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Another fire -

Donzo

New member
I took a ride today and on the way home I smelled smoke then a little white smoke showed from the tank area....then black smoke and flames. I pulled over and saw my favorite toy go up in flames - I am sick and angry, you don't think it can happen to you....you are wrong!!!!

I had what thought was the best machine and it was a goner in flames in minutes......

This is a serious problem and we need to stop riding before it happens to more of our machines - I took great care of my machine and it still went up in flames................ who's next??

Wake up and stay home.
 
I took a ride today and on the way home I smelled smoke then a little white smoke showed from the tank area....then black smoke and flames. I pulled over and saw my favorite toy go up in flames - I am sick and angry, you don't think it can happen to you....you are wrong!!!!

I had what thought was the best machine and it was a goner in flames in minutes......

This is a serious problem and we need to stop riding before it happens to more of our machines - I took great care of my machine and it still went up in flames................ who's next??

Wake up and stay home.


Glad you're okay-- but sure sorry about your loss!

Do you know if you had the 'second' update done where they re-route the evap line?
 
Really sorry to hear this. Glad you are physically OK! Did your Spyder have the emissions canister vent extension? Please report this to the NHTSA. Few of the fires have been reported...and it is important!
 
I took a ride today and on the way home I smelled smoke then a little white smoke showed from the tank area....then black smoke and flames. I pulled over and saw my favorite toy go up in flames - I am sick and angry, you don't think it can happen to you....you are wrong!!!!

I had what thought was the best machine and it was a goner in flames in minutes......

This is a serious problem and we need to stop riding before it happens to more of our machines - I took great care of my machine and it still went up in flames................ who's next??

Wake up and stay home.

Damn it! Obviously the black smoke is the fuel and plastic but what caused the white? I know things happened fast and I praise God most of all that you're safe. Full tank? Hot day? You said the tank area. Right or left of center? Most importantly, did you ever experience any suspicious leaks or fuel smells that went away as fast as they came?
 
Very glad you're OK. I hope your insurance company will take the time to look at what is left of your Spyder and try to see where and/or how the fire started. I have never seen any posts where that has been done on any fire. Reports can be turned in to all the government agencies under the sun, but until someone takes the initiative to dig into the cause, BRP will be shooting in the dark for a cure. I wish that BRP would take the time to have one of the burned Spyders shipped to them for a thorough investigation for causes. If that has been done, I have never read of it.
 
So Sorry for you Donzo, Thank God you didn't go with it

Don and I have been riding together since I bought my Spyder. Now his is gone the same way as mine. BRP best get a handle on this before some one is killed.
And to all of you who keep saying "your insurance company" are wrong, wrong, wrong! This is not a insurance company problem it is totally a BRP problem.
:gaah::gaah::gaah:
 
I don't have pics yet. But the police and fire dept showed up and took several - so I will have some soon.
Its funny - my neighbor showed up (15 miles from home), my daughters boy friend showed up.... and -- my insurance guy also showed up and won the "whos gonna drive the poor guy home" contest.
He had the tow truck take the Spyder to a local lot so the adjusters etc can go there w/o having to come to my house. I plan on going and taking the mods off that I put on that were not burned.

I stopped in front of a K mart and a bar/resturant when I saw the smoke. I ran in and told them to call 911 - someone ran out with a big fire extinguisher and put the fire out pretty quick....but the seat/tank area and full speedo pod/ windshield are toast and the FD ripped off the panels to disconnect the battery because the fire melted fuel lines.The trunk was warped..
I think it is a total loss - I know I don't want it back either way. I spent so much money and time on this machine - and spent so much time selling the idea of this design as cool....I just don't think I want to go down this path anymore - I have good insurance and good documentation of what happened = maybe I am tired and upset tonight but, I think I am done with the Spyder.
I thought ...not me, I did everything right and babied my Spyder - I was proven wrong and don't trust the platform anymore.
I filled up the day before this ride and had gone 70-80 miles when the fire started - so the overfill issue was not an issue.
I am warning you all.....there is a REAL fire issue to consider with the bike - there will be more - its a bummer.
I am going to bed now and try and sleep - I dis-like negativity and hate to be so down...but I will be sprucing up my long ignored Sabre 1100 as my new toy while all this gets sorted out.
I smell a class action suit in the Spyder/BRP future if they don't help out the ones that have burned ....thus far. How many other bikes do you hear of burning......while just driving down the road?
Goodnight and thanks for the kind words.
Don
 
Hey guys, how can one tell if the vent extension has been put in place? Is there any visual way to tell? I'd like to check mine, and possibly take photos of it just in case this happens to me. That way, BRP would know whether the fix works or not.
 
RE: Fire

As with the last report on this matter, I'm glad Don's alright and no one is injured. I understand the upset of a Spyder Ryder who watches his/her baby go up in smoke. However:

I just spent a week in the Smokies with upward of 300 Spyders of all modifications. Seemed that about 80% were RS's ... and 20% RTs. These machines were filled up daily; many "topped of" to avoid running out of gas in the hills, and subjected to very demanding, hot and challenging driving conditions. We had no fires. I think someone reported a problem that resulted in a limp mode drive to a repair.

Before making omnibus statements that enjoin the general Spyder community to park their bikes and "stop riding," and stay home, let us be clear that this problem seems to be limited to earlier GS/RS's. No reports that I've seen with the RTs, knock on wood. I think the total number of fire incidents reported on this site now totals eight or nine, and yes, any number, even a small percentage, is too high in that regard.

I agree that there needs to be a response from BRP, and the Spyder Community needs to work together to figure out what's happened this handful of bikes. I don't agree (yet) that the solution is to defame the machine, BRP; encourage others to park their Spyders and stay home, not ryde and/or tarnish a favorable perception of Spyder ownership.

Again, this in no way lessens my sympathy toward owners who've experienced the problem; if it happened to me, I'd be mortified. I certainly understand Don's exasperation. It's a natural way to feel. However, I'm simply encouraging that we work together to objectively isolate this issue to produce more light than heat. The questions I would have include -- What year and model were the bikes involved? How many miles on the odometer? How many of the bikes that incurred a fire actually had the factory recalls on the fuel vents performed? Has anyone spoken to BRP? What did they say?
 
Huge commisserations for your loss. From a personal point of view, my Spyder has become more than just a mode of transport. It has added a whole new interest and dimension to my life and to see it go up in flames would leave me gutted and in a sense, betrayed. We can only hope that your experience, devastating as it has been, will have a positive outcome by forcing BRP into action. Until that happens, I for one will never again leave home without a readily accessible fire extinguisher. How sad is that.
 
Very sorry to hear that your spyder is gone and I feel I know what you are talking about when you said that you treated it like a baby and still went up in flames.
These fires have made me worry because I park mine in a wooden shed right next to the 100 gallon tank of home heating oil. Have been letting it sit outside for an hour to cool down, just in case.
Hope you have good insurance.
All the best.
 
Don,
Sorry this happenned, glad you are OK.
Did you have the evap relocate update ? (Sorry if I missed the answer)
 
Don and I have been riding together since I bought my Spyder. Now his is gone the same way as mine. BRP best get a handle on this before some one is killed.
And to all of you who keep saying "your insurance company" are wrong, wrong, wrong! This is not a insurance company problem it is totally a BRP problem.
:gaah::gaah::gaah:

Certainly this is a BRP caused problem-- that BRP needs to address and fix -- but your insurance is there for just such occurrences--- to get you your money back quickly. I don't think any of us would want to wait for BRP for reimbursement.....

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A key to this entire problem that we need to know is whether or not either of you had the Evap Canister Vent hose extension done.

I have yet to hear of any Spyder having a fire that had the hose extension done---- so knowing for sure whether you or Donzo had this done is very important.

Also of major importance is filing a report with the NHTSA.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm

Make sure and select CAN-AM from the drop down list -- not CAM-AM. Unfortunately some have filed their reports under CAM-AM.

Current records show 2 fires reported on 2008 models and 2 fires for 2009 models. They can't do anything unless they are made aware of this.

It took a handful of us to get the ball rolling with the steering recall. I'm not sure what the magic number is with the NHTSA before they get serious --- but from the steering situation--- it didn't take very many reports to get action.

PLEASE report these right away.

And please let us know if you had the evap extension done or not.

For those that are not sure-- the extension goes from the top of the evap canister up to a hole in the splash panel near the radiator. The hose is inside of the plastic sheath material for most of the run. If you get under the Spyder you should be able to see the end of the hose from beneath near the radiator.
 
For those that are not sure-- the extension goes from the top of the evap canister up to a hole in the splash panel near the radiator. The hose is inside of the plastic sheath material for most of the run. If you get under the Spyder you should be able to see the end of the hose from beneath near the radiator.

For those who are mechanically challenged (like myself), can you post pics of the panels and hose in question?

Thanks,

Chris.
 
As with the last report on this matter, I'm glad Don's alright and no one is injured. I understand the upset of a Spyder Ryder who watches his/her baby go up in smoke. However:

I just spent a week in the Smokies with upward of 300 Spyders of all modifications. Seemed that about 80% were RS's ... and 20% RTs. These machines were filled up daily; many "topped of" to avoid running out of gas in the hills, and subjected to very demanding, hot and challenging driving conditions. We had no fires. I think someone reported a problem that resulted in a limp mode drive to a repair.

Before making omnibus statements that enjoin the general Spyder community to park their bikes and "stop riding," and stay home, let us be clear that this problem seems to be limited to earlier GS/RS's. No reports that I've seen with the RTs, knock on wood. I think the total number of fire incidents reported on this site now totals eight or nine, and yes, any number, even a small percentage, is too high in that regard.

I agree that there needs to be a response from BRP, and the Spyder Community needs to work together to figure out what's happened this handful of bikes. I don't agree (yet) that the solution is to defame the machine, BRP; encourage others to park their Spyders and stay home, not ryde and/or tarnish a favorable perception of Spyder ownership.

Again, this in no way lessens my sympathy toward owners who've experienced the problem; if it happened to me, I'd be mortified. I certainly understand Don's exasperation. It's a natural way to feel. However, I'm simply encouraging that we work together to objectively isolate this issue to produce more light than heat. The questions I would have include -- What year and model were the bikes involved? How many miles on the odometer? How many of the bikes that incurred a fire actually had the factory recalls on the fuel vents performed? Has anyone spoken to BRP? What did they say?

Don I'm really sorry for your loss, but glad to hear that you are ok. As for Silver Surfer, I also was at the Smokies and there is no way I saw 300 Spyders there, or 200 for that matter. I counted 97 at Lamont's, so there was probably around 150-175 or so max.

Now regarding these fires: those 4 or 5 mentioned, are the ones that we know about. Not everyone knows about SpyderLovers, and SpyderTalk, and I'm sure BRP is not going to come out and volunteer any negative information like this. I had my DPS recall done at Alcoa last week and love the way it steers now but it was a long time coming, way too long if you ask me. I did the Dragon 2 days before and it was very hard with the way my bike used to steer. What I'm trying to get at is that it will probably take many more fires and possibly a fatality or two before BRP is forced to act.

I'm not a fan of Carlo after having my Spyder down at the dealer's for 63 days and having him tell me that my only recourse was to force the dealer to fix my bike all the while having BRP deny them permission to replace what they thought was wrong!

There are problems with these machines and as much as I love mine, I'm very close to reaching the limit of my patience. This Friday I will go to a new dealer they told me about at the Rally to try to get the problem with my lights solved (they turn on-off, and dim while riding):gaah:. I feel there is a problem with the main harness which leads me to believe that I will be one of the next fire victims.
 
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