles sold. Why would you buy a company and relinquish pricing authority to a competitor?

What happened to "Choice and Competition"? :dontknow: I guess that is only good when provided by the government.
 
The reason this deal fell appart is that GM demanded that they be able to set mimum price on the vehicles sold. Why would you buy a company and relinquish pricing authority to a competitor?

What happened to "Choice and Competition"? :dontknow: I guess that is only good when provided by the government.

The story I heard up here in GM country is that Penske was unable to find a supplier for Saturn vehicles after the agreement with GM to supply Saturns was completed. :dontknow:


CNN Money said:
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Car dealership operator Penske Automotive Group announced on Wednesday that it has cancelled plans to acquire General Motors' Saturn unit. As a result, GM said it will wind down the brand and dealer network, potentially putting 13,000 Saturn dealership jobs at risk.

The announcement comes nearly four months after Penske agreed to buy the rights to the 19-year old brand from GM when the automaker was in bankruptcy.

As part of the deal, GM would have continued making Saturn's three best-selling models -- the Aura sedan, as well as the Vue and Outlook cross-over SUVs -- for the rest of this year and next. Penske, which would have been the distributor but not the manufacturer of the vehicles, would have sold the cars on behalf of GM. Penske said it would find another third-party manufacturer to make new Saturns in 2011.

But negotiations with another, unnamed manufacturer fell through after an agreement was rejected by that manufacturer's board, according to Penske. According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, the manufacturer in question is Renault.

"Without that agreement, the company has determined that the risks and uncertainties related to the availability of future products prohibit the company from moving forward with this transaction," the company said in a statement.
 
The story I heard up here in GM country is that Penske was unable to find a supplier for Saturn vehicles after the agreement with GM to supply Saturns was completed. :dontknow:

Hmmm.....I'll have to find the article I read with the information I posted. Until then I stand corrected.

I don't mind being wrong....as long as I don't know about it! :roflblack:
 
It's the new powerplant from the VFR1200. V4 and knowing Honda, exceptionally refined, powerfull and reliable. Could make a great successor to the Rotax.
As someone who likes to take multi-day roadtrips on my spyder, i'd love to see a larger engine offered with a towing capacity of around 600#. I'm tired of paying for motels and would love to have an option beyond the MiniMate for a camper.
 
As someone who likes to take multi-day roadtrips on my spyder, i'd love to see a larger engine offered with a towing capacity of around 600#. I'm tired of paying for motels and would love to have an option beyond the MiniMate for a camper.
You realize you just woke up a thread that started & last did anything in 2009?
 
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