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A front wheel WILL come off the ground (I found out this weekend)

GRHorst

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I was sort of shooting a gap to make a left turn at an intersection. We were probably going only ~10 mph (I'd guess). I was in a low gear, made a sharp left as I hit the throttle. The front left wheel came off the ground. :lecturef_smilie:

I hadn't experienced this before. I quickly backed off the throttle and brought the wheel back down with a bit of a bump (my wife thought we just hit a bump ... no idea what that "bump" was until I told her.)

Still having some new experiences every ride ...
 
Easy to do that when making a tight turn and gassing. Almost like a half-wheelie. Best to ease the throttle on until you're pointing straighter.
 
If wheel came off ground, VSS icon would have showed on screen. After you gassed it , wheel off ground, VSS, throttle should have been cut
 
I was sort of shooting a gap to make a left turn at an intersection. We were probably going only ~10 mph (I'd guess). I was in a low gear, made a sharp left as I hit the throttle. The front left wheel came off the ground. :lecturef_smilie:

I hadn't experienced this before. I quickly backed off the throttle and brought the wheel back down with a bit of a bump (my wife thought we just hit a bump ... no idea what that "bump" was until I told her.)

Still having some new experiences every ride ...

Same happened to us and in the same situation. Hard left turn and on the throttle hard. I figure it happened quickly and the left wheel was still turning so Nanny saw no difference in the wheel speeds and at that slow speed there wasn't enough centrifugal force to trigger those sensors either. If the rear tire had broken loose Nanny may have jumped in, but whatever surface I was on the Altimax bit hard with no spinning. Electronic safety gadgets are great, but if you bet your life on them it may be the last bet you ever make.
 
Same happened to us and in the same situation. Hard left turn and on the throttle hard. I figure it happened quickly and the left wheel was still turning so Nanny saw no difference in the wheel speeds and at that slow speed there wasn't enough centrifugal force to trigger those sensors either. If the rear tire had broken loose Nanny may have jumped in, but whatever surface I was on the Altimax bit hard with no spinning. Electronic safety gadgets are great, but if you bet your life on them it may be the last bet you ever make.

That's probably the most significant thing about successfully lifting a front wheel without triggering the Nanny - if you can keep off the brakes as you work your weight, the steering, & the throttle to keep all the other forces balanced without exceeding the sensor limits (especially the Yaw sensor - there's a smidge of leeway with rear wheel spin, even on an RT! :) ) it's possible to ryde safely for quite some distance with one front wheel in the air. :thumbup: It's generally easier if you start with a gentle turn & then add in a bit of a blat of harder steering than is strictly necessary to get the wheel up, then it's a balancing act for steering & body movement teamed with some gentle throttle corrections so you can hold the 'Spyder Salute' for a fair way! :ohyea:

But for most ryders, you really don't need to worry too much about lifting a wheel, the Nanny will step in PDQ if she thinks you're gonna go over! :thumbup: . Sure, she can't protect you from the really aggressive wheel lifts that massive evasive action or downright silly/stupid control inputs can bring, but short of those &/or being tagged by something like a kerb or another vehicle, the Nanny is generally more than capable of looking after you! :yes:

So, don't be too 'scared' of things like gently lifting a wheel happening, or even of doing something that gets a gentle admonition from the Nanny - it's all stuff you can learn from! :lecturef_smilie: . Just work out exactly what it was that you did to produce whatever the particular disturbing event was, and then either learn to keep your ryding inputs juuuust below that limit, or if you're more like some here (opps:) you might wanta learn how far you can (hopefully gently & progressively :rolleyes: ) push that envelope without getting smacked down hard by the Nanny!! :shocked: . (Or if you're really into pain, you can push it 'til you get slam dunked onto the tarmac! I'm not sayin' nuthin' more 'bout that, except that IT HURTS! :cus: . Nanny usually looks after the Spyder tho! ;) )

In the meantime, just........


RIDE MORE, WORRY LESS!
 
Same happened to us and in the same situation. Hard left turn and on the throttle hard. I figure it happened quickly and the left wheel was still turning so Nanny saw no difference in the wheel speeds and at that slow speed there wasn't enough centrifugal force to trigger those sensors either. If the rear tire had broken loose Nanny may have jumped in, but whatever surface I was on the Altimax bit hard with no spinning. Electronic safety gadgets are great, but if you bet your life on them it may be the last bet you ever make.

Sounds the same as my (our) experience. I just instinctively backed of the throttle immediately and it came back down. There was no interference from the nanny. Apparently because it was quick, no brake, and no significant slowing of the lifted wheel. But I was looking at the dash and wondering if I was going to have my wrist slapped by the nanny. :lecturef_smilie:
 
I have actually been able to pull a short wheelie with both wheels at one of our lights near work . It's a left turn with a slight incline from the light.

I have had a couple people from work see me do it and they tell me they didn't know I could do a wheelie with it.

I didn't know I could do it either nor realized I was doing it because it was such a smooth transition that was happening with the road.
 
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Now that I know it can happen, I don't really have any intention to do pop up a wheel again, certainly not on purpose. Perhaps if it happens during an evasive maneuver, I will expect it and lean more in preparation?

It's like when I was a teenage driver, many years ago, we would take our cars onto an icy parking lot and spin it around for fun. But I can honestly say that having developed that ice-handling skill saved me from a crash more than once. (For you southerners, yes the roads up north will freeze up from freezing rain or packed snow. :ohyea: )
 
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