Food For Thought - F3S & Ryker Rally in the shop; saw new RT S2S Ltd & an F3T....

[Dutchy]

Food For Thought - F3S & Ryker Rally in the shop; saw new RT S2S Ltd & an F3T....

I had some work done on F3s and the wife's Ryker 900 Rally.

In the background I spied a 2023 Sea to Sky RT Limited and a F3T,

So being curious, I looked at the F3T first and was thinking most of my adds on the F3s would slide across to the F3T; like the dashcam, floorboards, ISCI Handbrake, and pedal box just to mention a few items. However, looking at the storage, I was disappointed with the room in the panniers. Where you have two Shad panniers on the F3S & I can place a helmet in each, this does not include the frunk (full of man crap) :doorag: :doorag: then for less cost, get a rack and top box from Lamonster and have that on the F3s and have a poor man's F3T - still maintaining the aggressiveness F3S. Yes, there's no four speakers, no air bag suspension, & not a comfortable seat for long distances...

Now the 2023 Sea to Sky RT Limited, that is a whole different ball game storage wise :firstplace: let alone for creature comforts, and the only thing I would have to add to it would be a handbrake and I would be gone! As I have not ridden one, I cannot comment on its performance or how it handles; but sitting on one in the shop and looking all over it, yes, it might be the bike for me; or I could wait 'til 2024 and look at the newer offerings.

Yes, I love the F3S, but the reasoning being that at 66 years young and having a broken body from being in the military for so long, and as much as the boy in me would like to ride like a lunatic, maybe the F3S or T might be the wrong choice - as the saying goes, you can knock the man out of the boy, but not the boy out of the man.

Food for Thought

Lattrappe

 

[CopperSpyder]

There are some changes coming for 2024 model that are very nice. So you should take that into consideration.

 

[JohnRuckus]

There are some changes coming for 2024 model that are very nice. So you should take that into consideration.

Agreed.

 

[troop]

I can relate. Same 66 years young and owner of a F3S that I set up for touring with shad bags/lamonster Pack rack-80L top case. Very easy to revert back to sport mode. It also had a crap load of add ons that I could transfer to a F3L. Owned it new since 2019. I figured maybe it was time to treat myself to ultimate luxury. So, I started looking at RTL's. I did like the petrol blue dark edition, but it wasn't calling my name. The 2023 S2S green wasn't a top 5 favorite. Then I saw it .. A new (but sold) 2022 S2S in mystery blue. I instantly fell in love. I began my quest to find one and wheel/deal and I was successful. Purchased it at the end of August this year at $6K off. I was able to transfer over a good amount of stuff, and I have no regrets. Being a 100% solo rider, storage is not an issue. I really appreciate the more relaxed engine cruising due to the 79t rear pulley. Very content

 

[ARtraveler]

I had some work done on F3s and the wife's Ryker 900 Rally.

In the background I spied a 2023 Sea to Sky RT Limited and a F3T,

So being curious, I looked at the F3T first and was thinking most of my adds on the F3s would slide across to the F3T; like the dashcam, floorboards, ISCI Handbrake, and pedal box just to mention a few items. However, looking at the storage, I was disappointed with the room in the panniers. Where you have two Shad panniers on the F3S & I can place a helmet in each, this does not include the frunk (full of man crap) :doorag: :doorag: then for less cost, get a rack and top box from Lamonster and have that on the F3s and have a poor man's F3T - still maintaining the aggressiveness F3S. Yes, there's no four speakers, no air bag suspension, & not a comfortable seat for long distances...

Now the 2023 Sea to Sky RT Limited, that is a whole different ball game storage wise :firstplace: let alone for creature comforts, and the only thing I would have to add to it would be a handbrake and I would be gone! As I have not ridden one, I cannot comment on its performance or how it handles; but sitting on one in the shop and looking all over it, yes, it might be the bike for me; or I could wait 'til 2024 and look at the newer offerings.

Yes, I love the F3S, but the reasoning being that at 66 years young and having a broken body from being in the military for so long, and as much as the boy in me would like to ride like a lunatic, maybe the F3S or T might be the wrong choice - as the saying goes, you can knock the man out of the boy, but not the boy out of the man.

Food for Thought

Lattrappe

Good Boy. :yes: You know you want that S2S. They are really, really, really, nice. HINT, HINT, HINT. The 24's might even be a bit nicer, nicer, nicer, HINT, HINT, HINT. :roflblack:

 

[broderp]

There are some changes coming for 2024 model that are very nice. So you should take that into consideration.

I didn't see a whole lot other than a new 10.3 gauge display with Apple Car Play (worthless to us Android Users), a few new colors and LED headlights on some models. The upcharge for these was not enough IMO to justify the cost over discounted 2023. Now granted I looked at the higher end models in passing as I was focused on the F3-S and F3-T. I saved about 4K going with the 2023 vs waiting and preordering a 2024 that would be in a color I did not like and with Apple Car Play I couldn't use. \

Everyone's mileage will vary. :cheers:

 

[CopperSpyder]

I didn't see a whole lot other than a new 10.3 gauge display with Apple Car Play (worthless to us Android Users), a few new colors and LED headlights on some models. The upcharge for these was not enough IMO to justify the cost over discounted 2023. Now granted I looked at the higher end models in passing as I was focused on the F3-S and F3-T. I saved about 4K going with the 2023 vs waiting and preordering a 2024 that would be in a color I did not like and with Apple Car Play I couldn't use. \

Everyone's mileage will vary. :cheers:

So the OP was talking about a Sea to Sky, The changes that I saw in the 2024 model were larger dash screen with much more functionality, easier to shift into reverse, no visible antenna that they claim works 3 times better than the old way, better head light switch control on left side, different colors that one might like better. I also said to take the 2024 into consideration, meaning you may or may not like the 2024 better and cost may play a part also. But to buy one now without knowing about all the changes what will be out in two or 3 months would be maddening for some people. With this if the OP looks they can make an informed decision.

I just wanted to add the they said that with the new dash you will be able to do some diagnosis without having to use a BUDs system.

 

[2dogs]

My grandad is what car salesmen called a "tire kicker." My wife was a bookkeeper/DMV girl at a local Chrysler dealership, and she cringed whenever she saw him walk in the front door. From the first day I knew anything about anything, my grandad always had to have the newest model car with all the bells and whistles. To my knowledge, he never owned a new car long enough to wear out a set of tires. My wife figured out that with all the incidentals that came with a new car purchase, tax, license, trade in deprecation, and so on, he could have owned several Rolls Royce’s during his life-time. I look at this way, if you've got and want it, then spend it; because you certainly can't take it with you when you go.

 

[ARtraveler]

My grandad is what car salesmen called a "tire kicker." My wife was a bookkeeper/DMV girl at a local Chrysler dealership, and she cringed whenever she saw him walk in the front door. From the first day I knew anything about anything, my grandad always had to have the newest model car with all the bells and whistles. To my knowledge, he never owned a new car long enough to wear out a set of tires. My wife figured out that with all the incidentals that came with a new car purchase, tax, license, trade in deprecation, and so on, he could have owned several Rolls Royce’s during his life-time. I look at this way, if you've got and want it, then spend it; because you certainly can't take it with you when you go.

Yes to your statement. I got to figuring out what I spent in just Spyders since 2008. Over $250,000 and that did not include depreciation, insurance, gas, and maintenance. It was fun though. And I would most likely do it again.

 

[2dogs]

Yes to your statement. I got to figuring out what I spent in just Spyders since 2008. Over $250,000 and that did not include depreciation, insurance, gas, and maintenance. It was fun though. And I would most likely do it again.

Ahh, you gotta love it! :yes: I may just ride my 14 RT right into my grave. :riding: Without my passenger of course.