daddydarko
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I still think $400 is way too much to pay for fog lights. Has anyone found an alternative for the :spyder:?
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Fog Light Alternative?
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alternative fog lights
I purchased a really slick set of driving lights from Pep Boys. I wired them directly to the switched accessory fuse box. I did this for several reasons. First, I mounted the lights to the trailiing arms (in between the two arms) For opposing traffic, the bike looks three times as wide. Second, the lights do not restrict airflow like the factory set up does. Third, I'd rather pay $25 than over $400.
I purchased a really slick set of driving lights from Pep Boys. I wired them directly to the switched accessory fuse box. I did this for several reasons. First, I mounted the lights to the trailiing arms (in between the two arms) For opposing traffic, the bike looks three times as wide. Second, the lights do not restrict airflow like the factory set up does. Third, I'd rather pay $25 than over $400.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
You can't post it as an attachment. Takes a different procedure. Instructions elsewhere on this forum. I would sure like to see how the PIAA lights look. Where did you mount them?
-Scotty
Spyderman62
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I'm with you - I see no reason to spend big $$$ on a set of fog lights - "hellooooo fog lights are for fog, you gotta be kidding if you think they will help you see. Now...If someone were to make a "driving light" to mount into the same spot, I am all for that. I spent too many years living in Europe and driving in real fog - ie 5 mph or slower speeds. On a bike, if it foggy out, I'm a drivin the truck not a bike. keep in mind, these are my comments, and feelings. I am not passing judgement, or telling anyone else what to do or not to do, just my two cent worth of an oppinion - something we all have. Thanks
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Actually, the BRP foglights are neither fish, nor fowl. They do light things up down low, like foglights, but do not have a flat beam, so the light will likely scatter in the fog. They are fairly strong, but not as strong as the headlights, and certainly not stronger, so they are not driving lights, either.
As to their performance, they are top notch! They light up a wide area right in front of the Spyder, and certainly aid visibility at slow speeds, for road hazards, and during turns. I really think the combination of the foglights and projector headlights is the best I have ever seen on a stock motorcycle. Some have taken things a step further, but this is better than my Beemer with the PIAA headlight, and far better than any vintage bike I own.
In terms of being seen, I love them! We never turn them off. When I look into my rearview mirror when we are riding in a group, my wife can always be spotted on the Spyder. The low beam shows up well, but doesn't blind. The four light pattern is distinctive, so it attracts attention. I think having the extra lights at a different location and angle helps a lot. Other foglights would probably do the same thing, but the BRP version looks perfectly stock, lets you be seen, and helps light things up well. Definitely worth the effort...and in my opinion, the money.
-Scotty
As to their performance, they are top notch! They light up a wide area right in front of the Spyder, and certainly aid visibility at slow speeds, for road hazards, and during turns. I really think the combination of the foglights and projector headlights is the best I have ever seen on a stock motorcycle. Some have taken things a step further, but this is better than my Beemer with the PIAA headlight, and far better than any vintage bike I own.
In terms of being seen, I love them! We never turn them off. When I look into my rearview mirror when we are riding in a group, my wife can always be spotted on the Spyder. The low beam shows up well, but doesn't blind. The four light pattern is distinctive, so it attracts attention. I think having the extra lights at a different location and angle helps a lot. Other foglights would probably do the same thing, but the BRP version looks perfectly stock, lets you be seen, and helps light things up well. Definitely worth the effort...and in my opinion, the money.
-Scotty
I have been curious if anyone has seen any difference in engine temp after BRP fog lights were installed. The stock openings look like they were specifically designed to channel air to the oil cooler and the radiator. I realize that they are not large openings, but it looks like they were designed for that purpose. With all of the posts and concerns about high temps, I would think that keeping as much air flow as possible for cooling would be wise.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Our temps have been quite normal, as far as I can see. I am not a believer in the "two-bar" theory, though. We run 3 bars in cooler weather (sixties or below) and 3-5 when it is in the nineties, depending on the speed. Have seen 5-6 and the fan on in stop-and-go only a few times, with weather in the eighties. Seems about average. There is still a small vent hole left with the foglights.
-Scotty
Scotty,
Thanks for the input. I run 3 bars in cool weather and 4-5 in warm weather. On the expressway, always 4 bars or below due to higher air flow. I only see 5 bars in hot weather city driving and fan comes on and drops it back to 4. Never seen 6 bars in 1600 miles. I like the BRP fog lamps, but the price and concern about blocking air flow still has me holding off for some after market set up.
Thanks for the input. I run 3 bars in cool weather and 4-5 in warm weather. On the expressway, always 4 bars or below due to higher air flow. I only see 5 bars in hot weather city driving and fan comes on and drops it back to 4. Never seen 6 bars in 1600 miles. I like the BRP fog lamps, but the price and concern about blocking air flow still has me holding off for some after market set up.
spyderrider44
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fog light opening
:chat: The opening for the fog lights is exactly what it is , they part of the design of the :spyder:because in Europe and down under they require fog lights it is the law, and here in the good ol USA they don't. So you see they are not for venting or air flow like they might look like :dontknow:
:chat: The opening for the fog lights is exactly what it is , they part of the design of the :spyder:because in Europe and down under they require fog lights it is the law, and here in the good ol USA they don't. So you see they are not for venting or air flow like they might look like :dontknow:
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
I have seen six bars only once. Ninety degrees, and I was stuck in exceedingly slow traffic at our Cruise-the-Gut car event downtown. Took over half an hour to navigate two city blocks! The bar was only there for a second. In fact, the fan only came on three times, briefly. Our normal temps with the foglights run just like yours. The radiators have plenty of other intake space to breathe, probably less outlet area, although I haven't measured. I don't think the foglights are a factor in the slightest. The ambient air temp sensor is still right behind one of the vents, and it reads perfectly normally, in it's own Spyder way. If the lack of venting built up heat, I think you would see a rise in the temp reading. This vent is likely more for intake air than for cooling, and the Spyder certainly isn't running richer in any way with the foglights. I think BRP engineered this setup to be OK. Remember, these aren't an aftermarket afterthought.
-Scotty
For the most part, I have confidence in the BRP design process, but that was shaken when I found out the hard way that the rear sport rack design blocks the inside lens screw making it very difficult to replace rear light bulbs. You would think that they would have caught that. From a design standpoint, both the rear sport rack and the fog lights suffer from what some might call a "design flaw" in that they are difficult to install. The BRP web site and accessory catalog still state that the the fog lamps are "easy installation". Most factory accessories that I have bought for other bikes are pretty much clean bolt ons and don't require you to disassemble your bike to install. I will probably hold off until Christmas and put teh Fog Lamps on my wish list, but I don't know if anyone in my family likes me that much.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Fog lights...
I love the fog lights...any extra visibility is good when you're on the road.
You can get the fog lights cheaper. Call Mosites Motorsports in PA...ask for Todd Chapman...he has great deals on BRP parts...they are an authorized dealer and he's easy to work with...he doesn't mark up the products as much...
I love the fog lights...any extra visibility is good when you're on the road.
You can get the fog lights cheaper. Call Mosites Motorsports in PA...ask for Todd Chapman...he has great deals on BRP parts...they are an authorized dealer and he's easy to work with...he doesn't mark up the products as much...
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