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NHTSA investigation update

When the fan boys go silent

Crickets.....


After having read through the information request. One thought came to mind. This is far from over. It's just getting started. Sad thing is....it DID NOT have to come to this. 'Choices' do have consequences.
 
Dave,
Thanks for the update! :thumbup:
There's going to be repercussions to all of this... :shocked:
I guess that we'll have to wait and see where the chips fall... :bbq::bbq::bbq:
 
Remember

When I think of all the 'Good Folks' over the years who have been attacked for complaining about everything that is now under investigation. In truth. It makes me sick.
 
I, for one < am hoping this is a case of patience (and being stubborn) will be a virtue in this case. Did you notice the recall compliance numbers? ~75% have had it done I wonder about the other 25% and how many potential melted MC and Evap canisters are ready to pop?:yikes: That is the scariest part. Maybe some were trade ins :dontknow:
 
Bottom line I can recreate the fuel smell issue easily!
1) Have about 1/3 of your gas tank full.
2) Ride in stop and go traffic in 90F or above ambient temps for about 30 minutes.

Every time I have this combination the gas stink even while on the thing is pretty bad and there have been days I almost had to get off the thing as it was making me nauseous.

However, I have been doing what others suggested. Fill up the tank before going home.
YES when I pop the cap off the gas is boiling so much you can hear it just standing next to it.
But filling it up does calm down the issue so I can park in the garage without my wife freaking out but I have to ride it a few miles to let the evap can clear.
Still some gas smell but certainly not as bad as had I not filled it up.

As far as heat, either I am tolerant or not having an issue.
Yes with my NVB pegs the blow hole will burn you so it has to be blocked off to use those.
But on the stock pegs, I only have a little discomfort and can feel the heat but not enough to make me stop riding it.

But, this is good news for us users. I will take any fix that solves the stink and the fumes which is a fire danger in my opinion. I have been grounding myself to the frame before opening the gas cap and other precautions to not ignite the fumes!

Lets all hope for a quick resolution to this :thumbup:

Bob
 
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Civil Penalties - bottom of page 12 (pdf)

Doubt there will be any foot dragging or failure to respond to these folks.
 
I, for one < am hoping this is a case of patience (and being stubborn) will be a virtue in this case. Did you notice the recall compliance numbers? ~75% have had it done I wonder about the other 25% and how many potential melted MC and Evap canisters are ready to pop?:yikes: That is the scariest part. Maybe some were trade ins :dontknow:

Well I for one still have my 2013 RT (bought new Mar 1, 14) - but have NEVER received a recall notice.

Until today (since reading the NHTSA letter) I have been oblivious to the amount of recalls there have been & I must to admit to being somewhat shocked!

I am left wondering if any of the recalls were applied automatically by the service dept. when the bike was in for its 4000 mile oil change. All of my riding since having the bike have been approx. 200 mile round trips or less (typically only local within state short trips), during the summer the tank was hot when refueling and the panels / under seat & hot air near foot peg were getting really hot though luckily no gas smell!

Now that the cooler temps are here I have noticed a drop in heat when refueling and riding.

Actually my wife and I are planning riding our Spyders (hers is the 2012 RT LTD) to Eureka Springs Arkansas (pig trail) tomorrow and back Sunday from KC.

Crossing my fingers my 2013 RT is not one that is ready to POP as you say!
(but I will be keeping a close watch on it when refueling)
 
Well I for one still have my 2013 RT (bought new Mar 1, 14) - but have NEVER received a recall notice.

Until today (since reading the NHTSA letter) I have been oblivious to the amount of recalls there have been & I must to admit to being somewhat shocked!

I am left wondering if any of the recalls were applied automatically by the service dept. when the bike was in for its 4000 mile oil change. All of my riding since having the bike have been approx. 200 mile round trips or less (typically only local within state short trips), during the summer the tank was hot when refueling and the panels / under seat & hot air near foot peg were getting really hot though luckily no gas smell!

Now that the cooler temps are here I have noticed a drop in heat when refueling and riding.

Actually my wife and I are planning riding our Spyders (hers is the 2012 RT LTD) to Eureka Springs Arkansas (pig trail) tomorrow and back Sunday from KC.

Crossing my fingers my 2013 RT is not one that is ready to POP as you say!
(but I will be keeping a close watch on it when refueling)

Short answer is some do some don't it depends on the quality of the dealer.:dontknow:
 
Whoa!!

All this talk of fires and getting ready to pop makes you worry. I hope my 2012 LTD is in good shape. I don't want to ride in fear, and spending the kind of money for these machines, you shouldn't have to ride in fear. I hope BRP comes up with something good to relieve the owners and we can get back to enjoying these wonderful bikes and not worry, but just ride and have fun.:yes:
 
Sure does ..

All this talk of fires and getting ready to pop makes you worry. I hope my 2012 LTD is in good shape. I don't want to ride in fear, and spending the kind of money for these machines, you shouldn't have to ride in fear. I hope BRP comes up with something good to relieve the owners and we can get back to enjoying these wonderful bikes and not worry, but just ride and have fun.:yes:


I couldn't agree more with you. Nothing worse than having a (25K+) machine sitting in the garage and being too worried to ride it any distance for fear it will burst into flames in some out of the way location.

I am left wondering if maybe they need to redesign & re-route the exhaust system for the pre 2014 models - afterall it does seem to be cause of the heat issues.
 
I couldn't agree more with you. Nothing worse than having a (25K+) machine sitting in the garage and being too worried to ride it any distance for fear it will burst into flames in some out of the way location.

I am left wondering if maybe they need to redesign & re-route the exhaust system for the pre 2014 models - afterall it does seem to be cause of the heat issues.
Ceramic coated headers and proper gas tank and CAT insulation would help :thumbup:
 
I hope too. We havent had issues with the gas dripping but the heat has literally left burns on the inside of my wifes legs. And the fumes have been there from day one. Like everyone else, we were told "they all are like that". Well a few more months and maybe we will find out what all comes out in this.

Ours is a 11 RTS

Now I think I understand your avatar. It's a mask for the gas fumes. Does it work??:D

Jack
 
I hope this does not turn out like it did for the Corvair, or like it did for the Geo Tracker. Both were fine cars--for what they were-- and both are off the market now. You can't buy a Citroen in the U.S., and can't get a street legal Polaris (off-road) either.

I enjoy joy my Spyder. I hope it does not become only a memory.
 
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