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Torque is a good thing IMO. A little more couldn't hurt anything as long as you don't go crazy with all kinds of other mods. Hell the Harleys have more Torgue than the Spyder and its only a 2 cylinder
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Jack,
Aren't you the fella who has Twin Turbos on his pickup truck??
The answer to your question would seem to be: "Why not?"
Yea Bob but that is for pulling a ten thousand pound toy hauler trailer not for going fast. Maybe I'm getting
older but my RTL has plenty of "ZIP" the way it is. For some I guess there will never be enough horse
power or enough speed "till they reach the Peter Principal".
Jack
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@Jase
Does updating the ECU void manufacturer warranty?
Also, prior to reading this thread I was wondering if ECU setup/coding is a big part of the difference between the regular F3 and the F3-S? (the extra ~10 ponies)
I have a stock F3-S D500 (SE), and it's pretty snappy. However, I'd really love to have smoother shifting from 1'st to second. Sometimes it's a bit rough IMO. (Maybe that's completely normal.) Feathering the throttle does help, but not always. (So I'm not so sure it's the right way to do things.*)
Note: Have owned quite a few sport bikes in the past. This is the first "paddle shift" machine I've ever owned/driven.
~Bob
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Originally Posted by TRLBLZR1
@Jase
Does updating the ECU void manufacturer warranty?
Also, prior to reading this thread I was wondering if ECU setup/coding is a big part of the difference between the regular F3 and the F3-S? (the extra ~10 ponies)
I have a stock F3-S D500 (SE), and it's pretty snappy. However, I'd really love to have smoother shifting from 1'st to second. Sometimes it's a bit rough IMO. (Maybe that's completely normal.) Feathering the throttle does help, but not always. (So I'm not so sure it's the right way to do things.*)
Note: Have owned quite a few sport bikes in the past. This is the first "paddle shift" machine I've ever owned/driven.
~Bob
Hi Bob
The warranty this is really up to your dealers discretion,
You have to remember that "ALL" manufactures dont want any of there products changed in any way.
This includes changing of tyres , or exhaust , changes , air filter changes , cat bypass the smallest of things can void your warranty unless bought from the manufacturer.
In saying this my tunes are virtually untraceable and having worked around brp dealerships for many years i do know they will never have the equipment to read the ecu.
The coding between all the models are similar (vary from software versions) but each bike has different every day running maps all the can ams are very restricted from factory so there is a great difference between a stock and modified map and this includes helping with gear changing.
Thanks
Jase
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Originally Posted by jaherbst
Why????
You're
asking why someone would want more torque or power?
Just hand in your man card at the door.
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in a way i have to agree with the above post of WHY. after all i was happy with the power of the 1330 for such a big wind catcher that it was, it moved pretty good. and god forbid the motor went sour, with the buds system report telling everything about the bike. and if for some reason it spits out that it was re-mapped, it might void the warranty on the motor
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
You're
asking why someone would want more torque or power?
Just hand in your man card at the door.
Doubting your "manhood" are you JC. More Torque and Horsepower are not the answer my friend. Still
trying to prove your manhood at this age is a sad waste of time.
Jack
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
You're
asking why someone would want more torque or power?
Just hand in your man card at the door.
Always be wary of those that threaten to take your man card. My sons took mine years ago when I bought a Hybrid car and an electric mower. When I asked how to get it back I was told that I cannot ask,it was all very vague.
After a few year ear I got an "official" man card, the rules are layer out quite clearly.
1 . You must burp your naame in front of other men, or,
2. You must build something with a power tool.
FYI, the hybrid car was gone in a year, what a bad idea, and the mower lasted a month.
Needless to say my wallet holds an official man card and my man cave / awesome garage, displays the certificate of authenticity. One other footnote, because of other reasons I had my testosterone checked. Normal levels are between 200 and 1,000, mine is over 850, not bad for a geezer.
Joe
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HD have more torque NOW, but pre 107s did not.
AJ
Originally Posted by trikermutha
Torque is a good thing IMO. A little more couldn't hurt anything as long as you don't go crazy with all kinds of other mods. Hell the Harleys have more Torgue than the Spyder and its only a 2 cylinder
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Originally Posted by trikermutha
Torque is a good thing IMO. A little more couldn't hurt anything as long as you don't go crazy with all kinds of other mods. Hell the Harleys have more Torgue than the Spyder and its only a 2 cylinder
"only a 2 cylinder" is one of the reasons it has more torque. Engines with fewer (yet larger) cylinders and longer strokes tend to have more TQ than shorter stroke multi-cyl engines. Don't forget, we are only 1330 cc. We have more hp than a H-D, but require much higher rpm to achieve that power. Personally, I prefer the higher TQ in the lower rpm range that I use most. (how often are you at >6000 rpm where your HP resides?)
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