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09 RS - HID question answered

Thanks for all of the opinions on this thread. I will be the guinea pig for you as I went ahead and placed an order for a couple of these kits. I ordered 55 watt H7 with 6,000K bulbs for the headlights, and figured I would give the 35 watt H8 with 3,000K bulbs a try in the fog lights. For some reason I really like the idea of the yellow looking fog lights. :dontknow: Hopefully I will not cause a meltdown on my Spyder, as that would truly suck. Before I install them I will make a video of what my stock lights look like, how much light they give off, and then show what the new ones look like.

Worst case scenario, if the bulbs don't look good, at these prices I can always switch them out. Wish me luck!. :D
 
SpyderWolf said:
Thanks for all of the opinions on this thread. I will be the guinea pig for you as I went ahead and placed an order for a couple of these kits. I ordered 55 watt H7 with 6,000K bulbs for the headlights, and figured I would give the 35 watt H8 with 3,000K bulbs a try in the fog lights. For some reason I really like the idea of the yellow looking fog lights. :dontknow: Hopefully I will not cause a meltdown on my Spyder, as that would truly suck. Before I install them I will make a video of what my stock lights look like, how much light they give off, and then show what the new ones look like.

Worst case scenario, if the bulbs don't look good, at these prices I can always switch them out. Wish me luck!. :D
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I think they will be too bright for everyday use. There is a good reason why most hid, cheap and expensive are 35w. On remote hwy, you can use your high beams. :2thumbs:
 
[/QUOTE]Worst case scenario, if the bulbs don't look good, at these prices I can always switch them out. Wish me luck!. :D
I can't see where a melt down is likely. I just sold my Harley V Rod that I modded with 55W 6K HID's. (DDM Tuning w/lifetime warranty and less than $50 for the whole setup) The V-Rod uses two lamps in one headlight enclosure. I didn't notice any additional heat over stock halogen lamps. And on top of that, I actually wired the lights so both Hi/Lo beams where lit when Hi beam was selected. Awesome amount of light on Hi beam at night, very visable and safe during the day. I have actually had more cagers, flash my stock RT-S lights at night than I did on the Harley.
My :spyder:RT-S has the shades for low beam and projector looking lenses and I'm not sure how the HID's would perform. But as you say, for the low cost, I made just go ahead and order them.
Sorry for the long novel.
 
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aka1004 said:
I think they will be too bright for everyday use. There is a good reason why most hid, cheap and expensive are 35w. On remote hwy, you can use your high beams. :2thumbs:
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Hmmm, I wonder if it is too late to change my order? Perhaps if I just went with the 35 watt 6,000K bulbs for each set life would be a whole lot simpler. :shocked:
 
The bulbs were cheap enough that I purchased a set of 3k fogs to test out and ran them for awhile. Unfortunately with the side markers being orange, the fogs being yellow and the headlights being white it didn't look right on MY spyder. On yours I think it will make a good combo because of your color scheme/graphix package.

I was going with yellows so other drivers would notice me more but it seems like the yellows were not standing out much during the day. I switched back to 5ks in the fogs and put white leds in the side markers to match them all up.

The Yellows were definately cool to see in action.
 
55w 6ks with that blue tint is going to be sick looking on your spyder man.
You definately have to take pics when you get that bad boy set up!
 
DaBusses said:
I can't see where a melt down is likely. I just sold my Harley V Rod that I modded with 55W 6K HID's. (DDM Tuning w/lifetime warranty and less than $50 for the whole setup) The V-Rod uses two lamps in one headlight enclosure. I didn't notice any additional heat over stock halogen lamps. And on top of that, I actually wired the lights so both Hi/Lo beams where lit when Hi beam was selected. Awesome amount of light on Hi beam at night, very visable and safe during the day. I have actually had more cagers, flash my stock RT-S lights at night than I did on the Harley.
My :spyder:RT-S has the shades for low beam and projector looking lenses and I'm not sure how the HID's would perform. But as you say, for the low cost, I made just go ahead and order them.
Sorry for the long novel.
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Thanks for that additional info as well. The link I posted somewhere above has the RT with 100 watt HID installed in a video.

A Guinea Pig, is a Guinea Pig. :roflblack: I will let my order stand and test the results once I get everything installed. If there is something I don't like, or the few cars I do see on the road are constantly flashing me, then we can start a whole new discussion on that. :roflblack:

I was able to get everything I mentioned for $125, as the slim ballasts were more expensive, the 55 watt bulbs cost more, and the 3,000K bulbs cost a little more as well.
 
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Motavar said:
The bulbs were cheap enough that I purchased a set of 3k fogs to test out and ran them for awhile. Unfortunately with the side markers being orange, the fogs being yellow and the headlights being white it didn't look right on MY spyder. On yours I think it will make a good combo because of your color scheme/graphix package.

I was going with yellows so other drivers would notice me more but it seems like the yellows were not standing out much during the day. I switched back to 5ks in the fogs and put white leds in the side markers to match them all up.

The Yellows were definately cool to see in action.
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Motavar said:
55w 6ks with that blue tint is going to be sick looking on your spyder man.
You definately have to take pics when you get that bad boy set up!
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Thanks, I will definitely take pics and a video of before and after. I also chose the yellow because I figured they are the real fog light color, and would go good with my Spyder lighting. The amber fog light rings should work well with them, at least I am hoping. :thumbup:
 
Yes the 6000k up and down looked really good
And 55w hid should be just matter being brighter and not being a more burden on spyders electrical system.
 
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I'm sure aka1004, wolf, and others already know but I'll throw this out there:

Over time the HIDs will slightly change color to a higher color spectrum (K value). Did you ever notice that some older BMWs or Acuras have a blue'er or purple color headlights from when they first came out? After a few years the color shifts a bit.

You may see people on the road with one white light and one blue/purple light because they may have replaced one bulb and the new bulb doesn't match the color shifted bulb. Phillips offers a 5k+ D2S replacement bulb to help match aged bulbs in cars and they offer a stock 4300 bulb. A lot of people don't know this when replacing bulbs and end up with the 4300 which looks a lot different from the other bulb that has been in there awhile.

Just throwing this out there for additional reference:
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When installing the HID bulb the bar should face down.
Unfortunately because the way some bulbs are made you are stuck with the bar being up. The HID will still fire okay but you may be subject to a shadow being cast out in the light ahead of you.

You see this more often in cars that have reflector headlights instead of ones with a lens.
 
Motavar said:
I'm sure aka1004, wolf, and others already know but I'll throw this out there:

Over time the HIDs will slightly change color to a higher color spectrum (K value). Did you ever notice that some older BMWs or Acuras have a blue'er or purple color headlights from when they first came out? After a few years the color shifts a bit.

You may see people on the road with one white light and one blue/purple light because they may have replaced one bulb and the new bulb doesn't match the color shifted bulb. Phillips offers a 5k+ D2S replacement bulb to help match aged bulbs in cars and they offer a stock 4300 bulb. A lot of people don't know this when replacing bulbs and end up with the 4300 which looks a lot different from the other bulb that has been in there awhile.

Just throwing this out there for additional reference:
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When installing the HID bulb the bar should face down.
Unfortunately because the way some bulbs are made you are stuck with the bar being up. The HID will still fire okay but you may be subject to a shadow being cast out in the light ahead of you.

You see this more often in cars that have reflector headlights instead of ones with a lens.
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This is all new to me, so thanks for the additional information as well as the installation tips. :thumbup:
 
I run the 3000k fogs in one of my Phantoms.

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Lately I have been having some weird VSS issues, high RPMs on start, and failure to starts. Finally figured it out and as it turns out... it matches exactly what Leo was explaining on another thread:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=275558#post275558

When my HID fogs are on and I attempt to start the spyder I get warning lights like crazy.

I definately confirmed today that the HIDs using the stock fog wiring causes an issue with the VSS/computer. While driving I turned the fogs on and the computer freaked out and shutdown. (was fun going 75 in the middle lane of the 3 lane highway in rush hour. Luckily I was able to get to the side of the road in time).

So the firing of the HID on the fog wiring must dip the power just enough for the VSS to freak.


* I believe the solution is to get a HID relay harness. Off to ebay I go :)
 
Motavar said:
Lately I have been having some weird VSS issues, high RPMs on start, and failure to starts. Finally figured it out and as it turns out... it matches exactly what Leo was explaining on another thread:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=275558#post275558

When my HID fogs are on and I attempt to start the spyder I get warning lights like crazy.

I definately confirmed today that the HIDs using the stock fog wiring causes an issue with the VSS/computer. While driving I turned the fogs on and the computer freaked out and shutdown. (was fun going 75 in the middle lane of the 3 lane highway in rush hour. Luckily I was able to get to the side of the road in time).

So the firing of the HID on the fog wiring must dip the power just enough for the VSS to freak.


* I believe the solution is to get a HID relay harness. Off to ebay I go :)
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Now you know why BRP specifies that you install a separate auxiliary harness when you run both HID headlights and their fog lights...and they haven't even ventured into HID fogs.
 
Motavar said:
Lately I have been having some weird VSS issues, high RPMs on start, and failure to starts. Finally figured it out and as it turns out... it matches exactly what Leo was explaining on another thread:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=275558#post275558

When my HID fogs are on and I attempt to start the spyder I get warning lights like crazy.

I definately confirmed today that the HIDs using the stock fog wiring causes an issue with the VSS/computer. While driving I turned the fogs on and the computer freaked out and shutdown. (was fun going 75 in the middle lane of the 3 lane highway in rush hour. Luckily I was able to get to the side of the road in time).

So the firing of the HID on the fog wiring must dip the power just enough for the VSS to freak.


* I believe the solution is to get a HID relay harness. Off to ebay I go :)
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The stock harness from BRP is supposed to be $99. I believe my Spyder already has this, as the dealer that did the foglight install said I had to have this add-on harness in order for them to work. Of course, I found out later that harness is only needed for the HID set up. So, I am hoping that since I already have it everything will be good to go.

Justin, have you had any problems running your fogs on HID?
 
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