Strong gasoline smell after riding - is this common? Any fix?

[Mahaflac]

Got this response from BRP. I think it is telling me they will do the repairs once I provide the information included in the email.

Is this the typical email when wanting these panels replaced.

[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Good day Mr. Mahaffey,

Thank you for taking the time to contact BRP with your request.

We will be pleased to make the owner's modification for your unit. In order to do so, we simply need the following information:

- Proof of purchase or of ownership (bill of sales*, title or registration)
- Your complete mailing address and phone number
- The serial number of the vehicle

* Please note that the bill of sales can be an informal document but must include the seller and the buyer's signatures together with the unit's serial number.

You can reply to this email with the attached documents and we will gladly confirm the changes with you once completed.

Should you have any other questions or comments, please feel free to contact us by replying to this email or you can call us at 1-888-272-9222.

Once again, thank you for contacting BRP.

Warm Regards,
Stephanie H.
Customer Service Representative

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[Mahaflac]

Received this also

[FONT=&quot]Good day Mr. Mahaffey,

Thank you for taking the time to contact BRP.

Further to your request, after carefully researching your inquiry, we recommend you contact your local BRP dealership since they will need to contact the parts, warranty or technical department to provide you with an answer to your question.

Please note that in order to provide its consumers premium quality technical support, BRP ensures that its dealers are technically trained and are also provided with a dealer dedicated technical support team, to answer any and all specific diagnostic, warranty, parts and repair questions. These lines are reserved for the dealers only.

Your dealer will need your unit's serial number to do the research. Please mention any modifications made to the unit as well.

To find a dealership in your area, please visit our website at: www.brp.com.
You can click on the ''find a dealer'' tab on the top right corner of the screen. You must select your country at the bottom of the page. Please enter you city or zip code in order to see the closest dealers. You can then click on the logo of the different dealership to get their contact information.

Should you have any other questions or comments, please feel free to contact us by replying to this email or call us at 1-888-272-9222.

Once again, thank you for contacting BRP.

Warm Regards,
Stephanie H.
Customer Service Representative

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[GearHd]

Sounds legit to me, do as they say and make sure you tell the dealer that you can really feel the heat.

I have a 14 ST-L and still had the gas fume smell when parked in the garage. I had the EVAP canister replaced under warranty and when I got it home I made the vent line from the tank to the canister go way up near the handlebars so it would be impossible for fuel to get into the new canister. Been fine ever since.

 

[loisk]

All sounds very positive.
Dont forget to give the dealer the part numbers! And maybe "educate" them a little...
If your dealer doesn't get with the program, let us all know
Fingers crossed

From other posts, I thought brp just sent the kits to the dealer,,,

 

[Mahaflac]

Update:

So, those of you who have updated the side panels. Is the next step to contact my service department so they can get a hold of BRP warranty and service department to request the updated side panels?

 

[Mahaflac]

So I am having my doubts that this will get done. I have contacted my service shop and the shop of the dealership that I bought the spyder from. Neither of them know anything about the good will fix. I have tried explaining the resolve and neither shop give me much hope of receiving the answer I am looking for.

 

[Explorer]

Several of us have told you:
1. BRP will do it for you, at no cost to you.
2. Many owners have had it done.
3. You will have to educate your dealer. Most of them know much less about Spyders than the people here.
4. We have recommended that you use the search engine on this forum, and read other owners experience getting the new panels installed.
5. Do not let an uninformed dealer stop you.

1. Do the research.
2. Print out what you find.
3. Tactfully show it to your dealer. EDUCATE HIM/HER!
4. OR you can disregard the advice and information that these good people have given, take NO from your uninformed dealer, and continue to boil gas in your tank, and COOK your legs this summer.

Good luck,
Roger

 

[loisk]

Dodgy

Brp promised the nhtsb at the time of the rt recall that no recall was needed for the st due to this goodwill fix.

Lots of people now have these panels.

Back to brp care - be insistent and tell them you need the goodwill fix as they promised government transport dept

Maybe try the other dealer someone mentioned above?

It really shouldnt be this hard - brp customer service is the single biggest reason spyders haven't made a bigger market impact!

 

[Rogue Hawk]

 

[Mahaflac]

Explorer, thank you for your direct approach. I wanted to give you an update. I considered everyone’s advice on this subject. I am new to BRP and have not been really sure about how to go about getting this done. Explorer, I considered all the advice listed. I did my research and went to my local dealer armed with knowledge. They were very helpful and vowed to help me get this done. After them dealing with BRP for several days they have declined to replace the panels. The bike is no longer under warranty, and they refuse to replace them.

I am not sure I have much recourse at this point other than documentation.

 

[BajaRon]

Explorer, thank you for your direct approach. I wanted to give you an update. I considered everyone’s advice on this subject. I am new to BRP and have not been really sure about how to go about getting this done. Explorer, I considered all the advice listed. I did my research and went to my local dealer armed with knowledge. They were very helpful and vowed to help me get this done. After them dealing with BRP for several days they have declined to replace the panels. The bike is no longer under warranty, and they refuse to replace them.

I am not sure I have much recourse at this point other than documentation.

You still have the best option at your disposal.

As long as you are sure it is not a fuel leak somewhere in the system. The panels are not your problem.

It's your evap canister. If the evap canister were working properly (not extremely common). There would be no gasoline fumes to smell, and you wouldn't be here beating your head against the BRP brick wall. (Another subject altogether!)

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for more ventilation. But that's like wishing for more wind when you have a natural gas line break. Sure, a stiff breeze will keep the explosion hazard low. But the real solution is to fix the leak!

That is why I highly recommend the cheap, easy, and permanent solution. The one and only guaranteed way to dispel this demon forever. The canister-ectomy.

No tedious and doubtful outcome documentation need be prepared.

So, why prepare for a potential disaster when you can banish the issue altogether!

Good luck!

 

[crazycanuck]

Gas Gaps will certainly do it! :roflblack:

A great Engineering marvel :shocked:

 

[Explorer]

Explorer, thank you for your direct approach. I wanted to give you an update. I considered everyone’s advice on this subject. I am new to BRP and have not been really sure about how to go about getting this done. Explorer, i considered all the advice listed. I did my research and went to my local dealer armed with knowledge. They were very helpful and vowed to help me get this done. After them dealing with BRP for several days they have declined to replace the panels. The bike is no longer under warranty and they refuse to replace them.

I am am not sure I have much recourse at this point other than documentation.

Thank you very much for the update. I am in shock, and feel your pain. At this point, I would try to run it by another dealer, and or, contact BRP Care, and hope for a different person on the other end. In either case stress the heat that you are suffering, the dangerous boiling gas and fumes, and the fact that they have already admitted that there is a problem, by making the change for others.
Again, thank you for the very civil update to my not too polite suggestions.
Roger

 

[Mahaflac]

Is there a resource on this site that shows me how to do a Canister-ectomy or is it something that my dealer will have to do. I will do some research on this. Thanks for any help.

 

[Mahaflac]

Explorer, I am a long way from being done with this. I do not take much offense to what people have to say and how they say it. As a high school basketball coach, I am long since past that. I try to never read anything digital and give it tone or try to figure a reason for the response. It was direct and nothing more. I look at the message and proceed from there. You made a lot of sense, and I took your advice. You were right. I took a long ride this past weekend and got pretty toasty in 70 degree weather (in addition to the smell of gas). I have called BRP and got what many are calling the typical BRP generic response, and they referred me back to my dealer. My dealer has been great thus far. When I just called them, they were on the phone with BRP trying to escalate the case. Each “no” is one more source of documentation. I am very appreciative for help and advice.

Kind regards

 

[PistonBlown]

Is there a resource on this site that shows me how to do a Canister-ectomy or is it something that my dealer will have to do. I will do some research on this. Thanks for any help.

See the two links to other threads in my earlier post (#2 in this thread)

In the second one, from post #12 onwards there are some extra pictures to help you with the process and Post #25 lists the parts required which are cheap and can be got from any auto shop.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Is there a resource on this site that shows me how to do it or is it something that my dealer will have to do. I will do some research on this. Thanks for any help.

Go to my Bio page and look at the new Album I have which explains how I fixed this problem (for two different V-twins) and the Canister still functions the way BRP hoped it would, but with NO FUMES now! Mike :thumbup:

 

[UtahPete]

BLUEKNIGHT911 refered you to his album -
Here it is;

How to eliminate the smell of gas when you come in from a ryde or just filled up. Hose #1. is the hose from the gas tank to the canister (#3), you will need a plastic "T" fitting; cut hose #1 and attach to the " T" as shown; then attach the other cut end on to the upper part of the "T" (it still connects to the Cannister as before). You need to add a NEW hose to the down end of the "T"; this should reach to at least the bottom part of the frame AWAY from any HEAT source. Any gas overflow for any reason will NOT get into the canister. Eventually any gas in the canister now will evaporate

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/album.php?albumid=4718&attachmentid=159601

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=159601&thumb=1&d=1523049660

 

[Alien Leg]

I have a 2015 RT-S SE6 with just over 43,255 miles on it. Recently I have been smelling gas fume on the 1st cranking of it. From then on anytime I crank it I do not smell gas fumes. Even when the Spyder has been sitting for 4-5 hours at work. I do not smell anything after shutdown or when it's just sitting in the garage the next day only on 1st crank. Now I'm filling up the tank the same way since I bought it new in July of 2015. Never smelled it before. Doc Humphreys suggested I do wide open throttle and I tried it this afternoon. I cranked it 3 times with throttle being held wide open and on 4th crank I did it normally and as far as I could tell I smelled no gas fumes. I will confirm this again tomorrow morning. Have not seen any codes showing on the display and all services have been done. I do plan to have it hooked up to BUDS system on Friday May 31, 2018 at dealership in Winston Salem, NC. Wondering if maybe its purge valve sticking. Other than an idle issue a couple of times where it was close to dying out, it runs fine.

 

[AggieR]

My wife, owner and rider, and I took a 200 mile ride on Saturday. The weather and temperatures where low 60’s to mid 70’s before breakfast around 9:30 AM. After breakfast it was 85 to 90. We had 50 or so miles to home.

When we stopped for breakfast the bike was not giving off any strong odors, no drips and nothing out of normal operation.

When Dawn backed into garage and shut it off the smell of gasoline (or oil not sure which) was very strong.

Been in the garage for over 24 hours nothing on floor under bike. Checked oil and it was good. Dawn did not spill or overfill gasoline.

New to The Spyder learning how to do some of maintenance and modifications. Do not have any idea where to begin since no visible leaks or signs of engine burning oil.

2012 Spyder RT

Thanks for reading.