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Disc'd by your riding buddies

I gotta try and remember that . . . . .

People always ask, "is it a motorcycle?" and I always respond with, "It's whatever you want it to be!" This lets people stop trying to classify it with some sort of constraining label and instead take it for what it is -- a unique and fun method of transportation!

Elliott, that is a great reply. Perfect! :thumbup:

Tom
 
Roaddog's roadster......

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Well, that explains a lot!

Tom
 
I've been riding Harley's since the early eighties, and can honestly tell you that most of us don't care at all what someone else rides.....The few that do, are usually new to HD ownership.......
:agree:If I cared I wouldn't ride with the :cus:s club sometimes to me it's not what you ride:ani29:as long as you ride :ani29:and were all riding something on here but the :spyder:is still not a bike in my book and yes I have read a Roadster definition before and a pretty sure they neven covered this matter on there early videos but can't remember :cus: anymore. Love the pic that you found of yourself of your first Roadster I still have one in attic:thumbup:
 
Brand snobs vs motorcycle people

I ran into some of that when I went to the local HD place to look for a helmet since my BRP one fell apart two months after I got it. *dealer trying to find who to :cus: to about that* Anyway, when we pulled up in front, the counter help, the salespeople, and the manager all came out and started asking questions. There were a few people standing on the side walk in the HD chaps and the HD vest and the HD boots and the HD sunglasses and HD....and the HD....wouldn't even look at it. Looked everywhere but at the bike and when one made the mistake of making eye contact I just smiled and nodded through the crowd of people. She dead panned and turned her back. My Lady and I just laughed about it. I told her you can tell the difference between the HD snobs and just motorcycle people.

Don't worry what everyone else says, bye it and ryde it like ya stole it.:2thumbs:
 
Not real buddies...

Has anyone else experienced this phenomienon?

The majority seem to have turned on me, Proclaiming that the Spyder is NOT A MOTORCYCLE. Now I know I've read many saying that it is not a motorcycle but I ask you.... What exactly is a motorcycle?

Fella, if that's their attitude...DITCH THEM. They're not real motorcyclists, just deceitful, manipulative conformists. Real motorcyclists don't care WHAT you ride...just that you ride.:f_spider:

Boot them out of your life, and go find some REAL motorcyclists.:2thumbs:
 
Wave Test

I make an effort to give a low wave to every bike I meet and the only riders that I can say will not even acknowledge you are a motorcyclist are the BMWs. Maybe it is a safety thing but HD, GW and sport bikes manage to come up with some type of friendly gesture and still keep it upright. I have people from all walks of life come up and talk to me when I am on the bike. I let 6 - 60 year olds sit on it which I would not even considered on my Victory.

One of my co-workers tried to make fun of me during a high level meeting when a consultant was comparing HD and Vespa brands by calling the Spyder a scooter. When the consultant heard the conversation in the back of the room, he asked if I had the HD and without further explanation I just said "no, that I preferred not to be a sheep" which shut up the co-worker.

You will meet plenty of new friends and honestly don't worry about finding people to ride with because there will be far more days when you are ready to go and they will stay behind because it is too hot, too cold, too wet, too much traffic, too rough of road, too many leaves on the road, etc. etc. etc.
 
I make an effort to give a low wave to every bike I meet and the only riders that I can say will not even acknowledge you are a motorcyclist are the BMWs.
I am pretty shocked at this. Around here, the BMW riders are very friendly. I would be totally flabbergasted at a "one finger salute". I almost always get a wave from a Beemer rider, even if I am not riding one of my BMWs. Around here, the sport bike riders and the Harley posers (not the real Harley riders) seem to be least likely to wave. I will excuse the sport bike guys. Sometimes it is hard to do more than lift a finger when you are leaning forward on your hands and often going like a bat out of Hades. ;) I will say this in defense of many BMW riders. They put on a lot of miles, are generally older, and are very safety conscious. Sometimes it is just not prudent to wave...and you can't see them smile inside a full face helmet. :D Odd how things are different from place to place.
 
I make an effort to give a low wave to every bike I meet and the only riders that I can say will not even acknowledge you are a motorcyclist are the BMWs.
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there are bmw riders that are just as arrogant as some harley riders....i have noticed both....i say forget em...aint worth my time anyway....if i enjoy it, thats all that matters, and i wouldnt hang out with anyone who acts that way, bmw, harley, or jap riders
 
:agree: There are posers in all categories of bikes. But then again, it could be their mind set at the moment. Sometimes I'm pissed off at something and don't wave back. It all just depends...
 
This has been a very interesting discussion. Since I don't have a Spyder yet, I don't really know what to expect as far as acceptance from other riders. But I just can't really imagine being snubbed by any other group of riders here in west Texas. When I'm on my Beemer I wave to any two wheelers and they wave back, no exceptions.

I can imagine getting a little good natured ribbing about going to 3 wheels 'cause I'm too old for 2 wheels and their may be some truth to that. At 71 I can't deny getting old much longer but nothing says that old folks can't have fun, too. And if it gets too serious, then I'll just invite them to come ride 2 wheels in the dirt with me. Most of my riding buddies quit riding dirt 20 years ago. I don't really care how many wheels you ride as long as you're having fun.

Cotton
 
My favorite are the jap cruiser riders that need to wear or fly the largest American flag they can find...hahaha


I don't know any Japaneese cruisers personally, but I'm sure they are nice guys. I however do ride a Yamaha and very much an American.

(my father was at Pearl Harbor, Korea & Veitnam...USN 1941-1974. In his last years, he would drive nothing but a Toyota)
 
When I rode my Yamaha TMAX, I got a lot of strange reactions (similar to the Spyder) because the bike looks like a standard from the front, a scooter from the side, and a sportbike from the back. I noticed a few things on how different bikers wave:




Sportbike wave -- lift up a few fingers from the clutch and scream around a curve going 30 mph over the speed limit. They're too afraid of losing control as they hang on for dear life, so they can only afford a few fingers for the wave

Hog wave -- extend your arm down and away. Everything must be "low riding" with them, so why not their wave, too? Besides -- give them a break, their arms are too tired raise after gripping their ape hangers for hours on end

BMW / FJR / Concours wave -- a simple nod. These riders are serious bikers who aren't going to get distracted from their travels. Definitely the best group to go on a ride with because they'll always stay serious, safe, and fast (but not dangerously fast!)

Vespa wave -- nonexistent. They're too busy looking in their mirrors trying to avoid getting run over
(note -- not applicable to 250/300cc Vespas. These riders, however, are never on the road since they're always waiting for Piaggio to ship them parts from Italy, so they don't even have a wave).
 
My favorite are the jap cruiser riders that need to wear or fly the largest American flag they can find...hahaha
My Spyders stablemates are Honda Valkyries but then again they were made in America with more american made parts than most so called american made bikes so I guess your not talking about me.
 
NOT a Motorcycle

..At least that's my official view. Reason being, I work at an exclusive Golf club and motorcycles are not allowed as per the covenants written. :gaah: This was pointed out to me by the secretary, who happens to ride a Harley, but is not allowed to bring it to work. I purchased my Spyder as I thought it would be fun to ryde to work, as it's a scenic drive to the job.

So I drove it in, and since I have the stock exhaust, it's real quiet. I showed it to the GM, showed him it had 2 wheels in front like a car, brakes like a car, Power steering like a car, Has a reverse like a car, and in SC I don't need a Motorcycle permit. So far it hasnt been an issue:clap:
Interestingly enough, when I went to file a report to NHTSA (I think those are the right letters) about my :spyder2: going into limp mode on the freeway at 75mph, I went to motorcycles on the on line form but it wasn't there. I found it listed under Automobiles.

So, I 'm careful not to call it a motorcyle at work- I just call it my Spyder.
The GM calls it a buggy, which I get a chuckle out of. After all it seems to work on two levels- A :f_spider: is a bug to me, and after the steering and DPS issue, I think it might be a little "buggy".:joke:

Call it what you want, I just love to ryde it.:doorag:
 
I don't know any Japaneese cruisers personally, but I'm sure they are nice guys. I however do ride a Yamaha and very much an American.

(my father was at Pearl Harbor, Korea & Veitnam...USN 1941-1974. In his last years, he would drive nothing but a Toyota)
i dont think he is saying they are not nice...he is just pointin out the irony...i have never had a harley or bmw...all jap so far with the exception of the spyder....but i do see the irony
 
When I rode my Yamaha TMAX, I got a lot of strange reactions (similar to the Spyder) because the bike looks like a standard from the front, a scooter from the side, and a sportbike from the back. I noticed a few things on how different bikers wave:




Sportbike wave -- lift up a few fingers from the clutch and scream around a curve going 30 mph over the speed limit. They're too afraid of losing control as they hang on for dear life, so they can only afford a few fingers for the wave

Hog wave -- extend your arm down and away. Everything must be "low riding" with them, so why not their wave, too? Besides -- give them a break, their arms are too tired raise after gripping their ape hangers for hours on end

BMW / FJR / Concours wave -- a simple nod. These riders are serious bikers who aren't going to get distracted from their travels. Definitely the best group to go on a ride with because they'll always stay serious, safe, and fast (but not dangerously fast!)

Vespa wave -- nonexistent. They're too busy looking in their mirrors trying to avoid getting run over
(note -- not applicable to 250/300cc Vespas. These riders, however, are never on the road since they're always waiting for Piaggio to ship them parts from Italy, so they don't even have a wave).
:roflblack:
 
When I rode my Yamaha TMAX, I got a lot of strange reactions (similar to the Spyder) because the bike looks like a standard from the front, a scooter from the side, and a sportbike from the back. I noticed a few things on how different bikers wave:

Sportbike wave -- lift up a few fingers from the clutch and scream around a curve going 30 mph over the speed limit. They're too afraid of losing control as they hang on for dear life, so they can only afford a few fingers for the wave

Hog wave -- extend your arm down and away. Everything must be "low riding" with them, so why not their wave, too? Besides -- give them a break, their arms are too tired raise after gripping their ape hangers for hours on end

BMW / FJR / Concours wave -- a simple nod. These riders are serious bikers who aren't going to get distracted from their travels. Definitely the best group to go on a ride with because they'll always stay serious, safe, and fast (but not dangerously fast!)

Vespa wave -- nonexistent. They're too busy looking in their mirrors trying to avoid getting run over
(note -- not applicable to 250/300cc Vespas. These riders, however, are never on the road since they're always waiting for Piaggio to ship them parts from Italy, so they don't even have a wave).
:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: So true! Very good analysis. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: I use every one of these at some time or another. Guess I have some kind of identity crisis. Probably brought on from trying to decide which of the 24 motorcycles to take for the day......and then trying to remember which one I am riding...and which side the brake is on. :D One notable exception, I went to the low wave as standard after I started riding bikes with fairings. Your hand can't be seen with less than full arm extension if you don't stick it downward. If you raise it above the fairing the wind tries to rip it off and you look like a dork waving goodbye as his girlfriend leaves on the train. :joke:
 
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