I agree with Lamont

[truck 85]

this site sold me

I had been looking at the sypder for a long time when i ran across this site. After following it for a three months or so and lising to all the fun your were having and all the knowledge there was here i had to buy as has been said here before this site is the best sales tool for the spyder. With all the fun stories and the knolage to fix and modife you ryde. this is the place that gave me the confidnce to buy. For that i want to thank you all.

 

[BajaRon]

As much as I LOVE this site its become nothing but a headache to come to. SHUT IT DOWN until the spyderworld is happy again.

Some threads can be a "headache" depending on your perspective but to say they are all negative seems a bit over the top to me.

You can pick and choose the threads you read and avoid the "Headaches" if you like.

I am confused about your suggestion that Lamont shut this site down "Until the spyderworld is happy again". If the site is down, how will he or anyone else know when the spyderworld gets happy?

I think the board goes through ups and downs just like anything else. Through it all each of us as individuals can keep a positive (or negative) attitude as we so choose.

If you're looking for a place where we can all pretend the Spyder is a perfect machine I suppose you've come to the wrong place.

If you're looking for some fun, some fellowship, some great advise and maybe a heavy dose of reality thrown in from time to time then I'd say this is it.

As for me, I like it here, warts and all. Maybe if I were perfect I would have something to gripe about...but no worries there! hyea:

 

[SSG Bean]

:dontknow: I've been conditioned to thank that if you see a problem, don't complain if you can't offer suggestions and be part of the solution. I don't see how another negative post helps this situation. If you must leave; happy trails. I'm like the many who appreciate the candor of the site. I have yet to have a single problem with my Spyder, and still love to ride it. Being aware of the problems also helps me be more observant and more prepared in the event something does arise. Unfortunately, the world isn't all rainbows and kittens, but for the most part, I do believe there is more positive than negative within this site. Thanks to all who contribute, and especially to Lamont for facilitating our learning and sharing all things Spyder.

As much as I LOVE this site its become nothing but a headache to come to. SHUT IT DOWN until the spyderworld is happy again. Granted there are issues, but all this negativity SUCKS. Theres allot of nice people here and I am glad for the conversations and learning experiences but..........................I am out

thanks to all that helped me in the past and thanks to Lamont most of all for all his hard work.

maybe I will "stop by" in the spring

peace out............

 

[boborgera]

NEGATIVITY

As much as I LOVE this site its become nothing but a headache to come to. SHUT IT DOWN until the spyderworld is happy again. Granted there are issues, but all this negativity SUCKS. Theres allot of nice people here and I am glad for the conversations and learning experiences but..........................I am out

thanks to all that helped me in the past and thanks to Lamont most of all for all his hard work.

maybe I will "stop by" in the spring

peace out............

If we had Auto forums like this back in the 70's, Maybe the American auto co's would have heard the the negativty and fixed the junk they were making . And then the Japanese would not have gotten such a foot hold in the American market.hyea:

 

[Firefly]

As much as I LOVE this site its become nothing but a headache to come to. SHUT IT DOWN until the spyderworld is happy again. Granted there are issues, but all this negativity SUCKS. Theres allot of nice people here and I am glad for the conversations and learning experiences but..........................I am out

thanks to all that helped me in the past and thanks to Lamont most of all for all his hard work.

maybe I will "stop by" in the spring

peace out............

No way dude---- it should stay up.

Taking it down when things seem bad would be disingenuous.

If your favorite sports team loses some games do you stop watching them?

Need to have the good and bad shared --- although I do agree some have made this become a Spyder Bash--- and not a good one.

To steal a line from the HD ads this year....... Screw it---- let's RIDE !

 

[M2Wild]

If you close down you will loose people, its just commen sence. People need to vent and know that they are not alone and go senile.

Two sides to every coin. Good and bad comes together. I learned a lot from all the problems I read on this site. It allows me to be proactive and check for problem(s) before it sneaks up on me.

 

[Recluze]

Wow I missed something

So I had a computer crash for a week and come back to talk of this site shutting down. I am so glad to hear that it is not shutting down since this site has probably kept me on my Spyder this long and I truly love riding it.

I bought one of the first Spyders knowing that there would be problems. It is not clear to me why anyone would think otherwise but then everyone's expectations are different. I look at my Spyder as a rather inexpensive toy. I have gotten my money's worth out of it time and time again relative to other BRP toys I own. And I am just getting started. Best money I have spent in a while.

I had INTERMITTENT power steering issues that probably resulted in the first software update. I almost feel like apologizing about that since the update has caused so many additional problems. But the intermittent power steering would have either hurt me or caused me to get rid of the bike.

After reading this blog for many months I came to the conclusion that the next time my power steering acts up I am going to pull the fuse and disable it forever. I met a guy in Hollywood that had driven across country without power steering and he did not know he did not have it until I pointed it out to him. At that time I figured there were a lot of people without power steering and they were probably better off.

So now I come back and it seems that everyone is upset that they are learning that their power steering never worked? I guess I can understand that you all want all the things you paid for to work. So do I. What I can't understand is why everyone is up in arms about it. What did I miss?

 

[slather1]

Thank you Lamont. Both for the site and not shutting it down. I like the Spyder as the dust on my motorcycles shows they get too much garage time. Do not post frequently but have learned much from this site. When you have a machine that will not steer or handle well enough that you feel confident taking it on the road that is a major issue that needs resolved. Not negativity but a cry for help. Thanks again Lamont.

 

[Stroke1]

Lamont I've never had the pleasure to meet you but..

You seem like a class guy.:2thumbs: I own 4 harleys I ride. Another is just a collector job (orginal 1949 Harley), several ATV's, 1 utra-lite, and now 2 2009 spyders not that I'm bragging.pps: But with every type of toy I own, I belong to a web forum and in most cases a club. You've done a good job building this web site. And the members have made it better. Sure it has a few "bugs" :spyder2:but nothing really bad.
I have learned alot about the spyder that everyone either loves or hates. I for one have been trying to fix (personalize) two of them one is my wife's (although it is Red its a Lemon and should have been Yellow) and Mine a Yellow, but far cry from a lemon..it runs fine. Both were bought at the same place and both are SE-5's. but other than that the are totally different in performance.
I hope you never :dontknow:decide to shut this site down. As more and more dealers and part manufacturers are reading it. So our posts are starting to work. weither they are negative, ( darn junk toy ,bad dealers to watch out for, and over priced stuff OR a post to show off someones vehicle or simple tricks to improve the performance. or other How to's.
I for one would like to have a "Rotten forum" :chat:someplace owners could post notes about recalls, rotten dealers, poor service, over priced stuff, etc. but no posts about other members, that we don't need.. :lecturef_smilie:

Hopefully this would limit the ragging on the other forums, If you don't like it don't read it.. and....If you going to have advertisement from manufactures, put them in one area and stay neutral about them don't sing their praise,:bowdown: let us do that or tell it like we find them. :gaah:

Like any post on any forum: this is just : IMHO
and thanks for the fine forum:2thumbs:

 

[brutus450]

So, I see I have made my point perfectly clear as allot of POSITIVE response has been made to this post. There is a HUGE diferrence between negativity and the "good, bad and the ugly". The negativity I am referring to is when people are saying "the spyder is on its way out", "BRP doesnt care about a solution", "BRP test riders knew the problems and BRP sent it to productions anyways". As I am interested in, like all have said here, is that legitimate problems are discussed and how problems are solved. Everyone who posted to this basically said the same thing and I agree with the same philosophy. I dont want the site to shut down but I proved the point that everyone likes to read issues good and bad. It's the slamming that needs to stop. Even Lamont was to the point of considering it....right? But like he said above, lets move on, stop slamming, stay positive and lets look for solutions.

As one other person said above, if you dont like it - leave it. Same goes with the Spyder - if you have so many problems and hate BRP and dont trust they will find a solution - then sell it and be done. I am certain they are looking for solutions to all the problems. I understand people are frustrated and rightfully so, but I am sure BRP is frustrated too.

Beleive me, I appreciate the information on this site just as much as anyone and will continue to do so.

I am glad I started the post the way I did - look back at it and see how it brought people back together after the same solution - and all without bashing ( well except bashin me a bit) lmao

Like I said before I love this site and I thank Lamont for all the hard work in the past and in the future.

Constructive criticism not just criticism.

thanks for reading - I appreciate all of your input

 

[fred]

i need the good,the bad and the ugly... keep it coming.. better to be informed than not

thanks lamont and everyone

but as the seasons pass, the Spyder is the garage and probably parked til spring..

time to think of my next mod...hummm ?...

best to everyone and to those who can still ride.. be safe and pass on your stories

 

[Smylinacha]

I think because I played a part in the negativity maybe my name shouldn't be Smylinacha anymore. Maybe Yellinacha cuz I did alot of it. I do feel more confident that BRP is looking into this though and I think if it weren't for some of us getting squirrly over things, nothing would have happened to get BRP to notice there is something wrong. But I do apologize if I offended anyone personally.

 

[ataDude]

... Maybe Yellinacha...

:roflblack:

 

[vt228]

lamonster

Thank you so much you all out there stick with it we nead a home to come to and this is the sight we all call home .We nead this place so we can see new paint jobs , add on's ,new items we can put on and see what they look like on :spyder:and see whats ne out there .
magicman and lamonster are great for us and the things they put on and sell and step bye step on how to put on things point A to point B how to get more out of your ryde.we love this sight and people we meet on or in person thank you god bless you all ( MY New FAMILY ALWAYS VT228 )

 

[mxz600]

No way dude---- it should stay up.

Taking it down when things seem bad would be disingenuous.

If your favorite sports team loses some games do you stop watching them?

Need to have the good and bad shared --- although I do agree some have made this become a Spyder Bash--- and not a good one.

To steal a line from the HD ads this year....... Screw it---- let's RIDE !

:agree: I am a Detroit Lions fan. Trust me I can put up with a lot of bad :gaah: & ugly :yikes:

 

[Smylinacha]

Ya think I can ask Lamonster to put that under my Screen Name?:2thumbs:

:roflblack:

 

[draboo]

Ya think I can ask Lamonster to put that under my Screen Name?:2thumbs:

Smylinatcha..
who is Yellinatcha!

LOL!

 

[Way2Fast]

I think because I played a part in the negativity maybe my name shouldn't be Smylinacha anymore. Maybe Yellinacha cuz I did alot of it. I do feel more confident that BRP is looking into this though and I think if it weren't for some of us getting squirrly over things, nothing would have happened to get BRP to notice there is something wrong. But I do apologize if I offended anyone personally.

No need to apologize for feeling the way you do and posting about it. From the posts on this site, it appears that every day more and more Spyder owners are experiencing the steering problems first hand. Those who didn't have the recalls done, those who did and those who's power steering never worked or was disconnected....are experiencing steering issues that are down right dangerous. This forum only represents a fraction of the Spyder owners. How many uninformed people have suffered injuries from Steering Gone Wild? We will never know. You and every other Spyder owner has the right (and obligation ?) to yell and make EVERYONE aware of the potential issues they may someday face. The current "fixes" don't work !!!!

 

[Smylinacha]

And I look just like your avatar when I get mad! My hair looks just like that when it's standing up on end!:thumbup:

Smylinatcha..
who is Yellinatcha!

LOL!

 

[FANG]

Not sure Shutting Down the Site is the answer. If I get tired of a thread or the direction it is going I just ignore it. There has been some negativity here related to the steering issues and the updates but this is the most inforamative site when it comes to our rydes.

Growing pains are something that we all experience. I look at as the :f_spider: is just in the terrible 2's.

As much as I LOVE this site its become nothing but a headache to come to. SHUT IT DOWN until the spyderworld is happy again. Granted there are issues, but all this negativity SUCKS. Theres allot of nice people here and I am glad for the conversations and learning experiences but..........................I am out

thanks to all that helped me in the past and thanks to Lamont most of all for all his hard work.

maybe I will "stop by" in the spring

peace out............