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F3 Vibration

I've been keeping quiet on this issue for a while but now boredom and lack of access to my Spyder are forcing me to comment
(or it may be the drugs I'm on!).
I had the belt induced vibration at around 60-70 mph but I ride hard and I noticed at around 5500 miles it was no longer apparent.
Last time I rode it......last month, I made a determined effort to get the vibration to show itself and it didn't.
So I put this down to the belt getting more supple with use. We've all seen how inflexible an alternator belt is on a car when new and how they
are after several thousand miles; well I'm thinking that a similar thing affects the Spyder belt.
 
2016 F3 Limited

I have belt vibration in 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th gear. It seemed to get worse as we rode yesterday. I noticed a lot more with a passenger than when I drove it home with no passenger. It appears to be mainly from 3600 to 4100 rpm's in the above mentioned gears. Annoying it is, vibrates the bars, mirrors, seat and footboards.
 
Hi

sorry to say that the F3 has a defect from the factory and BRP is doing little to address it. Now many will attack me for saying and will excuse away the defect.... No bike should have a issue that makes it uncomfortable to ride in a speed range were Mose highway riding is done.

the only fix is a belt tensioner... Sadly after you spend 20k+ on your new bike you have to spend another 300.00 to make it comfortable to ride....

mark

Ours was noticeable at first, especially two up, but as the miles have increased it has become less noticeable.

What's more, fitting an Elka shock reduced the effect because the back sits up higher, which puts less tension on the belt. I wouldn't be surprised if it keeps on reducing in severity and you will be proved wrong once again. I hope you don't mind... ;-)
 
Ours was noticeable at first, especially two up, but as the miles have increased it has become less noticeable.

What's more, fitting an Elka shock reduced the effect because the back sits up higher, which puts less tension on the belt. I wouldn't be surprised if it keeps on reducing in severity and you will be proved wrong once again. I hope you don't mind... ;-)

Funny you should mention it Trevor. I had the vibration but I also put an Elka on haven't noticed it since. In fact I had totally forgotten about it :yes:
 
Engine vibration.

It's belt vibration not engine vibration!!!! That i'M POSITIVE Horrible from 105km/h to 115km/h then goes away.
If it's the belt causing the vibration, why can I feel it parked in Neutral & reving the engine to 3200--3800 rpm??? I personally believe the belt tensioner reduces some of engine vibration that's transfered via the belt---on my F3's--the belt tensioner reduces the vibration at approx 50%, it's still there--just less noticeable....

By the way--most sport bike engines also have an engine vibration at certain rpm's & the sport bikes use a chain drive.:yikes:
Darrell
 
Update

If it's the belt causing the vibration, why can I feel it parked in Neutral & reving the engine to 3200--3800 rpm??? I personally believe the belt tensioner reduces some of engine vibration that's transfered via the belt---on my F3's--the belt tensioner reduces the vibration at approx 50%, it's still there--just less noticeable....

By the way--most sport bike engines also have an engine vibration at certain rpm's & the sport bikes use a chain drive.:yikes:
Darrell


Before I even read this, I started it up and in neutral slowly increased RPM's to the 3600 to 4000 rpm level and I had the exact same vibrations I did when riding. So my issue is not the belt.
 
Vibration

So, I took my new F3 on it's first long ride yesterday which entailed some freeway driving. Turns out I have the belt harmonics between 67 mph and 72 mph. Has anyone found a solution to this issue, or has anyone had any success with a resolution through Can Am. :ani29:

My f3 vibrated so bad at those speeds that it was ruining my biking experience. BRP top tech and my dealer told me nothing wrong....it was my imagination.. Capt Jim sent me Smooth-SPYDER belt tensioner stopped the problem.

Ron Boyles
 
Belt Tensionerj

Sorry,
To hear you have the vibration issue, too. I posted about it in Feb. just after I got the bike. Very frustrating. Dealer double checked the belt alignment
and tension but it was right on spec. so I still have the vibration. BRP said it was due to the length of the belt. The guy I talked with said not to add a belt tensioner because the added tension could cause other issues in the long run...
Hope you have better luck, Please keep me posted if you find a fix.
thanks.
DJ

Baloney, Smooth SPYDER will stop vibration. Did on my 2 RT's and my F3

Ron
 
The F3 has an engineering defect.... Mother BRP should have to resolve it!

Mark

This is not just directed at you but everyone with this issue: you all KNEW it was a first gen product. Same engine, tried and proven, but on a completely different platform. Every first gen release will have bugs. You're experiencing the bugs. Yes a company "should" fix problems with their products. But what's easier: buying a first gen product and expecting and waiting for a company to fix the bugs on a release or waiting for a second gen release when a lot, if not all, of the bugs have been worked out? At some point the consumer has to take some responsibility in all of this. Hindsight being what it is, maybe waiting a model year or so was the way to go.

First gen products, whether they are $25 toasters or $25,000 motorcycles, are really just beta releases. You can only test a product so much before it needs to be released and see how it holds up in day to day use. Besides, this is business. Models that have a lot of money and resources pumped into them need to be sold to recoup part of their investment. Then they fix all the bugs and more and more are sold bringing the company into the black for a particular model. I hate to break it to everyone but companies couldn't care less about your individual customer experience. There will be enough people jumping on their product and loving it that the first gen, beta owners' complaints and issues will not even make a dent in their popularity, especially given how strong the F3's second gen release and variants seem to be. It is a huge winner for BRP so that makes righting the first gen bugs really low on their 'to-do' list. To them you could always trade it in and pick up a new, greatly improved machine. This is where being a smart consumer comes into play. 'Caveat emptor'... It's naive to think that a company owes anyone anything. Companies owe it to their shareholders to turn viable and sustained profits. Good companies can do both: please shareholders and customers alike. BRP is a good company because look how at how many products they produce and how many happy customers they have. We all have choices as to the products we want to buy. Sometimes, and this is really hard to admit, we make the wrong one.

i just read about this a lot here and it seems a lot of fist pounding and yelling at the sky because it's raining, when a simpler solution would be to get an umbrella or stay inside until it stops. However it happens, I hope you all find a way to make peace with these issues and ride safe.
 
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Wow, never thought much about buying a first generation bike or car or boat for that matter.

I bought it after a test ride because it didn't hurt my back as much as riding my Harley or my v-star 1300 did.

That was my only thought, ride the F3 or stop riding all together. With that in mind, it was still the right thing for me, I put 12,000 miles on in the first year.

Now,I am putting some money into it to make it better for me personally.
I put on Shad saddlebags for conveinance and have ordered shocks from
Race Tech to make the ride feel better. The vibration is annoying but I still
love riding my F3S. To each their own....
 
Baker Built

Rode up to the Baker Built Folks place. A nice country ride in western Ohio. They installed their belt stabilizer and luggage rack While I took a ride on their F3 with their air wings attached, and the office gal watched my dog (he rides with me often). Stabilizer solved the problem. Nice folks-no charge for the installation work, by the way.
 
Belt Stabilizer

Rode up to the Baker Built Folks place. A nice country ride in western Ohio. They installed their belt stabilizer and luggage rack While I took a ride on their F3 with their air wings attached, and the office gal watched my dog (he rides with me often). Stabilizer solved the problem. Nice folks-no charge for the installation work, by the way.
Just installed the Baker Built Belt Stabilizer and it has eliminated the dreaded vibration. Watched their video and the Install was easy. Very happy.
 
Rode up to the Baker Built Folks place. A nice country ride in western Ohio. They installed their belt stabilizer and luggage rack While I took a ride on their F3 with their air wings attached, and the office gal watched my dog (he rides with me often). Stabilizer solved the problem. Nice folks-no charge for the installation work, by the way.

Do you have the passenger BRP backrest on? Wondering about the fit of the luggage rack with the passenger back rest. :dontknow: Tom :spyder:
 
Just bought a new 2016 F3T with audio last Saturday. Got about 400 KM on it and havent felt it yet. Ill try reproducing the Vibration you guys are talking about at the RPM mentioned. Ill post again after testing..



Daniel...
 
This is not just directed at you but everyone with this issue: you all KNEW it was a first gen product. Same engine, tried and proven, but on a completely different platform. Every first gen release will have bugs. You're experiencing the bugs. Yes a company "should" fix problems with their products. But what's easier: buying a first gen product and expecting and waiting for a company to fix the bugs on a release or waiting for a second gen release when a lot, if not all, of the bugs have been worked out? At some point the consumer has to take some responsibility in all of this. Hindsight being what it is, maybe waiting a model year or so was the way to go.

First gen products, whether they are $25 toasters or $25,000 motorcycles, are really just beta releases. You can only test a product so much before it needs to be released and see how it holds up in day to day use. Besides, this is business. Models that have a lot of money and resources pumped into them need to be sold to recoup part of their investment. Then they fix all the bugs and more and more are sold bringing the company into the black for a particular model. I hate to break it to everyone but companies couldn't care less about your individual customer experience. There will be enough people jumping on their product and loving it that the first gen, beta owners' complaints and issues will not even make a dent in their popularity, especially given how strong the F3's second gen release and variants seem to be. It is a huge winner for BRP so that makes righting the first gen bugs really low on their 'to-do' list. To them you could always trade it in and pick up a new, greatly improved machine. This is where being a smart consumer comes into play. 'Caveat emptor'... It's naive to think that a company owes anyone anything. Companies owe it to their shareholders to turn viable and sustained profits. Good companies can do both: please shareholders and customers alike. BRP is a good company because look how at how many products they produce and how many happy customers they have. We all have choices as to the products we want to buy. Sometimes, and this is really hard to admit, we make the wrong one.

i just read about this a lot here and it seems a lot of fist pounding and yelling at the sky because it's raining, when a simpler solution would be to get an umbrella or stay inside until it stops. However it happens, I hope you all find a way to make peace with these issues and ride safe.


There has been some reports that owners are feeling the vibration on the F3 2016's

To fix - rock the throttle when you feel the vibration coming on, once past it ... your good. Takes about 1/2 second. Come on people!!!
 
There has been some reports that owners are feeling the vibration on the F3 2016's

To fix - rock the throttle when you feel the vibration coming on, once past it ... your good. Takes about 1/2 second. Come on people!!!

Excellent point. This vibration thing is just about as common as buffeting complaints. I start to think that some people are better off in cars. Convertibles might be an issue though. :roflblack:
 
Excellent point. This vibration thing is just about as common as buffeting complaints. I start to think that some people are better off in cars. Convertibles might be an issue though. :roflblack:
Ya' Think?!?! "It vibrates, its to hot, I get to much wind on me, it smells like gas/exhaust, my tires wear out to fast, the clutch is to hard to pull, my fuel mileage is poor" etc etc etc...[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji85] [emoji85]

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