gas in the emissions canister

[willey]

I am new to the spyder world.I have been reading about gas getting in the emission canister by over filling the fuel tank.How do you know if you have filled it to full and what are the results of getting fuel in the cainnester?Does the canister have to be removed and cleaned?Help this nubie out,I don't want to screw any thing up.

 

[Cruzr Joe]

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn::bbq:

Watching to see the answer on this.


Cruzr Joe

 

[NancysToy]

There is no easy way to tell, short of an increased and lingering gas smell when the Spyder is parked. If you fill slowly and shut off when the fuel first starts to spurt out the vent slots, you stand a good chance of never overfilling. The canister is there to absorb gas vapors, and the carbon becomes saturated if the gas overflows, ruining the canister. There is no simple way to empty, recycle or repair it...it would need to be replaced to retain the emissions scrubbing qualities. Most people don't worry about it if they don't have overwhelming gas fumes. I would recommend you just fill carefully, stop worrying, and ride.

 

[willey]

thanks

thanks scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SpyderAnn01]

However, if you have a 2013 RT or ST you may want to be extra sure that you aren't filling the canister with fuel.

 

[flamingobabe]

I have always been very careful not to over fill...did that the 1st week I purchased my 2009 RS...gas went everywhere...was afraid to ride it...but all was OK...so with the 2013...never over fill...but smell gas when I shut off...since day 1

 

[BajaRon]

I have always been very careful not to over fill...did that the 1st week I purchased my 2009 RS...gas went everywhere...was afraid to ride it...but all was OK...so with the 2013...never over fill...but smell gas when I shut off...since day 1

Once you get raw fuel in the canister you'll always get the gas smell. Not saying that is the source of your smell. Just saying if it is, you'll have to change or get rid of the canister to remedy it.

 

[NancysToy]

Once you get raw fuel in the canister you'll always get the gas smell. Not saying that is the source of your smell. Just saying if it is, you'll have to change or get rid of the canister to remedy it.

:agree: It can eventually evaporate, but it takes months. The vented vapors also smell more after it happens, because the activated charcoal is used up and no longer absorbs any vapors. A faulty purge valve can make the odors stronger and more frequent.

 

[Bob Denman]

However, if you have a 2013 RT or ST you may want to be extra sure that you aren't filling the canister with fuel.

:agree:

:yikes:

 

[flamingobabe]

My roll over valve was replaced at 5000miles....but did nothing in changes to the issues of heat or gas smell...hopefully today...the Spyder will be looked at and decisions can be made to fix this thing

 

[gypsy_100]

There is no easy way to tell, short of an increased and lingering gas smell when the Spyder is parked. If you fill slowly and shut off when the fuel first starts to spurt out the vent slots, you stand a good chance of never overfilling. The canister is there to absorb gas vapors, and the carbon becomes saturated if the gas overflows, ruining the canister. There is no simple way to empty, recycle or repair it...it would need to be replaced to retain the emissions scrubbing qualities. Most people don't worry about it if they don't have overwhelming gas fumes. I would recommend you just fill carefully, stop worrying, and ride.

Coincidence this thread started just now. I've been getting more frustrated with the fumes from my '11 RT (26K miles). By your definition, it has never been overfilled. Very careful. But it seems like the fumes are getting worse, i.e. a few drops out the overflow hose at the end of a ride and visible condensation and fumes on the bottom edge of the hose. If that's the best it will be and is "normal", I guess I'll let it pass. I think (!) it used to do that only on very hot days in the summer but now it seems to be more frequent even in somewhat milder temps. But I can't swear to that difference. I wouldn't want to spend the $ and aggravation installing a new canister only to have it behave the same. Is my experience the norm?

 

[Dan McNally]

One would logically think that a charcoal canister that filtered gas fumes would be located above the gas tank, making it virtually impossible to get liquid gas inside it . . . Sometimes I truly wonder what the design engineers are thinking . . . or if they are thinking . . . :hun:

 

[Bob Denman]

Where would you mount it :shocked:? In a cupholder, on the handlebars? :dontknow:

 

[Dan McNally]

That would be a design engineer's issue . . . and they are the ones who come up with all the shapes of everything. A flatter, wider canister could sit in a depression atop a very slightly wider tank. They need to design as a whole, not piecemeal, sticking other parts in as an afterthought.

 

[Some Guy]

I removed the canister on my 08 GS about 4 years ago. No problems at all.

I removed the canister, plugged the purge valve (don't remove it completely...check engine light), extended the vent hose and ran it to the back of the Spyder on the opposite side of the exhaust. On really hot days I'll see a few drops of gas on the pavement occasionally, but I can handle that. It evaporates immediately.

So far I've had no problems with my 12 RT-S LTD, but I'm still going to remove the canister.

 

[Pirate looks at --]

The only gas smell I get is for a very few moments after the machine is shut off. I can return in a few minutes and the smell is gone, does that sound like the system is working normally?

 

[GuitarPlayer]

In the over 8000 miles I've ridden my 2013 RT-Ltd, I've never had a gas smell. I do however fill it up according to Scotty's instructions. I put the tip of the pump into the gas tank about an inch and fill the tank slowly. When the gas pump automatically shuts off, I put gas in again until I see it spurting out the vent holes of the tank. I then stop putting gas in. The gas gauge has always read full after using this method.

There are times when it's hot and the engine is hot when the gas pump shuts off quickly. Not sure why this happens. I just wait 30 seconds and then I can fill the tank normally. It's not a big deal.

Tony

 

[CurtG]

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There are times when it's hot and the engine is hot when the gas pump shuts off quickly. Not sure why this happens. I just wait 30 seconds and then I can fill the tank normally. It's not a big deal.

Tony

Tony, I've noticed the same thing in the hot weather and find if I wait a minute or so after opening the tank it doesn't happen as frequently. I suspect the warm vapor in the tank affects the pressure sensor in the pump. I too follow the filling procedure recommended by Scotty and others fill to cut off with about an inch of the nozzle in the tank then usually just a short squeeze and I see a few drops kick out the vents. Done. So far no gas odors from my 2012 RT-S .

Ride and ride safe,

 

[flamingobabe]

When riding and need gas there us a ritual that I go through.....release cap slightly....wait....remove cap...wait...get everything ready and put nozzle barely in tank....give a little gas...wait more gas...wait....on and on....good thing is the gas is not spiting back at me if I'm patient .....but should we have to do this?

 

[Bob Denman]

Gas smells? :shocked:

I don't know what you're taling about! :shocked: