2011 RT Fog Lamps not lit Headlights work fine

[traderbobnc]

So, I come to the well again, for help with this temperamental femme fatale.
I despise electrical problems... as much or more than mechanical problems.
I'm a computer guy not an electrician or mechanic.

2011 RT: I think these are fog lamps - not designed to be on all the time.


They don't light - not when the headlamp switch is on high or low... not when I hit any of the rocker switches on the console panel.
I will admit to removing the Frunk when I was digging into trying to get to the airbox and the coolant reservoir, but I promise I tried to reconnect all the wires before I put the Frunk back on the bike. Full disclosure, I'm not completely sure the fog lamps ever worked, because I never used them on purpose.

So I started to explore the possibility that there is a fuse problem.

I downloaded a repair manual - so I'd have one - but admittedly, it covers 2008-2012 CanAm Spyder GS RS and perhaps not the RT.

Looking through the repair manual I see these


But they don't really cover the fog lamps (if that is indeed what they are)
The closest match would be MF7 (headlights)... so no match there.

There is no problem with the headlights. They work fine.

So, on to the fuses in the Frunk:



According to the "book", F12 is for the Fog Light Relay.
OK. Where is F12? According to the label, F12 is on the bottom right hand side of the fuse box - but f12 is labeled EVAP Cap, Fuel Motor, Prestarting relay... Not fog lamps. In fact, none of the labels on the cover mention fog lamps at all.
So, before I pull and examine every flipping fuse, which one should I focus on for those lights? If in fact they are fog lamps.
Secondly, which switch or control, turns those lights off and on - are they supposed to be on with the low/high beams?
Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge and experience. I promise if I had any, I'd share it with you all.

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Well Bob, you can't troubleshoot an RT with an RS shop manual. Just saying.

Ok then, front fuse box. On the RT, the fog lights come off of fuse F8, via Load Shedding Relay R5. The fuse and relay feed many things. The relays are those square black things.

Quick Check - does your horn work? If it does, then F8 is good. Start the motor and turn your heated front grips on HI. If they get hot after a few minutes then the relay is good....as well as F8. If both check good, better go back and revisit that wiring, and of course, they could both be burned out. The fog lights are operated by the rocker switch on the far right. The motor has to be running. There are no other relays or fuses between the rocker switch and the lights.

Seems like you need an Owners Manual. The fuse designations for your RT are in the back section. You can download one here. Just use the dropdown menu in the upper left to select Roadster and the year.

 

[traderbobnc]

Well Bob, you can't troubleshoot an RT with an RS shop manual. Just saying.

Ok then, front fuse box. On the RT, the fog lights come off of fuse F8, via Load Shedding Relay R5. The fuse and relay feed many things. The relays are those square black things.

Quick Check - does your horn work? If it does, then F8 is good. Start the motor and turn your heated front grips on HI. If they get hot after a few minutes then the relay is good....as well as F8. If both check good, better go back and revisit that wiring, and of course, they could both be burned out. The fog lights are operated by the rocker switch on the far right. The motor has to be running. There are no other relays or fuses between the rocker switch and the lights.

Seems like you need an Owners Manual. The fuse designations for your RT are in the back section. You can download one here. Just use the dropdown menu in the upper left to select Roadster and the year.

Thanks Snowbelt. I REALLY appreciate the quick reply. You are correct, as I was flipping the switches on the Console, the engine was not on... So I will definitely start it and test hit that rocker on the far right. But I have to ask, I've looked all over on the Main Menu on this site on the main page

for a link to the owners manual, and just can't fine it.
What am I missing?

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

My fault. I forgot to hit Paste. Sorry for the wild goose chase. Go here....

http://www.operatorsguides.brp.com/Index.aspx?lang=E&s1=7e0fd218-a842-4392-bd95-364b37bf685b

But just to cover all the bases, you should have a fuzzy, cloth liner in your frunk, I believe. Unzip the back panel of the liner. Behind there, down towards the bottom, was the stowage location of the hard copy manual. See if yours is still there.

 

[Mikey]

Thanks Doug!! Very handy:thumbup:

 

[traderbobnc]

Awesome! Thanks. I unzipped and looked - no manual. But I've got this one now! Thanks!

 

[traderbobnc]

Tried the rocker switch with the engine on and low and behold I got lights. You guys save me a lotta hassle. Thank you thank you again snowbelt