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Gas entry through the seat

That looks like an Ultimate Seat. They are a sponsor here. I have one and its a great seat.


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Pitbull Powersports were selling add-on fuel doors during Spyderfest this year..Pit Bull Powersports Springfield, MO (417) 863-1418.....they are a sponsor and I think they are closed on Mondays..
 
Gotta say..!!

if your getting a seat with the door built in great. The add on to your existing seat ones are a little involved. I find getting everyone off and moving about while I refuel refreshing if I had one my wife would not even get off...:roflblack:
 
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Gas stations are where I walk around to stretch my legs (and visit the men's room!) I thought that was why BRP built the Spyder the way they did . . . to force me off the thing from time to time! ;)
 
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HOW ABOUT THIS METHOD

I just installed a gas door it is a very iffy deal. The problem is, the stock seat pan is not flat in back, it is very hard to cut. Tips:
1. Use a hole saw but rotate it by hand else it will fly away make sure to cut from the backside
2. You have to unstaple the seat vinyl and be very careful not to catch it with the saw
3. You will be cutting thru 4 layers of foam and vinyl, need a very sharp knife and a burr to round out the circle
4. Attaching the fuel door to the seat pan exposes the risk of the bolts scratching the tupperware
5. Make sure the fuel door has no ridges inside or it will not lay flush
6. The stock seat is not flat sided so the fuel door will force it to stretch

worst part

7. You cant put the door right over the gas filler due to the stitching and the curve of the seat pan. The gas nozzle will be at a 45 degree angle. Therefore make sure the hinge is on the right.
8. You cannot drill thru the vinyl seat cover. I had to cut cross hatches and push the bolts thru. Try to drill, even in reverse, it catches and will rip.

my advice, dont do it

I have not attempted this but I have given it some thought, and might it be possible to mount the GAS DOOR first and then cut the hole ......By doing it this way the vinyl and padding of the seat etc. will be firmly secured to the seat pan when you use whatever tools you need to make the HOLE......Just a thought...Mike :thumbup:./......I have since done a gas door and fool-proof way is to not cut it !!!!!..........Burn it....the holes for the screws , use a hot nail .....The gas door I did was a lot smaller but you could still get a piece of larger pipe and have some one heat it up with a torch and burn the hole that way.....just sayin......Mike
 
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I'm glad BRP did not installed one or else I'm not getting out of my seat for nothing.:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
 
You have your answer, but we'll share our experience for folks to keep in mind



With Teddy's carrier & sun canopy mounted to the rear passenger area, it was a bear to fuel up as each time we'd either have to remove everything to raise the seat to fuel up or I'd have to leave it all there and just pry the front part of the seat up enough to slide the fuel nozzle in, but that would bend the front part of the seat & potentially warp it over time.

We had this mod done and sadly, I have to admit, I do regret having it done. The door used for our mod is too large for the area and doesn't look right. And as mentioned by another poster, and us not being aware of this before hand, you have to be extra careful if you do raise and lower your seat, otherwise you WILL scratch your tupperware residing under the fuel door, as we did ours. Also, in hot sunny weather, think about that nice shiny silver plate being right up against the inside of your left leg/knee :mad:

Personally, If I had it to do over again, I would have had a black plastic door installed, much like Inspector Gadget can do for you. I'm not downing anyone, just sharing our experience & giving others the benifit of our experience. One of Teddy's favorite quotes is, 'There's Always More Than One Way To Skin A Cat'
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Hi thanks for your PM

Your idea of mounting the door first then cutting the hole - I actually did a hybrid of that, I mounted the door with only one bolt and then tried to position it exactly and cut the hole, then install the other bolts..

The problem is, to mount the door, you have to cut at least one hole all the way through 3 layers of troublesome stretch vinyl plastic. You cant drill it, you cant cut it with a sharp knife unless you have LOTS of clearance. With the door already in place, its vey hard to get any tools in there - certainly not a burr on a Dremel.

Also, the holes have to be a size larger than the chrome ring holes or you will never get the bolts through. Did I mention you have to get the bolts at Ace hardware ? Another adventure.

The real show stopper though is the inability to position it right over the gas cap. CyncySpyders photo seems to show this problem. His looks exactly like mine.

I gave up and ordered an Ultimate seat.
I have found that a really really hot large nail will usually take care of the " hole in the vinyl problem ", then drill it out ......and as far as getting the bolts thru.......well even if they are the same size or a hair smaller just screw them in......a steel bolt will make it's own threads in plastic .....just sayin...Mike
 
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That's why the first thing I up grade on my 2014 will be the seat. With my wife's bad knees it's better for her to sit tight while I refuel instead of her getting on and off.


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Not sure if you seen the other post today but I used this door: All Sales 6044GKL Billet Fuel Door Sold by Amazon.com LLC. I sanded then glued matching seat fabric onto it so it blends in and looks stock. It is the small door I could find so it fits the area much better as well. I left the perimeter screws in place and glued over them but not sure about it as they do show throw faintly. I may pull that area off and recover and fill the holes first. The vinyl helps keep the door insulated when it gets hot out so you don't burn the inside of your thigh after leaving it parked in the sun.
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Not sure if you seen the other post today but I used this door: All Sales 6044GKL Billet Fuel Door Sold by Amazon.com LLC. I sanded then glued matching seat fabric onto it so it blends in and looks stock. It is the small door I could find so it fits the area much better as well. I left the perimeter screws in place and glued over them but not sure about it as they do show throw faintly. I may pull that area off and recover and fill the holes first. The vinyl helps keep the door insulated when it gets hot out so you don't burn the inside of your thigh after leaving it parked in the sun.
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......This door is 5 1/2 inches in diameter......Mike :thumbup:
 
I am noting the post originated almost a year ago. Right on, the OP shows a picture of the gas entry door on an Ultimate seat.

I have had Corbin seats on two of my :spyder2:'s and like the convenience of not having to lift the seat to refill the gas tank. Also have had standard type seats on the other two :ani29:'s. Do I need it or not? I have found it does not matter to much.

I like the gas station stop to get off the :spyder2:, stretch, get a snack, etc. So, never a problem for me. I don't travel with so much extra baggage that I have to put stuff on the seat also. So, lifting the seat has never been an issue for me.

The gas doors do look nice, and make the :ani29: different, so if you want one, go for it. :thumbup:
 
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