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Hesitation on hard right turns

I HIGHLY recommend that those of you who have never ridden one without the nanny controls actually ride one and assess the handling for yourself.
It does NOBODY ANY good repeating junk you've "heard".

Way to much "he said this" or "BRP doesn't recommend that"....


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I HIGHLY recommend that those of you who have never ridden one without the nanny controls actually ride one and assess the handling for yourself.
It does NOBODY ANY good repeating junk you've "heard".

Way to much "he said this" or "BRP doesn't recommend that"....


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How can it be disable without causing everything else not to function correctly?
 
How can it be disable without causing everything else not to function correctly?

As far as I know, it can't, not with what's available with the stock electronics. At least not yet.
I have some hands on build time and have ridden one with the motor/electronics out of an Aprilia RSV. Which has no nanny whatsoever. Not even ABS.
Other than ABS I haven't missed the nanny at all with the limited seat time I've had. However, I haven't been in the rain with it yet. I'm sure its not as friendly.

We have been doing some testing with the steering sensor and yaw rate sensor. However, this is all way above my level of expertise. The guy I'm friends with who "gets it" doesn't do forums. For some obvious reasons.

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But doing the angle shim you were talking about changes the engagement angle to change the activation time?

Yes, but it is subtle because you still have the side to side inputs. Nanny is still there but is a bit more forgiving and let's up sooner.
So when you get a bit hot on the throttle with some side pitch, you still get the smack down.
It isn't a radical change so don't expect to much.... ;-)

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Well still gonna try it and see how it does, something is better then nothing at all

If you end up digging into this and dont mind, give something a try. While you have the yaw sensor loose stand it on its nose/connector up and just turn on the ignition. See if you get any faults. Wonder how far out of wack it can go.
Also,
At the advice of a good friend who is into Nissans,
I tried unplugging the sensor. From what I'm told with some of those cars they have wired in a switch that interrupts power to the yaw with great success to have some fun. Only downside was the vss light on the dash.
However, with the spyder it throws a vss fault/scrolling message, then a few seconds later a DPs fault with the check engine light.
I even tried turning the bike on and then unplugging, thinking it might initially register as OK....nope.

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Yeah I'll try that
If you unplug it on Gm cars it will activate the abs system at all times and just doesn't let ya do anything.

I be curious to get the wiring diagram and try to run a jumper to kinda by pass it
 
I wonder if we could figure out the input voltage when at rest and just jumper that all the time. Or wire in a second yaw sensor in a disabled position and making it switched with the existing one....
Its worth brainstorming right?

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I wonder if we could figure out the input voltage when at rest and just jumper that all the time. Or wire in a second yaw sensor in a disabled position and making it switched with the existing one....
Its worth brainstorming right?

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Hell yeah it would

gotta get a wiring diagram

Most car now a days seem to start with a 5 volt reference and I would think there some kinda of potentiometer inside that sensor.

When I called BRP a bout possibly recalibrating the VSS system to the setting that the 14s have but they told me everything has been changed so I would be curious if that is the case I would think they could work out a new calibration for it but it's not in there best interest so doubt that will ever happen
 
Hell yeah it would

gotta get a wiring diagram

Most car now a days seem to start with a 5 volt reference and I would think there some kinda of potentiometer inside that sensor.

When I called BRP a bout possibly recalibrating the VSS system to the setting that the 14s have but they told me everything has been changed so I would be curious if that is the case I would think they could work out a new calibration for it but it's not in there best interest so doubt that will ever happen

So your thinking the sensor is mechanical on the inside? I wish I had one to cut into....but those suckers are pricey!

What's odd is that there are a TON of identical Bosch yaw rate sensors with the exact same plug for many vehicles, but with different part numbers....,
Hmmmm....wonder if different sensors have different calibrations based on movement?

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I looked up the part numbers today between the 13 and 14 and they are different every thing on them .
We don't replace many at work but I'll keep a eye out for one and see if I can find one
 
A couple of years' ago; some of the gang tried to contact Bosch, to see if there was a way to program the VSS for varying degress of sensitivity.
They failed to score any useful information... :shocked:
 
Looks like your right about the 5v reference.
My first thought is to take the acceleration line output out of the mix. Or give it a 2.5v steady reference?

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