DESS Key code again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Peter Aawen]

This is what I'm talking about. I don't believe that is the antenna.

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That round ring thing with the cable looped thru it that's then zip-tied to the module is an after market Ferrite Choke that's been added/installed after the Spyder's left the factory by someone, probably after they'd experienced a few DESS issues, in an effort to try to stop any spurious signals over-riding & swamping the DESS signal between the antenna & the DESS Module; or maybe it was done in an effort to lessen the chances of the antenna itself being swamped by a stronger signal &/or to iron out any possible spikes in the signal..... : Doing this Ferrite Choke thing was one of the earlier BRP suggestions/attempts at fixing the DESS problem, altho it' since been revealed that doing this didn't seem to work too well &/or at all for many tho!!

It seems the only 'solutions' to the DESS stopping you starting your Spyder randomly that might be available atm are for you to replace the various Modules as & when they fail or as DESS problems become too much of a bother, but be aware that if you do that, you're only ever gonna be replacing the original dud items with exactly the same items that are still very likely going to experience this failure again/eventually; or you can see if you can find someone to Disable the DESS & then never worry about it again!

[GearHd]

That round ring thing with the cable looped thru it that's then zip-tied to the module is an after market Ferrite Choke that's been added/installed after the Spyder's left the factory by someone, probably after they'd experienced a few DESS issues, in an effort to try to stop any spurious signals over-riding & swamping the DESS signal between the antenna & the DESS Module; or maybe it was done in an effort to lessen the chances of the antenna itself being swamped by a stronger signal &/or to iron out any possible spikes in the signal..... : Doing this Ferrite Choke thing was one of the earlier BRP suggestions/attempts at fixing the DESS problem, altho it' since been revealed that doing this didn't seem to work too well &/or at all for many tho!!

It seems the only 'solutions' to the DESS stopping you starting your Spyder randomly that might be available atm are for you to replace the various Modules as & when they fail or as DESS problems become too much of a bother, but be aware that if you do that, you're only ever gonna be replacing the original dud items with exactly the same items that are still very likely going to experience this failure again/eventually; or you can see if you can find someone to Disable the DESS & then never worry about it again!

Thanks for the info. Funny thing is, we bought this Spyder brand new. It had been back to the dealer a few times for some warranty work but none of it was ever for a DESS issue. We just recently had the DESS issue, that's why I changed the module to the latest part number.

[PMK]

Thanks for the info. Funny thing is, we bought this Spyder brand new. It had been back to the dealer a few times for some warranty work but none of it was ever for a DESS issue. We just recently had the DESS issue, that's why I changed the module to the latest part number.

Some DESS modules came equipped with Ferrite Chokes to lessen induced interference from electrical concerns into the system.

Realize that when DESS issues first appeared, the errors were initially scoffed at by dealers and the Mother Ship to the (we have never seen that before). Then as issues became more widespread, owners were told that Key Fobs from other vehicles (cars, trucks) nearby to the Spyder during start was causing the faults. Then overhead powerlines, cell phones, and no doubt Alien UFOs, Heart Pacemakers, you Apple Watch, Cousin Eddies metal plate and more.

After several variations of different “dash numbers” of the modules, the latest became the “916” which remains today with the 2022 models. However, the actions prescribed by the warranty department ranged from simple module changes, to antenna changes, and even complete replacement of the key switch, antenna, module, keys and reprogramming.

Ultimately though, and not able to be accomplished by dealers, for best reliability, having the DESS disabled is the best fix. However it does eliminate the anti theft feature of a correctly working DESS.

The consumer public will never know exactly how widespread DESS failures are. Only a small percentage of Spyder owners are on Spyderlovers. Similar to the failing front sprockets and NHTSA recall, dealers indicate the number of failed sprockets is very few. While the true number may never be known.